Giannis

ShayDee · Post #101 » by **ShayDee** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:43 am

Nets need to take down 2 birds with 1 stone Giannis and Raps. Then Nets and Blazers Finals would be lit

HiRez · Post #102 » by **HiRez** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:24 pm

Little Digger wrote:
HiRez wrote:Would be so much fun if Lillard and the Blazers take out the Lakers (Round 1), Rockets (Round 2), Clippers (Round 3) and Bucks (Finals) and win it all.

I just wish they had a couple rotation perimeter players who could defend..

Yeah, that perimeter D is biting them in the ass right now vs. Memphis, they're leaving guys wide open and 3s are raining. Memphis shooting 58% from 3 in the game through 3 quarters.

The Maestro · Post #103 » by **The Maestro** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:35 am

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/08/15/giannis-antetokounmpo-frustrated-with-bucks-level-of-play-3-5-record/

The Maestro · Post #104 » by **The Maestro** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:55 pm

Giannis showing frustration on the court, head butting, planting stories in the media....the plan In case they lose is coming together nicely.

Mylie10 · Post #105 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:42 pm

The Maestro wrote:Giannis showing frustration on the court, head butting, planting stories in the media....the plan In case they lose is coming together nicely.

Well, I have to say that Toronto is probably higher on his list right now because of Majeri. So keep an eye on them as well.

The Maestro · Post #106 » by **The Maestro** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:12 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
The Maestro wrote:Giannis showing frustration on the court, head butting, planting stories in the media....the plan In case they lose is coming together nicely.

Well, I have to say that Toronto is probably higher on his list right now because of Majeri. So keep an eye on them as well.

Toronto is a threat for sure but they’re not higher on his list. He loves Curry and the Warriors offer a different level of exposure that people in his circle are pushing for.

ShayDee · Post #107 » by **ShayDee** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:57 pm

How are Raptors Higher? They won't loose Giannis for free and Raps do not have the assets that Bucks would want in a trade. Siakam + picks is not better than Wiggins + a top 5 pick+ minny pick + future and why would they trade Giannis to a rival? Plus we have a higher chance to win than raps do because after they trade away Siakam which is a bad fit with Giannis btw they have no one on the roster. Old man Lowry/FVV/Powell or whoever they have won't be better than what GS would have left in a trade

Mylie10 · Post #108 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:50 pm

ShayDee wrote:How are Raptors Higher? They won't loose Giannis for free and Raps do not have the assets that Bucks would want in a trade. Siakam + picks is not better than Wiggins + a top 5 pick+ minny pick + future and why would they trade Giannis to a rival? Plus we have a higher chance to win than raps do because after they trade away Siakam which is a bad fit with Giannis btw they have no one on the roster. Old man Lowry/FVV/Powell or whoever they have won't be better than what GS would have left in a trade

It’s my opinion. The reason I said it was Majeri. He and Giannis have known each other a long time.

And.....just like with us, Giannis would have to demand the trade. Therefore the packages offered aren’t as important as Giannis being willing to play a strong hand to go where he wants. So disregard who may have the best package. Because it’s going to take Giannis for this to get done, whether it’s us or Toronto, or somebody else.

cdubbz · Post #109 » by **cdubbz** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:50 am

We have Wiggins, 2 lotto picks, Paschall, Poole to trade. If Giannis wants out how can you pass a top 5 pick and next year lottery pick plus a 20ppg young wing.

Captain_Caveman · Post #110 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:22 am

The Maestro wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
The Maestro wrote:Giannis showing frustration on the court, head butting, planting stories in the media....the plan In case they lose is coming together nicely.

Well, I have to say that Toronto is probably higher on his list right now because of Majeri. So keep an eye on them as well.

Toronto is a threat for sure but they’re not higher on his list. He loves Curry and the Warriors offer a different level of exposure that people in his circle are pushing for.

A) You know less than I do about this and shouldn't have posted it, lol.

