When we get healthy: Ideal Lineup

gswhoop · Post #1 » by **gswhoop** » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:55 pm

Starters: Go bigger, this mixed group of bigger, playmakers, and shooters should have some firepower that will keep the defenses honest and have to guard all levels.
Curry: Shooter
Butler: Playmaker
JK: Cutter
Dray: Playmaker
Post: Shooter

Bench: Let Podz run the show and let hield and moody tee off. Loon can grab boards and TJD should play an active 15 of pure effort.
Podz
Hield
Moody
Loon
TJD

TB · Post #2 » by TB » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:46 am

I'd go with basically the opposite approach to that :dontknow:

- Go smaller overall. This doesn't mean all guard lineups.
- Dray almost exclusively at center, with the rest of center minutes going to Loon with Post as a stretch big for a few minutes when needed.
- Podz always as a connector next to a playmaker like Steph or Jimmy and can even put him with Spencer for a few minutes.

Starting and closing with: Steph, ______ , _______ , Jimmy, Dray

Left the 2 and 3 blank because a ton of combos could work depending on the game. I'd probably prefer Podz/Moody to start but I also see use cases for GP2 or Buddy or Kuminga to get in there. And closing we can do a lot of offense/defense subs. Just get to a minutes breakdown something like:

Steph - 30
Jimmy - 30
Dray - 28
Podz - 28
Kuminga - 28
Moody - 26
Buddy - 22
Loon - 18
GP2 - 18
Post - 6
Spencer - 6

I'd add that GP2/Loon are players that could have fluctuating minutes based on matchups. Some games GP2 may not be needed, and then some games (like yesterday against Mavs) he should get extended minutes to mirror sub patterns of a guy like Kyrie or Shai or Ja etc.

gswhoop · Post #3 » by **gswhoop** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:58 am

totally forgot GP2 but yeah definitely need to matchup with must win games but ideal daily lineups, I think our small ball lineup has lost it's intimidation and teams are just out hustling us on defense.

DonaldSanders · Post #4 » by **DonaldSanders** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:01 am

gswhoop wrote:totally forgot GP2 but yeah definitely need to matchup with must win games but ideal daily lineups, I think our small ball lineup has lost it's intimidation and teams are just out hustling us on defense.

Post minutes have generally been a disaster though. Team-worst -9.3/per 100 on-court. I like developing him but I can't see him as a starter or closer -- he can come off the bench for short spurts.

Data I've seen is that going small is actually our best bet -- we just tend not to start small and then play catch up the rest of games. Tonight's small ball starters vs. the Rockets are a nice unit, I'll be interested to see if they can start strong/close.

EvanZ · Post #5 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:39 am

I’m hoping our best lineup is:

Steph
Moses
Butler
JK
Draymond

GQ Hot Dog · Post #6 » by **GQ Hot Dog** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:50 am

EvanZ wrote:I’m hoping our best lineup is:

Steph
Moses
Butler
JK
Draymond

This would be great. However, I wonder who's guarding Kyrie and the other uber quick guards in the league?

EvanZ · Post #7 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:47 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I’m hoping our best lineup is:

Steph
Moses
Butler
JK
Draymond

This would be great. However, I wonder who's guarding Kyrie and the other uber quick guards in the league?

We can’t solve every lineup problem. If we could we wouldn’t be fighting for 10th right now.

GQ Hot Dog · Post #8 » by **GQ Hot Dog** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:50 am

EvanZ wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I’m hoping our best lineup is:

Steph
Moses
Butler
JK
Draymond

This would be great. However, I wonder who's guarding Kyrie and the other uber quick guards in the league?

We can’t solve every lineup problem. If we could we wouldn’t be fighting for 10th right now.

I'm a little skeptical, but maybe Kuminga can settle in to that role? It's a little bit like why you don't see many thick CBs in football. It's tough to quickly flip those big hips and shoulders no matter how athletic one is.

cpower · Post #9 » by **cpower** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:31 am

does not matter what you want, Kerr will play Santos and Spencer lol

GQ Hot Dog · Post #10 » by **GQ Hot Dog** » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:35 am

cpower wrote:does not matter what you want, Kerr will play Santos and Spencer lol

Love those guys. Well, love Santos. Spencer hasn't earned my love yet.

Onus · Post #11 » by **Onus** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:16 pm

Steve saying he wants this to be our starting lineup for the rest of the season.

Curry/podz/moody/butler/dray

Jk/buddy/gp2/looney/post/gui off the bench

Big J · Post #12 » by **Big J** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:12 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:This would be great. However, I wonder who's guarding Kyrie and the other uber quick guards in the league?

We can’t solve every lineup problem. If we could we wouldn’t be fighting for 10th right now.

I'm a little skeptical, but maybe Kuminga can settle in to that role? It's a little bit like why you don't see many thick CBs in football. It's tough to quickly flip those big hips and shoulders no matter how athletic one is.

Wiggins was decent guarding quick guards, JK theoretically should be as well.

statsman · Post #13 » by **statsman** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:21 am

So many hoping that JK will step up his game. Not his iso-ball game, but his team offense and team defense. Good luck with that.

Onus · Post #14 » by **Onus** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:27 pm

I really wonder how we matchup against the lakers moving forward.

Jimmy on Bron or Luka. Moody on the other? Does anyone like that matchup for us? Podz on Austin. Curry on rui. Dray on Hayes.

dk1115 · Post #15 » by **dk1115** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:05 am

Why isn't TJD playing? Haven't had a chance to tune in for a couple weeks already

vvoland · Post #16 » by **vvoland** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:13 am

dk1115 wrote:Why isn't TJD playing? Haven't had a chance to tune in for a couple weeks already

He's a bad fit with this roster, despite what his individual numbers might indicate