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What happens in the draft

Trade up
6
14%
Pick at 14
22
52%
Trade down for an extra pick
8
19%
Trade the pick for an established player
6
14%
 
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Post#881 » by GswStorm3 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:00 am

"offenses can't wait to see Love and Jefferson in the same place at the same time."

He's right about this though, horrible defensive pairing.
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Post#882 » by -bob- » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:09 am

once they trade Mike Miller for an expiring contract, which they can and probably will, the cap savings swing in Minny's favor. Jaric's contract is more per year and a year longer than Cardinals. And Jaric sucks. But taking his contract was the price MEM paid to move up to get Mayo.
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Post#883 » by Chris Cohan » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:28 am

Not even close. Good night.
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Post#884 » by TB » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:17 am

Can we agree that McHale and Wallace both suck?

On another note, the pro Ibaka camp takes the early lead over the anti Ibaka camp.

Sam Presti did alot of behind the scenes maneuvering to make sure Seattle got Serge. His credibility is enough for me.
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Post#885 » by old rem » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:36 am

Reggie Williams,and a similar guy Arizona (AZ) Reid are guys to look at. Reggie scored 27.8,was over 28 pt the previous year,9.7 reb,2.2 steals. AZ Reid 6-5 205 High Point,avg 23.9, 11 reb, shot 53.2%. Against Florida he was 22/9 3 steals. He had 3 games of 16 reb. Of course the level of competition and tempo are a factor....but I'd hate to just assume a "small school" guy can't cut it and he turns into a starter someplace else.

Kyle Hines,UNC Greensboro is 6-6 240....basically a Jason Maxiel. His FOUR year avg....18.2 pt,8.7 reb,2.9 blocks,1.5 stels, 58.4 FG %. Note the blocks,he's been top 10 a couple of seasons. Quite consistant and this year vs GaTech...25 pt,9 reb,2 blocks and they beat Ga Tech.

Leon Williams, Ohio U 6-8 245. 16.4 per,9.8 reb,61% fg sounds rather similar to Hendrix.

Jaycee Carroll Utah St not big,about 6.2 but hustled for 6 rbd per....mostly Jaycee is a pure shooter. His fg% was over 50% though he's mainly a perimeter guy...and he shot a LOT of 3's while making almost half of them. He was a remarkable 3 guy last year too. Probably we have enough 3 shooters that a small SG who's a specialist is a luxury.

Aleks Maric, 6-10 270 Nebraska 15.7 pt,10.2 reb,1.7 blocks. Not quick enough to thrill the scouts but
That's pretty solid numbers in the Big 12...obviously far better than DeAndre Jordan.

Summer, I'd at least want a look at any "freebee" who might stick as an NBA player..even if the guy might not seem to fit our needs. We might make a trade and have an opening and one of these guys might turn into something good.
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Post#886 » by old rem » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:15 am

Night Angel 1 wrote:"offenses can't wait to see Love and Jefferson in the same place at the same time."

He's right about this though, horrible defensive pairing.


This isn't Curry,Randolph. These guys are young and seem to try. We may have our own odd defensive pair in Wright-Randolph who these heavies can shove around a lot.

This deal is strong for the Wolves. Love and Miller step right in at the F spots and Brewer gets to move to SG where he matches up better. I expect Love - Miller to be quite solid from the start. Mayo will be fine for the Griz but their lineup is still somewhat green. While Darko has a few years now...he does not play like a veteran. Mayo..Conley....one year of college each and Conley has a pro season. Minny will have inside scoring plus perimeter shooters. The Griz will be more midrange or slash/drive. The Wolves opened a pretty good gap in the race to not be worst of the West
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Post#887 » by -bob- » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:46 am

here's your guy Reggie Williams, old rem.

lots of other teams are after him though.

Williams has received Summer League offers from Charlotte, Sacramento, Dallas, the Atlanta Hawks, Orlando Magic, New Jersey Nets, Golden State Warriors and Los Angeles Clippers, his agent Jerry Dianis said yesterday.

http://fredericksburg.com//News/FLS/200 ... 008/391090
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Post#888 » by Hopper15 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:04 pm

The Warriors have to be a pretty attractive place for undrafted rookies. We still have lots of roster space to fill.
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Post#889 » by FNQ » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:23 pm

TB wrote:Can we agree that McHale and Wallace both suck?

