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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#101 » by Warriorfan » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:01 am

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Impuniti wrote:As long as good season isn't being a real contender, then sure it's possible to make it past the playin and lose in the 1st/2nd round like Lakers last season.


It's all about match ups and health. Close to 100 games left till a new champion.

Kerr experiments with lineups and tries to build playoff chemistry and doesn't chase wins.

This team has no chance to win a championship unless the top players of every competitor get injured before playing the Warriors. I'm not sure how Kerr's tinkering is going to change anything.


Fact warriors starting lineup
Of Wiggins, Green, Looney, Thompson Curry had best net rtg of any lineup that played over 200min last year.

That lineup has had limited time this season due to injury.

Bench has been effective this year.

So to say no chance is an opinion not grounded in fact.

It's early in the season with Timberwolves and Thunder top the conference

Some climbing back to their averages

https://bluemanhoop.com/posts/golden-state-warriors-shooting-trajectory-optimism
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#102 » by Zvaart » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:08 am

Last year is not this year
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#103 » by Warriorfan » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:10 am

svart wrote:Last year is not this year


This year is only 20% done so not really relevant sample size. Especially when one of the main problems offensively is Thompson and Wiggins shooting %
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#104 » by xdrta+ » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:12 am

svart wrote:Last year is not this year


November is not April.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#105 » by Impuniti » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:03 am

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It's all about match ups and health. Close to 100 games left till a new champion.

Kerr experiments with lineups and tries to build playoff chemistry and doesn't chase wins.

This team has no chance to win a championship unless the top players of every competitor get injured before playing the Warriors. I'm not sure how Kerr's tinkering is going to change anything.


Fact warriors starting lineup
Of Wiggins, Green, Looney, Thompson Curry had best net rtg of any lineup that played over 200min last year.

That lineup has had limited time this season due to injury.

Bench has been effective this year.

So to say no chance is an opinion not grounded in fact.

It's early in the season with Timberwolves and Thunder top the conference

Some climbing back to their averages

https://bluemanhoop.com/posts/golden-state-warriors-shooting-trajectory-optimism

And that lineup got punked in the playoffs. So yes, if the goal is to not be a playin team during the regular season, then yes the team will be fine. If the goal is to be a real contender, not one of the 12 teams that might win it, but an actual contender, than this team is not it.

They don't have a chance this season and so far they show it. Even if the shooting was better, there are so many issues with this roster and team that won't fix them to be winning a chip.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#106 » by Thugleavy34 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:40 am

Sandy333 wrote:Been a closet forum reader for some time. Spent so many hours of my life with the warriors, just hurts to see them in this downward spiral and clueless to boot. Just signed up to offer my last two cents, not that it is going to making a difference to warriors.


Welcome to the board. I truly mean that. But the way to ingratiate yourself is not to accuse others of being paid by the organization lol.

The warriors weren't as good as their great start made them look. They're not as bad as they look right now. With GP2 back, now Draymond, it will be a significant boost to the defense. Wiggins will break out of his slump. Klay may well be washed, but the team has solid pieces. likely a 4-6 seed and, if all things break right, could make a run. Not a powerhouse anymore. Not despair worthy either. It's a long season. There are always bad stretches.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#107 » by Zvaart » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:29 am

xdrta+ wrote:
svart wrote:Last year is not this year


November is not April.


Indeed. In April they will be half an year older
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#108 » by ShayDee » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 am

The starting lineup was good last year but was exposed in the playoffs when the lakers figured out they did not have to guard two thirds of the lineup and just make life hard for Steph and protect the paint. Now every team in the league is doing it this year. Then you compound all that with Klay and Wiggins struggles which if they do not improve then this team is in serious trouble if 36 year old Steph Curry and 38 Chris paul have to play big minutes to carry them all year
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#109 » by Jester_ » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:30 am

19th in net rating.

