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Kuminga is a Future Star if he realizes how good he can be

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Post#21 » by Jax_23 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:28 am

DonaldSanders wrote:Great game but since his main go to is superior athleticism, we need to see how he holds up against bigger more elite defenders. Still, I have seen some growth in him, such as drives where he has more changes of speed making him less predictable. More glass usage, and a bit more active around the rim for rebounds or shot contests.

He's the ultimate mystery box player -- maybe there is an all-star inside, but maybe he'll just excel against certain types of players/teams. Obviously praying for a breakout, but can't get too high or low off of one game.


Exactly. I'm not saying he "definitely will reach his ceiling," I'm saying for him to have a chance at being a really good player, he's going to have to shift his mentality and keep improving his bball iq - which is all part of the natural trajectory of developing as a hooper - for the ones who are committed to it. The talent is definitely there though. This is where maybe Kerr might be the problem. You have to let him play through some mistakes.
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Post#22 » by Sandy333 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:36 am

We donot want to see anything more. As suggested earlier, he is useless against taller players and defensive centers. Ship him out at the earliest. He is only one with any value, rest of the squad is rejects and people who nobody coveted.
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Post#23 » by CDM_Stats » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:52 am

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CDM_Stats wrote:All of this would be a nightmare

He can be a proficient slasher who can occasionally hit set-foot 3pt shots. The idea that he needs to be more aggressive all the time is exactly why he's a liability now. Its getting to the point where even when he has a good game, it's brutal because the wild claims come out of the woodwork

He should be a nice team player. Like defending and rebounding. That is what he needs to focus on if he wants to be a winner. That's what fans of the team should be hoping for. Not hoping that a guy who's TS is well below league average needs to take over more because he's got the Rockets' number


You're misinterpreting what I said. His MENTALITY needs to be what I said. He is the type of raw talent that should be Unleashed, not molded into a "nice team player." This is something that needs to happen internally for him, not from the coach and not from the team. Yes, learning the team game is part of the process, but I'm talking about him and his own mindset. Having the confidence to know he can dominate. It's a realization process and it doesn't happen overnight. I think he's the type of of player "when the light turns on and things just start to click" he'll be dangerous and explosive scorer. Call it confidence, call it growth, but this is something where if he can believe in himself and his talent and his potential, while also continuing to develop (he's only 22 ffs), he can become an all star etc.

/tony robbins speech


Ok that actually does sound better, but he still needs to work a lot on being a team player, building a solid floor for himself. And then it becomes much easier to have that attacking mentality, because he'll be on the floor a lot more. If he's aiming just to be an offensive star, the odds are way more likely he's a Monta instead of a Steph. What he really needs to do is be the inverse of Wiggins - a solid enough threat offensively (with some big games), and bringing a high floor on offense every night. He'll need to make solid steps on both ends to reach that, but its not impossible. And when he gets there, and earns a solid 25+ a night even he's not at the top of his game, then he can really go for it

Problem is though, the defensive side, the rebounding side.. it not only hasnt come around, its kinda flatlined for several years. If he cant board well, cant defend well, and is locked into being a 4 with his shooting.. it really limits what he can be on a winning team. Not as worried about his development as trying to win right now.. if he's more concerned with himself now, with stars Curry/Dray still on the team, I'd be very wary of retaining him beyond those years. Monta/Poole led teams are always going to be bad, JK still has a chance to be more of a 2 way guy who helps the team almost every night
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Post#24 » by superunknown » Sat Dec 7, 2024 6:46 am

t-r-a-d-e h-i-s a-s-s
together with podz's and TJD's.
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Post#25 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Dec 7, 2024 7:36 am

superunknown wrote:t-r-a-d-e h-i-s a-s-s
together with podz's and TJD's.



Unfortunately I think we saw the same situation as many other nights -- tough to see him ever excel vs. top tier rim protection. Lengthy teams have always bothered him, and tonight was what we're used to seeing vs. the higher end long teams with a good center. There are a bunch of them now.
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Post#26 » by superunknown » Sat Dec 7, 2024 9:05 am

DonaldSanders wrote:
superunknown wrote:t-r-a-d-e h-i-s a-s-s
together with podz's and TJD's.



Unfortunately I think we saw the same situation as many other nights -- tough to see him ever excel vs. top tier rim protection. Lengthy teams have always bothered him, and tonight was what we're used to seeing vs. the higher end long teams with a good center. There are a bunch of them now.


I agree with what you say, but on top of what you say to me is about fit.
perhaps kuminga, podz and even TJD will flourish somewhere else, right now them all 3 have no business being within this current configuration of the dubs. they are not the wing player, the backcourt player and the frontcourt player this team needs. so they must be moved, together with other asset (melton, moody? GPII? slomo?), to get in return some players that actually fit this team and give it a better chance to compete.
also, for kuminga, it's also about his contract status: personally won't give him even close to what he and his agent apparently are seeking, he hasn't shown enough to deserve that kind of extension, so there is no point in keeping him anyway.
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Post#27 » by East Bay Sports » Sat Dec 7, 2024 12:46 pm

Onus wrote:Based off this highlight 9/13 shots were on smaller guards (FVV, Reed, Green). He's able to just bully smaller guards.