On another note, the pro Ibaka camp takes the early lead over the anti Ibaka camp.

Sam Presti did alot of behind the scenes maneuvering to make sure Seattle got Serge. His credibility is enough for me.



Nah, Presti's an idiot... Serge's agent told all NBA teams to not draft him in the 1st. Presti did anyways...

It will now take a perfect storm to get Serge into the NBA as a good player now... if he does well in Europe, they will pay him a lot better than he would get at the NBA level (locked in to the #24 pick pay scale when he comes over)... if he flames out and decides not to improve himself, he might come over in hopes of being a late bloomer, but that would seem unlikely... the Sonics really :censored: up by taking Ibaka in the 1st IMO.

As for the Love / Jefferson comparison, I think the only reason teams will be excited to see them on defense is because neither is a C... Love can't defend the C position well, and nor can Jefferson. @ PF they are both about average post defenders (Love is better) and both are poor at help D.
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Post#890 » by FNQ » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:25 pm

510Reggae wrote:David Lee for Raymond Felton trade may be going down.


Its official: RealGM steals their headlines from me and my only source :nod:

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Post#891 » by GswStorm3 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:44 am

old rem wrote:
Night Angel 1 wrote:"offenses can't wait to see Love and Jefferson in the same place at the same time."

He's right about this though, horrible defensive pairing.


This isn't Curry,Randolph. These guys are young and seem to try. We may have our own odd defensive pair in Wright-Randolph who these heavies can shove around a lot.


But atleast our guys our shotblockers Rem and they'll have Andris to help them out defensively. You can't really say the same for Love and Jefferson.
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Post#892 » by floppymoose » Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:01 pm

old rem wrote:
Night Angel 1 wrote:He's right about this though, horrible defensive pairing.


This isn't Curry,Randolph. These guys are young and seem to try.


Mike and Troy were young and seemed to try.
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Post#893 » by old rem » Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:25 am

-bob- wrote:here's your guy Reggie Williams, old rem.

lots of other teams are after him though.

Williams has received Summer League offers from Charlotte, Sacramento, Dallas, the Atlanta Hawks, Orlando Magic, New Jersey Nets, Golden State Warriors and Los Angeles Clippers, his agent Jerry Dianis said yesterday.

http://fredericksburg.com//News/FLS/200 ... 008/391090


I'd do a pre-emptive strike....sign him and go from there. We have a couple slots to pan for hidden nuggets. 8 teams seem to think he can make the cut....and odds are decent he can. He's from a very high tempo team and thrived in that. He's an athlete,he rebounds, he doesn't take games off.

Whatever falls in place as for summer auditions....most of the FA's are unsigned...auditioning...and you can put a contract on the table for player x even if he's on someone elses summer team. These players want a deal,asap. Teams meanwhile, don't want to play their hand a minute too soon.
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Post#894 » by old rem » Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:48 am

Night Angel 1 wrote:
old rem wrote:
Night Angel 1 wrote:"offenses can't wait to see Love and Jefferson in the same place at the same time."

He's right about this though, horrible defensive pairing.


This isn't Curry,Randolph. These guys are young and seem to try. We may have our own odd defensive pair in Wright-Randolph who these heavies can shove around a lot.


But atleast our guys our shotblockers Rem and they'll have Andris to help them out defensively. You can't really say the same for Love and Jefferson.


Very true. The Wolves made lemonade from what they could get. Heck....they ought to hunt down Lasme,use him as a shotblocking F. Hardly ever needs to shoot. Actually, Pietrus could help them too.
We have at times had opponents use their bulk to just wall Biedrins off so they have a lane to attack. Maybe later on Wright or Randolph can slip through for a block when that happens,maybe they get bulldozed out of the paint too easy. Some writeups on Randolph that were mostly positive tended to say he regularly gets backed down and manhandled easy in the paint,can't hold position and besides lack of bulk,lacks technique and confidence.

The Griz also got Miller. He gets to play his true SF role..and Brewer can play SG. Brewer is skinnier than Randolph but not 6-11,so his college talent for D got wasted,he will D on the perimeter but most NBA F's can overpower him inside.
Miller is a deadeye outside. Al Jeff is a force inside, Love can help both inside + outside while he and Jefferson rebound. The Wolves opened a nice gap between themselves and the Griz + Kings,might pass Seattle too and give us a battle.
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