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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#21 » by floppymoose » Wed Jul 2, 2008 6:55 am

RO, I've seen him play quite a bit. I watched a lot of Cats games last season. LP, just like you.

And despite being the occasional stathead, I have no idea what Felton's numbers are. I had thought they probably sucked given how poor Okafoyle was at converting Felton's passes. But maybe they are better than I imagined?

As for what others have missed.... mostly I just think he takes more abuse than he deserves. Note that I said he'd be a good backup. I'm not touting him as an allstar. His good points are: he's tough; he can get to a spot on the floor with the ball; he can take contact and score; and (imo) he's coachable. That's enough for me from a backup.

edit: oh, and he's decent at pushing the ball in transition
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#22 » by St.Nick » Wed Jul 2, 2008 10:30 am

I would be willing to do an Al and S-Jax deal for Felton and Wallace if Charlotte was in a win now mode. Their lineup looks like it would be a lock for the playoffs after this deal:

Augustin
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Okafor
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#23 » by is1531 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:27 pm

turk3d wrote:Al Harrington and Mickael Pietrus


Lol, You know Charlotte is not going with that deal,lol. Charlotte can make a good deal offering those players.
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#24 » by Clint Eastwood » Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:29 pm

bulls fan here. i have no idea what your opinion is of resigning biedrins, or what you value him at. i do think he is mishandled by nellie who never seems to like a true center.

would you consider hinrich and noah for him in a sign and trade?
or maybe gordon and noah?
or possibly thabo and noah?

you get a young cheap mobile defensive center in noah to replace him and get a guard to replace baron.

just a thought.
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#25 » by is1531 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:31 pm

ROWELL wrote:I throw up in my mouth just thinking about Wallace and Felton being our responsibility.
No OkaFoyle, please.


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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#26 » by is1531 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:33 pm

Clint Eastwood wrote:bulls fan here. i have no idea what your opinion is of resigning biedrins, or what you value him at. i do think he is mishandled by nellie who never seems to like a true center.

would you consider hinrich and noah for him in a sign and trade?
or maybe gordon and noah?
or possibly thabo and noah?

you get a young cheap mobile defensive center in noah to replace him and get a guard to replace baron.

just a thought.


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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#27 » by crzy » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:15 pm

Clint Eastwood wrote:bulls fan here. i have no idea what your opinion is of resigning biedrins, or what you value him at. i do think he is mishandled by nellie who never seems to like a true center.

would you consider hinrich and noah for him in a sign and trade?
or maybe gordon and noah?
or possibly thabo and noah?

you get a young cheap mobile defensive center in noah to replace him and get a guard to replace baron.

just a thought.


God no.

I'm not a fan of Kirk Hinrich, and Biedrins is better than Noah.
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#28 » by floppymoose » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:59 pm

Clint, pretty much everyone here is committed to a Biedrins/Monta future. It would take an "instant contention" type of trade (like the KG one) to pry either away.
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#29 » by turk3d » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:08 pm

is1531 wrote:
turk3d wrote:Al Harrington and Mickael Pietrus


Lol, You know Charlotte is not going with that deal,lol. Charlotte can make a good deal offering those players.

Now after looking at Wallace's contract, I don't think Golden State would do it either. lol to you too.
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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#30 » by Chris Cohan » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:33 pm

floppymoose wrote:RO, I've seen him play quite a bit. I watched a lot of Cats games last season. LP, just like you.

And despite being the occasional stathead, I have no idea what Felton's numbers are. I had thought they probably sucked given how poor Okafoyle was at converting Felton's passes. But maybe they are better than I imagined?

As for what others have missed.... mostly I just think he takes more abuse than he deserves. Note that I said he'd be a good backup. I'm not touting him as an allstar. His good points are: he's tough; he can get to a spot on the floor with the ball; he can take contact and score; and (imo) he's coachable. That's enough for me from a backup.

edit: oh, and he's decent at pushing the ball in transition


He has some points and assists numbers. I think that's where you're coming from. His defense sucks, he's a "head-down" dribbler who shoots an awful lot (at pathetic percentages) for a point guard, his court vision is, in fact, terrible, and he has a contract coming due and his agent is Bill Duffy. So if you're on the "Warriors are lowballing players" warpath after the Davis flight, you ought to expect Biedrins to depart and Duffy to avoid the Warriors. Right?

Having said all of that, Felton seems like a Nelson player.

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Re: Raymond Felton and Wallace to Warriors? 

Post#31 » by Apres Moi » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:50 pm

St.Nick wrote:I would be willing to do an Al and S-Jax deal for Felton and Wallace if Charlotte was in a win now mode. Their lineup looks like it would be a lock for the playoffs after this deal:

Augustin
JRich
SJax
Harrington
Okafor



Al and Jack are worth more than Felton and Wallace. Not saying that Felton and Wallace aren't worth something good.

Wallace is injury prone and has put up good numbers on a bad team, felton is a back-up. Jack and Harrington are both generally injury free, starters on most teams, and Jack is a legitimate team captain type leader.
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