And even then, only sometimes. Had chances tonight on Conley and Donte and came up with his dick in his hand.

Future star LMFAO. absolutely not.
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Post#28 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Dec 7, 2024 12:51 pm

East Bay Sports wrote:
Onus wrote:Based off this highlight 9/13 shots were on smaller guards (FVV, Reed, Green). He's able to just bully smaller guards.

And even then, only sometimes. Had chances tonight on Conley and Donte and came up with his dick in his hand.

Future star LMFAO. absolutely not.


He just has no counter to a rim protecting drop big, especially when he is struggling with the 3 ball.

You absolutely need to surround him with shooters and defenders or hope to play switching defenses without a big so he can mismatch hunt.

Kerr and the staff have to know this.
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Post#29 » by superunknown » Sat Dec 7, 2024 1:24 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
East Bay Sports wrote:
Onus wrote:Based off this highlight 9/13 shots were on smaller guards (FVV, Reed, Green). He's able to just bully smaller guards.

And even then, only sometimes. Had chances tonight on Conley and Donte and came up with his dick in his hand.

Future star LMFAO. absolutely not.


He just has no counter to a rim protecting drop big, especially when he is struggling with the 3 ball.

You absolutely need to surround him with shooters and defenders or hope to play switching defenses without a big so he can mismatch hunt.

Kerr and the staff have to know this.


it's so much easier to trade him then.
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Post#30 » by Jester_ » Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:59 pm

Jax_23 wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:All of this would be a nightmare

He can be a proficient slasher who can occasionally hit set-foot 3pt shots. The idea that he needs to be more aggressive all the time is exactly why he's a liability now. Its getting to the point where even when he has a good game, it's brutal because the wild claims come out of the woodwork

He should be a nice team player. Like defending and rebounding. That is what he needs to focus on if he wants to be a winner. That's what fans of the team should be hoping for. Not hoping that a guy who's TS is well below league average needs to take over more because he's got the Rockets' number


You're misinterpreting what I said. His MENTALITY needs to be what I said. He is the type of raw talent that should be Unleashed, not molded into a "nice team player." This is something that needs to happen internally for him, not from the coach and not from the team. Yes, learning the team game is part of the process, but I'm talking about him and his own mindset. Having the confidence to know he can dominate. It's a realization process and it doesn't happen overnight. I think he's the type of of player "when the light turns on and things just start to click" he'll be dangerous and explosive scorer. Call it confidence, call it growth, but this is something where if he can believe in himself and his talent and his potential, while also continuing to develop (he's only 22 ffs), he can become an all star etc.

/tony robbins speech


none of that matters if he can't defend or shoot. star wings like kawhi, jB, PG etc all significantly improved their shooting and were lockdown defenders. Kuminga hasn't improved his shooting or even arguably his defense since his rookie year.
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Post#31 » by Jax_23 » Tue May 13, 2025 3:42 am

Hopefully the way he's playing in the Twolves series becomes his new normal
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Post#32 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Tue May 13, 2025 3:54 am

Kuminga has star up but he has too stupid to play basketball downside.

if Kuminga could be only twice as stupid as the average NBA rookie, he would be a star.
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Post#33 » by Onus » Tue May 13, 2025 4:54 am

Should be put the bench in earlier to wear minny down.

Also if we need shooting post can play when ant is not in the game.
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Post#34 » by ILOVEIT » Tue May 13, 2025 5:35 am

Really? Are we going to go through this BS again?

Warriors and Kerr have had plenty of time to see what Kuminga can do. It's just the need to keep Draymond more relevant by running the Curry offense.

Think of Giannis trying to play within the constant movement offense. Kerr would bench the dude for not knowing where to be at all times :(
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Post#35 » by Jax_23 » Tue May 13, 2025 7:20 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Kuminga has star up but he has too stupid to play basketball downside.

if Kuminga could be only twice as stupid as the average NBA rookie, he would be a star.


I think he needs to get traded to the Hornets or Wizards or something, just a bad situation to be on a semi try to win now team like the Warriors. He needs like 1-2 years of unlimited leash to make all the mistakes he wants on a bad team but unlimited minutes.
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Post#36 » by DB23 » Tue May 13, 2025 3:26 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Really? Are we going to go through this BS again?

Warriors and Kerr have had plenty of time to see what Kuminga can do. It's just the need to keep Draymond more relevant by running the Curry offense.

Think of Giannis trying to play within the constant movement offense. Kerr would bench the dude for not knowing where to be at all times :(


I know it’s hyperbole but you are missing the obvious. Giannis has never looked as bad as kuminga on a basketball court

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