TPE Trade Target Watch

[cdubbz]

There’s no way Suns want to part ways with Oubre right? I can’t see a reason.

[TB]

There’s no way Suns want to part ways with Oubre right? I can’t see a reason.

They definitely want him on the team. But he’s going to want to get paid after this season, and they just drafted Bridges in same position... it’s possible if they are being cheap they would want to grab an asset for him before losing him next offseason.

I’d offer our 2021 top 10 protected for him. Or maybe even a pick swap this year if we think we can still get our guy at 10.

Mentioned it in the draft thread, but that’s my dream. Oubre for our tpe and 2021 1st. Then this years 1st and looney for pistons 1st and Kennard. Wing depth solved.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

My two cents is using our full $17 mil TPE + Cash Considerations + 2020 1st Round Pick + Kevon Looney for Myles Turner.

Starting 5:

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Turner

What's not to like about this starting 5? You'd have maybe 4 (If Wiggins comes around to it) guys who can play defense, willing passers, and adequate scoring and shooting from mostly everyone. I'd do that trade now. Pacers' owner isn't a big spender and doesn't like to keep his players who are making a ton (Signed extension with both Sabonis and Turner, but they can't play on the floor together).

Make this happen, somehow, Mr. Myers..please?..

[xdrta+]

My two cents is using our full $17 mil TPE + Cash Considerations + 2020 1st Round Pick + Kevon Looney for Myles Turner.

Starting 5:

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Turner

What's not to like about this starting 5? You'd have maybe 4 (If Wiggins comes around to it) guys who can play defense, willing passers, and adequate scoring and shooting from mostly everyone. I'd do that trade now. Pacers' owner isn't a big spender and doesn't like to keep his players who are making a ton (Signed extension with both Sabonis and Turner, but they can't play on the floor together).

Make this happen, somehow, Mr. Myers..please?..

Turner makes too much. You can't combine the trade exception with money or players to get a higher priced player. The TE is $17, 285,185 and Turner makes $18M.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

My two cents is using our full $17 mil TPE + Cash Considerations + 2020 1st Round Pick + Kevon Looney for Myles Turner.

Starting 5:

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Turner

What's not to like about this starting 5? You'd have maybe 4 (If Wiggins comes around to it) guys who can play defense, willing passers, and adequate scoring and shooting from mostly everyone. I'd do that trade now. Pacers' owner isn't a big spender and doesn't like to keep his players who are making a ton (Signed extension with both Sabonis and Turner, but they can't play on the floor together).

Make this happen, somehow, Mr. Myers..please?..

Turner makes too much. You can't combine the trade exception with money or players to get a higher priced player. The TE is $17, 285,185 and Turner makes $18M.

Ah, this could have been a done deal then. Ah, well. Seems like this TPE is looking to be useless for players that we need.

[TB]

TPE could still be used to get to that trade scenario. Would just have to trade the TPE for someone in the 10-15m range, then flip that player with the pick/looney for Turner.

While i'd love to have Turner, I think the assumption that Pacers want Turner outta there is incorrect. Sure his numbers went down playing next to Sabonis, but thats because of the system. Sabonis is their roll man while Turner is now their spacing big, shooting as many 3s as 2s. On defense, they also work great together because Turner can go for every block while Sabonis cleans the glass.

The Pacers starting lineup (even without Dipo healthy) was the 13th best net rating out of all NBA lineups over 200 minutes players, so they absolutely can and should play together. Plus their main core are all on pretty decent contracts.

[donkeylips]

With talks about the salary cap decreasing, I’m scared Myers is not going to use the tpe

[xdrta+]

With talks about the salary cap decreasing, I’m scared Myers is not going to use the tpe

The trade exception has nothing to do with the cap. No matter where the cap ends up, the Warrors will be above it. The exception is just that--an exception to the cap allowing them to use $17M they otherwise couldn't.

[Zvaart]

I saw that the cap is expected to decrease with 30 million. if the league won't find a way to balance it somehow, i don't think anybody wants to pay THAT much in luxury tax. So our TPE might be as good as gone.

[xdrta+]

I saw that the cap is expected to decrease with 30 million. if the league won't find a way to balance it somehow, i don't think anybody wants to pay THAT much in luxury tax. So our TPE might be as good as gone.

Or, it might be more valuable, as other teams look to dump salary. That's the only way to use it, find a player that a team wants to get out from a contract.

[marthafokker]

I saw that the cap is expected to decrease with 30 million. if the league won't find a way to balance it somehow, i don't think anybody wants to pay THAT much in luxury tax. So our TPE might be as good as gone.

Or, it might be more valuable, as other teams look to dump salary. That's the only way to use it, find a player that a team wants to get out from a contract.

But will ownership want to pay a player, for say 15+ mil dollar. And then have to also pay $100 mil more in luxury tax for adding this player. Is that one player worth $115+ mil?

[xdrta+]

I saw that the cap is expected to decrease with 30 million. if the league won't find a way to balance it somehow, i don't think anybody wants to pay THAT much in luxury tax. So our TPE might be as good as gone.

