EvanZ wrote:vvoland wrote:EvanZ wrote:I'd rather get Keon Ellis tbh.
Rather than monk?
I think trading jk for monk is a sell low move but why Keon? We already had an amazing defense post Jimmy trade, but had real trouble scoring and creating in one v one situations. Monk seems like a good fit next to steph, lead the 2nd unit, and close games when the situation calls for it. In a vacuum, Keon is a good player on a good contract.
For this roster, I don't think he makes a huge impact despite instantly becoming our best guard defender.
So he instantly becomes our best POA defender and easily 3rd best 3pt shooter. He shot over 40% the last two seasons. Yeah, we definitely don't need that.
Meanwhile Malik Monk shot 32.5% on 3s last season. Gross. He' s a losing player with a sub-zero DARKO for his career. Meanwhile Keon Ellis is younger and his DARKO has just gotten progressively better year after year. He's so obviously a better player and value proposition. That's why the Kings would love to offload Monk and will protect Keon.
Come on, I didn't say "we definitely don't need that"...
Over 40% the last two seasons? Seriously? I guess i was less familiar with his game than I thought. The shot always looked slow and funky to me, but can't really argue with 40%. 500 total attempts over two seasons (~140 games) isn't a ton of volume but it's enough to make me rethink the take. Considering his contract is 15M less than Monk's and would allow us another move, I'll agree he's a better value than Monk. I didn't realize he shot that well and made so little $$.
That said, I do think we need more ball-handling and creation than ellis can bring while I do think he's a bit duplicative of moody. I would easily trade moody to the kings for ellis and throw in a future protected first to get it done. He's an expiring and with his salary so low, it'll be tough to retain him so I doubt the cost is super high. I'm sure they'd want to extend but with his current salary, they can't give him much before free agency. Still, I think Monk would help a ton. We need another lead guard, someone to handle the ball, take tough shots, beat defenders 1v1, etc. Essentially be what the FO thinks Podz is, already.
You also put a ton of stock in DARKO and other advanced metrics. I have far less patience for things that try to do a 'catch-all' rating as opposed to far more specific tracking/metrics.
How about Moody, Podz, and filler for Monk and Ellis? I'm sure we can come up with 21M without touching JK or Dray. All of a sudden, we'd have Steph, Ellis, Jimmy, JK, Dray, Monk, Post and buddy as the top 8. That's a lot of shooting and way more shot creation than we're used to. Sign Horford and a backup pg, and we're off to the races.
Last thing, you are a great poster with awesome data and good takes. It's just so much easier to foster constructive dialogue when you're less dismissive and just.. nicer.
