Warriors select PG Nico Mannion with the 48th pick

[WarriorGM]

Nico Mannion or Ky Bowman? What makes Nico superior? Is Bowman even in the league anymore?

[KevinMcreynolds]

Nico Mannion or Ky Bowman? What makes Nico superior? Is Bowman even in the league anymore?

he was in the G League bubble and had a major injury

[TB]

I have a feeling Mannion is going to make a nice leap next year. We never got to see him make improvements from 1 year to the next in college, but will get to do that now in the NBA.

In limited minutes I thought he ran the team well, defended well, and shot the 3 well. His main issue was somewhat similar to Jordan Poole's rookie year in that he simply had zero confidence finishing inside with floaters or attacking the rim. Even in transition he was scared of help defenders. This is all fixable. Poole went from 39% to 55% from 2. Nico was at 32% from 2 this year, which tanked his TS%. Guys like VanVleet and Rubio also were in the 30's from 2 their first sesason, and have managed to get that into the mid 40's most years.

Still prefer getting someone like Marcus Smart via trade to share backup playmaking duties with Poole, but I have no problem penciling Nico in as the 3rd PG. In fact I think he will show next year that he is a worthy backup PG by end of season.

[marthafokker]

I am starting to feel Dubbs would have done better with Paul Reed.

[Onus]

I am starting to feel Dubbs would have done better with Paul Reed.

Paul Reed would've been much better or even Naji Marshall

[TB]

Funny y'all say that, because Hinton, Naji, and Reed were all in my top 20 big board. And were the 3 players I had higher than Nico when we picked him.

So while I like the Nico pick, I agree that I would have rather had the players mentioned above. And felt that way during the draft. Was praying the see a tweet come through that Hinton and Naji were our 2way guys.

Oh well, my points about Nico stand, he is a good player (and much younger so who knows how he compares to Reed or Naji when he is their age).

[Scoots1994]

Pretty hard to tell yet. His size is a concern, but too early to call it.

[Onus]

I'm surprised people are still high on Nico. He didn't flash anything meaningful to me.

[floppymoose]

I never understood the Nico excitement either. He did work well with Poole in the G-League, at least, so that's something. But in terms of nba talent I don't think he's going to be impactful.

[Sleepy51]

A PG who can't turn the corner and get downhill can't play in the NBA. Next.

[Scoots1994]

I'm surprised people are still high on Nico. He didn't flash anything meaningful to me.

Basically for me it's just that nobody drafted after him did much either. He's worth a second training camp at least as a 2-way. It's not a high bar to get over.

[Onus]

I'm surprised people are still high on Nico. He didn't flash anything meaningful to me.

Basically for me it's just that nobody drafted after him did much either. He's worth a second training camp at least as a 2-way. It's not a high bar to get over.

Not true. Naji Marshall actually got playing time for the pels, Paul Reed was the gleague mvp. Paul Reed would’ve helped a lot and he’s exactly the type of player that we need.

[cdubbz]

I'm surprised people are still high on Nico. He didn't flash anything meaningful to me.

Basically for me it's just that nobody drafted after him did much either. He's worth a second training camp at least as a 2-way. It's not a high bar to get over.

I think Nico is worth a 2-way and second training camp for sure. He was in the same talent level as Cole Anthony just a few years ago. I still want to see if he can make the NBA leap in talent.

I can see Nico being a 3rd string PG for now. If his jumper gets consistent he can be that extra shooter that we have in mulder.

[Scoots1994]

I'm surprised people are still high on Nico. He didn't flash anything meaningful to me.

Basically for me it's just that nobody drafted after him did much either. He's worth a second training camp at least as a 2-way. It's not a high bar to get over.

Not true. Naji Marshall actually got playing time for the pels, Paul Reed was the gleague mvp. Paul Reed would’ve helped a lot and he’s exactly the type of player that we need.

I said they didn't do much, and limited NBA minutes or g-league awards is not much. Smiley was a quality player in g-league.

In addition, Naji is 4 years older than Nico, Reed is 2 years older,

I wouldn't mind either Naji or Reed, but none of the 3 are anywhere close to being quality NBA players yet.

[Onus]

Basically for me it's just that nobody drafted after him did much either. He's worth a second training camp at least as a 2-way. It's not a high bar to get over.

Not true. Naji Marshall actually got playing time for the pels, Paul Reed was the gleague mvp. Paul Reed would’ve helped a lot and he’s exactly the type of player that we need.

I said they didn't do much, and limited NBA minutes or g-league awards is not much. Smiley was a quality player in g-league.

