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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#441 » by powerball1373 » Sun May 4, 2025 4:47 am

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kuly1990 wrote:This is not Kerr loss, Curry with bad game, Butler with good , role players missing shoots

Unfortunately that description applies to A LOT of their games. Unless Steph summons one of his miraculous games tomorrow, they're headed for the exit. I wouldn't hold out much hope for them against Minnesota either at this point, but at least starting fresh with different matchups creates opportunities to turn it around. But it's hard to see advancing without a great — not just mediocre or good — game from Steph, and a few other guys chipping in instead of being total zeroes out there.


This particular team was always dependent on Steph being at the peak of his powers. It doesn't work with even an average game from him. That's how it goes, and he knows it too.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#442 » by powerball1373 » Sun May 4, 2025 4:49 am

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DAWill1128 wrote:They always needed something out of the Kuminga spot, he had to be rolling and contributing to contend. Pulling him lowered the ceiling.

I thought they should've traded Kuminga in 2023 for Anunoby, even if they needed to include picks. The window was/is small. They got nothing in terms of playoff production from a #2 and #7 pick. They held on to long. Any trade, literally any trade for a rotatiom player and they probably end up in the WCF.


Why can't Kerr play Jimmy at two guard? Kerr says that Kuminga doesn't fit because of Jimmy....Kerr...MAKE IT WORK!

Curry, Jimmy, Moody, Kuminga (or Post), Draymond


Lol this lineup is how you end up with wide open Draymond 3's over and over and over and over and over again :lol:
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#443 » by powerball1373 » Sun May 4, 2025 4:56 am

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Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Kerr needs to stop worrying about adjust lineups to defend the rockets, and just focus on scoring the ball and trusting your guys to play some d

and why the hell was Moody the one with the ball so much, giving it to Jimmy with 5 seconds left. Saw it like 4 times

Yes - I can't remember a game where nearly every shot seemed to be in the last 3 or 4 seconds. Just a mess.

Hopefully the Dubs make some adjustments offensively and bring a different game on Sunday. But if their shooting stays bad, it's over.


This is all it comes down to. The Warriors were getting WIDE open 3's and missing everything. Jimmy took a mediocre Heat team to the Finals because guys like Gabe Vincent, Max Strus, and Caleb Martin were hitting shots.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#444 » by Onus » Sun May 4, 2025 12:15 pm

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Twinkie defense wrote:I thought Rockets played pretty well, played with poise. Tough to beat. Haven't really found a solution for Steven Adams and who would have thought he would be a key piece going in?

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It might take a time machine.

I am really curious to see how the vets play tomorrow. They all need to play with more force for them to have a chance.

Someone needs to put out the Steph signal. It’s our only chance.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#445 » by Jax_23 » Sun May 4, 2025 6:49 pm

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Jax_23 wrote:Keepers

Curry
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Draymond
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F everyone else. The Mid All Stars. Seriously. Trade 'em all in the offseason. I'm not sold on anyone else. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. And you're on the verge of blowing a 3-1 lead again.

LOW CEILING PLAYERS


Ironically enough the one with highest ceiling - Kuminga - got zero minutes

Trade for tested and proven players in the offseason.

Mostly agree but as far as I'm concerned Draymond can go too. Yeah he has a few impressive defensive plays a game but he doesn't do enough else anymore to justify starter minutes or $25M per year. Jimmy already overlaps in the playmaker department. Draymond has more turnovers than assists in this series.


The difference is Draymond is a 4 time champion proven player and the others (BP, Moody, bench players) aren't. It's 5v5, I'd like to see this team with 2 more actual starters alongside Curry Jimmy and Draymond who have skillsets that actually fit with them -- and then see how Draymond performs alongside those players. You see different performances based on how the 5 are gelling. Like why do we need BP starting with 3 players who can run the offense? He should be a 2nd unit ball handler at most. The problem is he has a few games and people start overrating him and thinking he's on a different level than he actually is.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#446 » by wco81 » Sun May 4, 2025 7:30 pm

They don't even make the playoffs without Draymond.

Yeah we're seeing the limits of his effectiveness as a small-ball 5.

He struggled against Adams in that OKC series.

Game 6 Klay saved them and then I think Curry went off in game 7, completing the comeback from 1-3.

That was the year the NBA fixed it to extend the series in favor of Lebron by suspending Draymond, who was key in getting the team up 3-1.

In any event, it's going to be which role players shoot better. FVV isn't a star but he's shooting like one the last 3 games, even though he was a low efficiency chucker during the regular season.

Jabari is also shooting it well. Well he was picked top 3 and is suppose to be a great shooter, maybe finally coming into his own.

What hurts is Eason shot well and Brooks has shot well too.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#447 » by whatisacenter » Sun May 4, 2025 10:12 pm

wco81 wrote:They don't even make the playoffs without Draymond.


Maybe if you don't replace his spot on the roster or spend similar salary....Aaron Gordon makes less and I think this team is better with him than Draymond.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#448 » by wco81 » Mon May 5, 2025 5:08 am

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wco81 wrote:They don't even make the playoffs without Draymond.


Maybe if you don't replace his spot on the roster or spend similar salary....Aaron Gordon makes less and I think this team is better with him than Draymond.



Gordon just got a big extension, way more than Dray now.

He can guard 1-4 but haven’t seen him have much impact as small ball 5.

He can finish and maybe shoot better but not a playmaker at all.
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#449 » by cpower » Mon May 5, 2025 5:14 am

Draymond has a tough offensive series but he basically taken Senguin out of the series on his own - scores 20 pts on 50%TS as a center! Draymond is here to stay as long as you want to have elite defense in playoffs. You can trade him away if you want to never play in the post season again
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#450 » by cpower » Mon May 5, 2025 5:18 am

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wco81 wrote:They don't even make the playoffs without Draymond.


Maybe if you don't replace his spot on the roster or spend similar salary....Aaron Gordon makes less and I think this team is better with him than Draymond.

Gordon is a better offensive player (minus playmaking) but he has like 1/3 of impact on defense. They you will have a Gordon Looney Butler Curry Hield lineup which isn't really great in playoffs
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#451 » by Jester_ » Mon May 5, 2025 2:11 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
wco81 wrote:They don't even make the playoffs without Draymond.


Maybe if you don't replace his spot on the roster or spend similar salary....Aaron Gordon makes less and I think this team is better with him than Draymond.


wild take after this series
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Re: Warriors vs Rockets - Game 6 

Post#452 » by whatisacenter » Mon May 5, 2025 3:42 pm

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wco81 wrote:They don't even make the playoffs without Draymond.


Maybe if you don't replace his spot on the roster or spend similar salary....Aaron Gordon makes less and I think this team is better with him than Draymond.


wild take after this series


Not wild to me.

Draymond had a good game 7 but was awful in a few games as well.
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