Or, it might be more valuable, as other teams look to dump salary. That's the only way to use it, find a player that a team wants to get out from a contract.

But will ownership want to pay a player, for say 15+ mil dollar. And then have to also pay $100 mil more in luxury tax for adding this player. Is that one player worth $115+ mil?

It won't be that much since they have avoided the repeater tax for this year and next.

[cdubbz]

I hope Lacob says go ahead and use it to get another shot at a ring.

Dennis Schroeder- OKC is a small market and may want to part with him. Yes he’s a small guard, but shot well from 3, solid defender, competent ball handler, scoring off the bench.

Josh Richardson - Does Philly want to save money now that Simmons extension kicked in? He’s a shooter and their starting 2guard right? I guess they can add Thybulle to their lineup or Zhaire
smith or Furkan.

Looking in spotrac it’s difficult to see teams giving up players.

[wco81]

While i'd love to have Turner, I think the assumption that Pacers want Turner outta there is incorrect. Sure his numbers went down playing next to Sabonis, but thats because of the system. Sabonis is their roll man while Turner is now their spacing big, shooting as many 3s as 2s. On defense, they also work great together because Turner can go for every block while Sabonis cleans the glass.

Sabonis starts making almost $20 million starting next season.

Turner will be making $18 million for the next 3 seasons.

So they're at about $38 million for the center position for the next 3 seasons.

Oladipo makes $21 million next season and then hits UFA.

Brogdon also making one $20 million the next 3 seasons.

After those guys $10-12 million for Warren and $10.5 million for Lamb for the next 2 seasons.

The key is if Dipo earns a Max or Super Max after next season, assuming he returns to all-star form after the injury.

As a small market club, they have to show results, at least a top 4 seed and probably at least contend for the EC or else they may feel pressured to cut payroll.

[cdubbz]

So if we somehow get Myles Turner that means he’s on the books for the next 3 seasons? All the TPE guys I was looking at are expirings

Do we want to be paying $18 mil for him plus our 4 max guys?

[xdrta+]

A lot of talk about Turner. To get Turner, and his $18M salary, the Warriors have to send out a minimum of $14.4M in salary. I don't see any way this can happen unless they send Green or Wiggins.

[cdubbz]

Is grabbing Josh Richardson & Austin Rivers feasible?

Not sure why Rockets would give you Rivers at $2mil. He’s their only backup point. But he would solve our backup point guard and Josh can play at the 2 & 3 backup minutes. Our 2 second rounders can be tossed to whoever.

Draft Wiseman or Onyeka and our depth is much more balanced.

Curry/Rivers
Thompson/Poole
Wiggins/Richardson
Draymond/Paschall/Smiley
Quese/Onyeka or Wiseman/Looney

Super versatile backcourt with switch ability, ball handling & shooting. Front court needs a veteran.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

My question is if we were to use the $17M TPE to (Maybe $8.5M for a player from another team, and $8.6M for a player from another team), can they then be packaged together right after to acquire the player we're after?


Been trying the trade simulation, and applied the TPE, but salaries still didn't work? Their error or something?.....

[xdrta+]

My question is if we were to use the $17M TPE to (Maybe $8.5M for a player from another team, and $8.6M for a player from another team), can they then be packaged together right after to acquire the player we're after?


Been trying the trade simulation, and applied the TPE, but salaries still didn't work? Their error or something?.....

Those two players couldn't be packaged together for two months. Not because it's a trade exception, but because any player who is acquired using an exception (meaning any means other than cap room) can't include that player in an aggregated trade for two months. Aggregated just means combining the salaries. They could immediately be traded separately.

[TB]

While i'd love to have Turner, I think the assumption that Pacers want Turner outta there is incorrect. Sure his numbers went down playing next to Sabonis, but thats because of the system. Sabonis is their roll man while Turner is now their spacing big, shooting as many 3s as 2s. On defense, they also work great together because Turner can go for every block while Sabonis cleans the glass.

Sabonis starts making almost $20 million starting next season.

Turner will be making $18 million for the next 3 seasons.

So they're at about $38 million for the center position for the next 3 seasons.

Oladipo makes $21 million next season and then hits UFA.

Brogdon also making one $20 million the next 3 seasons.

After those guys $10-12 million for Warren and $10.5 million for Lamb for the next 2 seasons.

The key is if Dipo earns a Max or Super Max after next season, assuming he returns to all-star form after the injury.

As a small market club, they have to show results, at least a top 4 seed and probably at least contend for the EC or else they may feel pressured to cut payroll.

Should be an interesting team to watch this year with Dipo fully back.

To me, Brogdon, Dipo, Warren, Turner, Sabonis is a great lineup. And the numbers show it as well. Sure, they may be seen as two centers, but they play together alot with great results.

I could see the Pacers maybe going in a different direction if they don't have success this year, but I don't see them dumping one of their bigs until that happens.