In addition, Naji is 4 years older than Nico, Reed is 2 years older,

I wouldn't mind either Naji or Reed, but none of the 3 are anywhere close to being quality NBA players yet.

Naji was getting real rotation minutes for a team that was pushing to get into the play in. Reed, Doc just has an aversion to playing rookies but in a NBA sense sure he's a question mark.

Yes they are older, which means they're more likely ready to play now. What do we need? players that are ready to play now. Not some scrub with limited upside who can't even get in the rotation when we're down to 8 men while playing 3 other g leaguers.

We should be able to do better than Nico for a 2 way. Jessup should be getting a 2 way before Nico

[Scoots1994]

Not true. Naji Marshall actually got playing time for the pels, Paul Reed was the gleague mvp. Paul Reed would’ve helped a lot and he’s exactly the type of player that we need.

I said they didn't do much, and limited NBA minutes or g-league awards is not much. Smiley was a quality player in g-league.

In addition, Naji is 4 years older than Nico, Reed is 2 years older,

I wouldn't mind either Naji or Reed, but none of the 3 are anywhere close to being quality NBA players yet.

Naji was getting real rotation minutes for a team that was pushing to get into the play in. Reed, Doc just has an aversion to playing rookies but in a NBA sense sure he's a question mark.

Yes they are older, which means they're more likely ready to play now. What do we need? players that are ready to play now. Not some scrub with limited upside who can't even get in the rotation when we're down to 8 men while playing 3 other g leaguers.

We should be able to do better than Nico for a 2 way. Jessup should be getting a 2 way before Nico

The purpose of the 2-way is to develop players, but you say "what do we need? players that are ready to play now" ... that's not what a 2-way deal is for.

The Warriors gave up too quick on Nunn and Boucher and it seemed clear to me that they were but when I said it people were saying "we need to win now" ... teams NEED to spend time developing and evaluating players for years down the road. Cheap players that fill out your roster that know your system have real value.

All that said, I have no issue with the Warriors moving on from Nico if they have a better player to replace him since he is just a 2-way project player.

[TB]

i love Reed and Naji (would swap with Nico now if I could), but the point about their age is a good one. Nico is so young, and played fairly under control for such a young kid. Not to mention he ended up shooting a good 3 ball percentage.

I'm not saying he's going to be a starter and be dunking on guys like he did in high school, but I do think he cements himself as a good 3rd PG next year. I was really impressed with his lateral quickness, which makes me think he can definitely follow the path of another Arizona guy TJ McConnell. Only hes more athletic and can shoot better.

[GSWFan1994]

Nico just seems to me as someone who's barely NBA-level. No burst, no calling card, very bad at finishing inside.

If he's lucky he will get a few years in the league as a 3rd string PG, like Raul Neto, Shaquille Harrison, etc.

I'd love to be proven wrong on this, though.

[Onus]

Add Markus Howard to the list that I’d rather have over nico who is actually playing in the playoffs.

[Onus]

I said they didn't do much, and limited NBA minutes or g-league awards is not much. Smiley was a quality player in g-league.

In addition, Naji is 4 years older than Nico, Reed is 2 years older,

I wouldn't mind either Naji or Reed, but none of the 3 are anywhere close to being quality NBA players yet.

Naji was getting real rotation minutes for a team that was pushing to get into the play in. Reed, Doc just has an aversion to playing rookies but in a NBA sense sure he's a question mark.

Yes they are older, which means they're more likely ready to play now. What do we need? players that are ready to play now. Not some scrub with limited upside who can't even get in the rotation when we're down to 8 men while playing 3 other g leaguers.

We should be able to do better than Nico for a 2 way. Jessup should be getting a 2 way before Nico

The purpose of the 2-way is to develop players, but you say "what do we need? players that are ready to play now" ... that's not what a 2-way deal is for.

The Warriors gave up too quick on Nunn and Boucher and it seemed clear to me that they were but when I said it people were saying "we need to win now" ... teams NEED to spend time developing and evaluating players for years down the road. Cheap players that fill out your roster that know your system have real value.

All that said, I have no issue with the Warriors moving on from Nico if they have a better player to replace him since he is just a 2-way project player.

Yes the purpose is to develop players does that mean we couldn’t develop naji or Paul Reed? They have more upside than nico and are already better players. Adding the right 2nd draft pick doesn’t preclude us from developing them. It’s not like naji or Paul Reed are 10 year veterans. Like what are you even talking about?

You asked for rookies that went later than nico that would’ve been better developmental projects and I’ve given you 2 and Markus Howard is a third.