Baron 4 Marrion trade!

[Mylie10]

turk3d you make a good point. I think Marion might like the thought of playing in the Bay. I wonder if Miami would consider signing him and trading for Al, Pietrus and Whatever(2nd round pick, Cash)?
PG: Baron
SG: Ellis
SF: Jackson
PF: Marion
C: Biedrins
B: Wright
B: Azu
B: Randolph
B: Watson
B: Belli
B: Hendrix
B: Michael Jordan

I'd be all over that trade. 36 million to play with next year, wow!

[Coxy]

36 mill to play with next year? Read again pal. Miami to resign him then we trade for him so he's locked in 4 3-4-5 yrs.

[Mylie10]

So your positive Miami would want to lock Baron up for 3 4 or 5 years? Not likely.

dude you're all over the place. Oh that's right....school's out.

[turk3d]

He's thinkiing one year deals for both Marion and Baron. They are actually both signed but just for one more year with a clause which allows them to opt out and become FAs. Since they both have stated throught their agents that they intend to play the remaining year of their contracts (which are almost 18 Mil per) then they can be traded by their respective teams. No need to S & T. Since they are both one year deals, Mylie's right, we can choose not to re-sign them the following and have $36 Million in cap space to use as we will.

[Coxy]

What i said was if you read my earlier post. If Miami sign him to an extension then we entice them with Al, Pietrus, and whatever(picks + cash). I'm not sure how willing Miami would be on that 1 though. And are we really willing to let Baron walk without getting any value for him? So he plays out his contract and walks, then what? We sign, who? Baron will be gone this summer I reckon and i'm just trying to come up with a scenerio where we get quality for him.

[turk3d]

You need to understand that in today's NBA sometimes it's worth more to a team to have a guy expire. You can still S & T him (sometimes it is necessary for teams who want him because of their cap situation that it requires a S & T) and there's still nothing to prevent you from resigning him yourself (if you really want to). As a matter of fact, the player will be able to get his max contract from the team that he's leaving. What's worse is to have someone like Baron (or even Marion who's aging) signed to a long term deal for max money who gets seriously injured or whose skills start to erode in the middle of his contract and not be able to get rid of him. Worst case scenerio if they have only one year deals are sgined as FAs by some other team which has cap space is that you have all that money to go out and sign a Free Agent who may be better than the player who's leaving you, possibly for even less money. That's all we're trying to say.

[Coxy]

I do understand that genious but how happy is Baron going to be if he's disrepected this summer? You don't have to explain that to everyone dude so pull your head out of your crack. You think your a GM or something? Barons situation is obviously a sketchy one and he too is aging, as you say. I think Marion's body is going to hold up longer than Barons will that's for sure. If we don't resign Baron this summer we run the risk of losing him completely for nothing. Not a cosy thought.

[Mylie10]

I do understand that genious but how happy is Baron going to be if he's disrepected this summer? You don't have to explain that to everyone dude so pull your head out of your crack. You think your a GM or something? Barons situation is obviously a sketchy one and he too is aging, as you say. I think Marion's body is going to hold up longer than Barons will that's for sure. If we don't resign Baron this summer we run the risk of losing him completely for nothing. Not a cosy thought.

Baron has to play nice and play well. He's auditioning for his last big contract. What don't you understand?

Plus we don't lose him for nothing. We would have 18 mil from Baron's expiring to go after other talent.

Steve Nash
Elton Brand
Lamar Odom

to name a few. and some rookies

Chris Paul
Deron Williams

Now I doubt their teams wouldn't match, but you never know. We would at least be in the hunt for guys who could fill the void. for Baron's salary you could add 2 guys to fill out the roster.

I agree that it'd be nice to get what you could for Baron, but it has to be a fit. Baron's value at the trade deadline would be the greatest. Even if he's injured at that time, 17.8 million expiring is very attractive to certain teams. (see Memphis)

For a young whipper snapper you have fire in the belly, but jelly between the ears. I love the insults so keep em coming. This happens every summer.

[BROWN]

I'm with LF when he says I want our young Forwards to have the minutes, and not a
money seeking Marion, who's probably only going to be playing this season for a lucrative deal in the summer.

[Flix360]

marion for baron is deal for miami

but isnt for gs,we may add dorell wright dunno if seals it tho

[Twinkie defense]

It would be a great test for Monta the PG to trade Baron for Marion.

[m23uza1hem36]

Miami just got their PG...

[GSWhoopfan]

you cant trade a point guard and not have a real backup plan. Monta playing the pg is not a real plan. Monta not scoring is bad news for the Warriors.

replacing Baron Davis is going to be the hardest thing for this franchise. there arent too many good pgs in the league. replacing the pg spot is a difficult task.

[old rem]

Killacat, You start your reply with "like we need another pf". Firstly genius, Marrion is a sf and second;y you come up with a deal for a pf.??????????????? Try again pal and try to make some sense.

And i also think Mario Chalmers would be a good fit in the trade as well. Maybe we throw in cash or a second round pick to make the $ work

Trade
GS send Baron Davis + cash
Mia send Shawn Marrion + Mario Chalmers

umm check ur pages dude cuzz Marion is a lock to play Pf even center for us anybody ask anybody on earth and they'll tell u that

and by the way my trade also sends out a PF and then brings one in genious

Second of all Brand and Marion arnt even in the same catagory, so ur telling me ud rather have Marion over Brand?
Brand puts us up there with the top and Marion doesnt especially not without Baron
Brand is a tru post player that well put up 20/10 every night while Marion cant hit the ocean from the golden gate bridge, Id rather have Brand jacking up shots then Jackson and Marion

Brand just missed a full season with a major injury to his wheels. Brand,if he's lost some quicks,hops,or durability is not as good as Brand. Baron,Brand,Marion are all big $,all want some more,all have short deals now. We'd need to lock in an agreeable future to make a major change.

A Monta-Jax backcourt is not better. Monta is still becoming a PG and the PG role will slow him up a bit. Jax at SG won't have any speed advantage,and 2 "real forwards" will probably slow the frontcourt some--though we do add that needed rebounder. If the Heat added something to Marion,it could be interesting-but they don't happen to have that something. As for Brand,maybe in December after he's shown how recovered he is.

[turk3d]

you cant trade a point guard and not have a real backup plan. Monta playing the pg is not a real plan. Monta not scoring is bad news for the Warriors.

replacing Baron Davis is going to be the hardest thing for this franchise. there arent too many good pgs in the league. replacing the pg spot is a difficult task.

To add to what you just said, gswhoopfan it's absolutely guaranteed that Monta's scoring would drop (and likely his fg %) if he was moved strictly to pg as his focus would have to almost completely change (as he would be relied upon more to get the ball to his teammates rather than his own shot). Tos would probably also go up which he's had problems with in the past. Not a good idea if we we can avoid it for at least another season.