way too early Philly speculation

[Upperclass]

7 and 14 can probably get Simmons.. but whos salary goes..

[vetmin]

7 and 14 can probably get Simmons.. but whos salary goes..

Rhymes with Ziggins...

[SpreeChokeJob]

There’s a lot of prisoner of the moment paralysis by analysis going on here. Look at what this 24 year old dude has accomplished in 4 years of his NBA career :

3× NBA All-Star (2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2020)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2018)
NBA steals leader (2020)

I love Draymond as much as the next guy but to say that Draymond is unquestionably the better player is nuts. Draymond gets to play with two of the best players who have ever lived. Put Ben in the same situation and the results are just as good if not better.

The guy had a terrible series and he has some issues to work through but he will be fine.

Draymond is the better player between the ears and on the left side of his chest.

It’s a matter of whether the team wants to compete for championships or rebuild. If they want to compete for ship this coming year Dray, rebuild choose Simmons.

If they ship out Dray then they pretty much have to ship out the big three. That will put the team rebuild at light speed, but they can’t do that because of bad karma that would come. But if they did though and could get a superstar free agent, the rebuild time would be very short.

[mos_def]

There’s a lot of prisoner of the moment paralysis by analysis going on here. Look at what this 24 year old dude has accomplished in 4 years of his NBA career :

3× NBA All-Star (2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2020)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2018)
NBA steals leader (2020)

I love Draymond as much as the next guy but to say that Draymond is unquestionably the better player is nuts. Draymond gets to play with two of the best players who have ever lived. Put Ben in the same situation and the results are just as good if not better.

The guy had a terrible series and he has some issues to work through but he will be fine.

Draymond is the better player between the ears and on the left side of his chest.

It’s a matter of whether the team wants to compete for championships or rebuild. If they want to compete for ship this coming year Dray, rebuild choose Simmons.

If they ship out Dray then they pretty much have to ship out the big three. That will put the team rebuild at light speed, but they can’t do that because of bad karma that would come. But if they did though and could get a superstar free agent, the rebuild time would be very short.

The bad part of Ben Simmons is that his stats his rookie year and until now have been the same. There has been no real progression.

[Currygoat]

Simmons would be a good fit if Draymond could shoot the 3 like his younger years

[Rudruff]

Simmons and Dray playing together doesn't scare me. Worst case one is always in the dunkers spot. Simmons free throws are the problem.

[SpreeChokeJob]

There’s a lot of prisoner of the moment paralysis by analysis going on here. Look at what this 24 year old dude has accomplished in 4 years of his NBA career :

3× NBA All-Star (2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2020)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2018)
NBA steals leader (2020)

I love Draymond as much as the next guy but to say that Draymond is unquestionably the better player is nuts. Draymond gets to play with two of the best players who have ever lived. Put Ben in the same situation and the results are just as good if not better.

The guy had a terrible series and he has some issues to work through but he will be fine.

Draymond is the better player between the ears and on the left side of his chest.

It’s a matter of whether the team wants to compete for championships or rebuild. If they want to compete for ship this coming year Dray, rebuild choose Simmons.

If they ship out Dray then they pretty much have to ship out the big three. That will put the team rebuild at light speed, but they can’t do that because of bad karma that would come. But if they did though and could get a superstar free agent, the rebuild time would be very short.

The bad part of Ben Simmons is that his stats his rookie year and until now have been the same. There has been no real progression.

I wouldn’t take Simmons in a stand-alone deal for either Dray or Wiggins. They would have to include more for this team to take him.

But in my mind giving up Dray means giving up any championship aspirations. They could start a partial rebuild by trading Wiggins and Dray for some younger players, but that would signal that they are not competing for championships anymore.

I think of Simmons as a complementary player like Dray, although inferior to Dray in all aspects except for size and athleticism, so for him not to improve if the plan is to rebuild is not the issue. He would just be a role player for a future core. Although he would have to come with some other players or picks to add to the depth of the team.

[Impuniti]

Simmons would be a good fit if Draymond could shoot the 3 like his younger years

People need to stop clinging hope to this. If he is not an embarrassment as a 3P shooter next season, we can call it a massive win.

[Scoots1994]

There’s a lot of prisoner of the moment paralysis by analysis going on here. Look at what this 24 year old dude has accomplished in 4 years of his NBA career :

3× NBA All-Star (2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2020)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2018)
NBA steals leader (2020)

I love Draymond as much as the next guy but to say that Draymond is unquestionably the better player is nuts. Draymond gets to play with two of the best players who have ever lived. Put Ben in the same situation and the results are just as good if not better.

The guy had a terrible series and he has some issues to work through but he will be fine.

Draymond is the better player between the ears and on the left side of his chest.

It’s a matter of whether the team wants to compete for championships or rebuild. If they want to compete for ship this coming year Dray, rebuild choose Simmons.