B) Bucks very likely don't agree to trade him to Ws, at least not in 2020. Why would they? They are a top contender next season, and probably never will be again. And they are taking Wiggins, a high pick in a weak draft, a Wolves pick that might not pan out, and spare parts? You guys don't even have cap room coming up. This is muuuuuch more difficult that you are portraying it. This isn't a Kawhi or AD situation, as those teams didn't give up a shot at a title. This is LeBron heading into his final season in Cleveland. They knew he was leaving but opted to keep him, make the Finals, and then just let him go.

wco81 · Post #111 » by **wco81** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:48 am

cdubbz wrote:We have Wiggins, 2 lotto picks, Paschall, Poole to trade. If Giannis wants out how can you pass a top 5 pick and next year lottery pick plus a 20ppg young wing.

I wouldn’t count on the Wolves pick being lotto.

It’s impossible to predict.

Celtics are getting a #14 pick from Memphis and a couple of years ago or even last year, they were hoping for top 5 or even top 3.

The Maestro · Post #112 » by **The Maestro** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:45 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
The Maestro wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Well, I have to say that Toronto is probably higher on his list right now because of Majeri. So keep an eye on them as well.

Toronto is a threat for sure but they’re not higher on his list. He loves Curry and the Warriors offer a different level of exposure that people in his circle are pushing for.

A) You know less than I do about this and shouldn't have posted it, lol.

B) Bucks very likely don't agree to trade him to Ws, at least not in 2020. Why would they? They are a top contender next season, and probably never will be again. And they are taking Wiggins, a high pick in a weak draft, a Wolves pick that might not pan out, and spare parts? You guys don't even have cap room coming up. This is muuuuuch more difficult that you are portraying it. This isn't a Kawhi or AD situation, as those teams didn't give up a shot at a title. This is LeBron heading into his final season in Cleveland. They knew he was leaving but opted to keep him, make the Finals, and then just let him go.

I don’t know who you are or what you know but I’m very confident in what I was told and who told it to me.

I never said it would be easy to get Giannis. It’s actually the opposite and odds are it doesn’t happen but he for sure told Curry that he wants to play in the Bay and his business team and others in his inner circle would like to see it happen also.

First things first though. Gotta get a top 2 pick and then the Bucks lose in the playoffs. Then we see what happens.

cdubbz · Post #113 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:21 am

wco81 wrote:
cdubbz wrote:We have Wiggins, 2 lotto picks, Paschall, Poole to trade. If Giannis wants out how can you pass a top 5 pick and next year lottery pick plus a 20ppg young wing.

I wouldn’t count on the Wolves pick being lotto.

It’s impossible to predict.

Celtics are getting a #14 pick from Memphis and a couple of years ago or even last year, they were hoping for top 5 or even top 3.

True but that’s why you trade before things change. Maybe Jazz slip out the playoffs or injuries kill a playoff team and Wolvea get in.

xdrta+ · Post #114 » by **xdrta+** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:34 am

The Maestro wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
The Maestro wrote:
Toronto is a threat for sure but they’re not higher on his list. He loves Curry and the Warriors offer a different level of exposure that people in his circle are pushing for.

A) You know less than I do about this and shouldn't have posted it, lol.

B) Bucks very likely don't agree to trade him to Ws, at least not in 2020. Why would they? They are a top contender next season, and probably never will be again. And they are taking Wiggins, a high pick in a weak draft, a Wolves pick that might not pan out, and spare parts? You guys don't even have cap room coming up. This is muuuuuch more difficult that you are portraying it. This isn't a Kawhi or AD situation, as those teams didn't give up a shot at a title. This is LeBron heading into his final season in Cleveland. They knew he was leaving but opted to keep him, make the Finals, and then just let him go.

I don’t know who you are or what you know but I’m very confident in what I was told and who told it to me.

I never said it would be easy to get Giannis. It’s actually the opposite and odds are it doesn’t happen but he for sure told Curry that he wants to play in the Bay and his business team and others in his inner circle would like to see it happen also.

First things first though. Gotta get a top 2 pick and then the Bucks lose in the playoffs. Then we see what happens.