If they ship out Dray then they pretty much have to ship out the big three. That will put the team rebuild at light speed, but they can’t do that because of bad karma that would come. But if they did though and could get a superstar free agent, the rebuild time would be very short.

The bad part of Ben Simmons is that his stats his rookie year and until now have been the same. There has been no real progression.

There has been some regression.

[SpreeS]

if Simmons is so great defensively why his team is having better D when he is off the court in the PS?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/simmobe01/on-off/2021

Why GSW w/o Green has better D than with Green?

[HiRez]

Wiggins, Poole, and the #14 (hopefully) OR the #7 (if needed) for Simmons and Seth Curry. Then instead of the Splash Bros we get the Triple Triplets plus the Simmons high risk/reward salvage project. Saves us a bunch of money too because Philly has a lot coming off their books this year so they could afford to take on a little extra.

[weekend_warrior]

Not interested in Simmons at all. Doesn't fit Warriors ball. These line-ups with Simmons and Dray would be insane(ly bad on offense). And Green is the better player individually. More impactful defense, no FT liability, can at least hit the occasional 3 or even get kinda hot. Also Simmons appears soft and disinterested, while Dray is a leader.

Simmons ist just a disappointment considering the pre-draft comparisons. Still a solid player, but if he wasn't a former no1 pick, nobody would talk him up like this. The guy is seriously flawed.

[Coxy]

I dont want Andris Simmons.

I called it a long time ago, Simmons has no heart. As an Aussie, we have bombarded with all things Simmons since he was young, and he’s always gotten by on pure athletic ability, and has never showed anything that suggests he really wants to be great. Pass. Hate entitled players that think their poop don’t smell.

[DaBolden76]

Draymond is better than Simmons so hard No. If you trade Draymond might as well trade Curry since they mean a lot together.

Simmons could either play C/PF, however, the question is does he work with Green. Simmons requires the paint to be open to operate but is clogged at Philly as Embiid in that area as well.

[DaBolden76]

thats a 35 win team right there. small ball will destroy us and wiseman will put up 25 shots when Curry gives up ball against double team.

Will Klay suddenly not shoot the ball?

he would be still moving while the ball is already in the air. think about it, if Simmons is the pg he would be passing to the big man

Simmons wouldn’t be the PG. Philly the only organisation that considers him as one.

[Impuniti]

Read on Twitter

If this is true, someone like Bron or Curry who are all about work ethic would throw this lazy bum out of the gym after a week of practice.

[cpower]

if Simmons is so great defensively why his team is having better D when he is off the court in the PS?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/simmobe01/on-off/2021

Why GSW w/o Green has better D than with Green?

he spent more time on offense due to the lack of talent we have on this roster, just look at every PS series in the past Green has been money when it matters.

[Scoots1994]

if Simmons is so great defensively why his team is having better D when he is off the court in the PS?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/simmobe01/on-off/2021

Why GSW w/o Green has better D than with Green?

The on-off numbers don't really reflect what's happening. It's more about who he's getting most of his minutes with. Simmons is in a similar situation. The main issue with Simmons is that he's mentally broken because of his shooting issues. It's made him passive on offense. Green isn't passive, he's looking to find the most efficient offense and realizes it's not usually himself. Simmons is actively avoiding going at defenses.

[Impuniti]

if Simmons is so great defensively why his team is having better D when he is off the court in the PS?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/simmobe01/on-off/2021

Why GSW w/o Green has better D than with Green?

The on-off numbers don't really reflect what's happening. It's more about who he's getting most of his minutes with. Simmons is in a similar situation. The main issue with Simmons is that he's mentally broken because of his shooting issues. It's made him passive on offense. Green isn't passive, he's looking to find the most efficient offense and realizes it's not usually himself. Simmons is actively avoiding going at defenses.

This isn't true at all. Dray is extremely passive, he just looks better compared to Simmons whose mentally broken. But Dray is definitely off mentally when it comes to shooting. There are full on games, not just plays where you can see Dray is getting zero respect offensively and he is still only looking for a pass instead of a shot while being completely open. Makes the offense predictable.

If Dray went back to 16/17 season, forget 15/16, this team's offense gets significantly better.

[ILOVEIT]

I dont want Andris Simmons.

I called it a long time ago, Simmons has no heart. As an Aussie, we have bombarded with all things Simmons since he was young, and he’s always gotten by on pure athletic ability, and has never showed anything that suggests he really wants to be great. Pass. Hate entitled players that think their poop don’t smell.

Very clever combination...spot on.

I want no part of a guy that the other team's defense can completely ignore.

Examples of this stuff are all over the place....remember Warriors ignoring Allen on Memphis? Defenses completely laying off Giannis or him being afraid to get fouled so fumbling the ball.

Point is....we have assets....ALREADY have a HOF defensive player WITH HEART...I'm not giving up any of that just to play an enigmatic player who is suffering some form of PTSD.