You don't give up on your impossible dreams, I'll give you that.

ShayDee · Post #115 » by **ShayDee** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:34 am

xdrta+ wrote:
The Maestro wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
A) You know less than I do about this and shouldn't have posted it, lol.

B) Bucks very likely don't agree to trade him to Ws, at least not in 2020. Why would they? They are a top contender next season, and probably never will be again. And they are taking Wiggins, a high pick in a weak draft, a Wolves pick that might not pan out, and spare parts? You guys don't even have cap room coming up. This is muuuuuch more difficult that you are portraying it. This isn't a Kawhi or AD situation, as those teams didn't give up a shot at a title. This is LeBron heading into his final season in Cleveland. They knew he was leaving but opted to keep him, make the Finals, and then just let him go.

I don’t know who you are or what you know but I’m very confident in what I was told and who told it to me.

I never said it would be easy to get Giannis. It’s actually the opposite and odds are it doesn’t happen but he for sure told Curry that he wants to play in the Bay and his business team and others in his inner circle would like to see it happen also.

First things first though. Gotta get a top 2 pick and then the Bucks lose in the playoffs. Then we see what happens.

You don't give up on your impossible dreams, I'll give you that.

Not impossible but improbable

TB · Post #116 » by TB » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:00 pm

I could be wrong, but seems like Bucks winning/losing won't change this scenario much... or at the very least I don't think the Bucks winning is some dealbreaker on getting Giannis.

Wouldn't it be alot easier for Giannis to keep his status with fans if the Bucks won a title and then he says "i've accomplished what I was after here, really happy for the city, but now i'd like to go on the a chapter with the Warriors"?

Seems to me that is the best way to avoid the KD backlash and still get what your after.

The Maestro · Post #117 » by **The Maestro** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:37 pm

TB wrote:I could be wrong, but seems like Bucks winning/losing won't change this scenario much... or at the very least I don't think the Bucks winning is some dealbreaker on getting Giannis.

Wouldn't it be alot easier for Giannis to keep his status with fans if the Bucks won a title and then he says "i've accomplished what I was after here, really happy for the city, but now i'd like to go on the a chapter with the Warriors"?

Seems to me that is the best way to avoid the KD backlash and still get what your after.

I don’t think he’s leaving if they win it

Little Digger · Post #118 » by **Little Digger** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:49 pm

Which stars that had a golden opportunity to leave, stayed In Milwaukee?

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #119 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:55 pm

Only first game of Orlando - Milwaukee playoff series.. and Orlando coming out BLAZIN' and look to take game 1 (So far).

Just one game at a time...

Warriors Analyst · Post #120 » by **Warriors Analyst** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:04 pm

TB wrote:I could be wrong, but seems like Bucks winning/losing won't change this scenario much... or at the very least I don't think the Bucks winning is some dealbreaker on getting Giannis.

Wouldn't it be alot easier for Giannis to keep his status with fans if the Bucks won a title and then he says "i've accomplished what I was after here, really happy for the city, but now i'd like to go on the a chapter with the Warriors"?

Seems to me that is the best way to avoid the KD backlash and still get what your after.

At this point I feel like it's more likely he leaves than not. I've probably watched more of Milwaukee than the Warriors in the last three or four seasons. This iteration of the Milwaukee teams doesn't have a lot of paths to improvement. Middleton is in his prime right now and he might get marginally better (mind you, he's a phenomenal player) but beyond that, the team is old. The Lopii are in their 30's, Wes Matthews might not have another NBA contract in him, Bledsoe is going to age terribly and got extended, George Hill is 35 and just got a new deal (!), Marvin Williams is old as hell, Korver is nearly 40.

Divicienzo and Connaughton are pretty much the only youngish guys that play in the Bucks rotation. I like DDV, but he's not going to become their third star. Connaughton is nice, but he's not a starter. Their play in the bubble has been atrocious and it's hard to see any team being scared of them. I just don't see how Milwaukee makes any meaningful improvements to their roster now.