Nothing to see here folks. All according to plan. Squad Stupid has assured us our coach, the human equivalent of a bran flake, will get us to the promised land.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#110 » by Warriorfan » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:20 pm

ShayDee wrote:The starting lineup was good last year but was exposed in the playoffs when the lakers figured out they did not have to guard two thirds of the lineup and just make life hard for Steph and protect the paint. Now every team in the league is doing it this year. Then you compound all that with Klay and Wiggins struggles which if they do not improve then this team is in serious trouble if 36 year old Steph Curry and 38 Chris paul have to play big minutes to carry them all year


See Saric. Plus CP3 solidifies 2nd unit that just need to hit their shots.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#111 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:23 pm

Jester_ wrote:19th in net rating.

Nothing to see here folks. All according to plan. Squad Stupid has assured us our coach, the human equivalent of a bran flake, will get us to the promised land.


Yeah what has our hall of fame coach done for us lately!
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#112 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:02 pm

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Jester_ wrote:19th in net rating.

Nothing to see here folks. All according to plan. Squad Stupid has assured us our coach, the human equivalent of a bran flake, will get us to the promised land.


Yeah what has our hall of fame coach done for us lately!


Nellie was a HoF coach too.. just saying that being a hall of fame coach doesnt make you immune to being a part of the problem
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#113 » by Old_Blue » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:04 pm

Jester_ wrote:Squad Stupid has assured us our coach, the human equivalent of a bran flake, will get us to the promised land.


Six pages into this thread and none of the people stamping their foot for Kerr to be fired has mentioned even a single possible replacement. Or, is the goal simply to irreparably break the team?
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#114 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:07 pm

Of course you dont fire him.. but he has to stop sticking to his guns and banking on the talent of the starting lineup to bail the entire team out. Its a new chapter in the dynasty, one with very little margin of error, and something that has to be managed more than before

Cant expect a new person to understand the system.. they'll go back to the NBA default, which would decimate the positive impact of several key players and do way more damage than what's currently going on
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#115 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:27 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
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Jester_ wrote:19th in net rating.

Nothing to see here folks. All according to plan. Squad Stupid has assured us our coach, the human equivalent of a bran flake, will get us to the promised land.


Yeah what has our hall of fame coach done for us lately!


Nellie was a HoF coach too.. just saying that being a hall of fame coach doesnt make you immune to being a part of the problem


Kerr is arguably a top 5 coach of all-time, definitely top 10. I’m fine if someone wants to criticize a specific decision but to call him a dumb coach in general is asinine.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#116 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:06 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
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Yeah what has our hall of fame coach done for us lately!


Nellie was a HoF coach too.. just saying that being a hall of fame coach doesnt make you immune to being a part of the problem


Kerr is arguably a top 5 coach of all-time, definitely top 10. I’m fine if someone wants to criticize a specific decision but to call him a dumb coach in general is asinine.


Rankings are subjective, but I think people wanting to just erase Kerr and those who think he's beyond critique are 2 sides of the same dumbass coin.. it sounded like that in your first post but much clearer now

If anything, he's stubborn. And that's fine, but even stubborn folks need to know when they aren't winning the battle. And I dont think Kerr's winning the battle with *the usual*
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#117 » by Onus » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:50 pm

Kerr really has a tough job, a job Bob declined to do, which is to manage the big 3s egos as they are fading. I think Kerr is going to ride Klay until the playoffs. He'll have the entire season to turn it around which means there's going to a lot of lows. Really similar to JP last year played him all year even though he was actively tanking lineups, then cut his minutes in the playoffs. Which really means it's going to be a tough year.

We really need Moody to step up and make it clear he's better. He needs to take the spot. Kerr is not going to hand it to him over Klay.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#118 » by CDM_Stats » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:27 am

Right now Kerr is the scarecrow from the wizard of oz, but instead of a brain its a pair
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#119 » by Impuniti » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:35 am

Onus wrote:Kerr really has a tough job, a job Bob declined to do, which is to manage the big 3s egos as they are fading. I think Kerr is going to ride Klay until the playoffs. He'll have the entire season to turn it around which means there's going to a lot of lows. Really similar to JP last year played him all year even though he was actively tanking lineups, then cut his minutes in the playoffs. Which really means it's going to be a tough year.

We really need Moody to step up and make it clear he's better. He needs to take the spot. Kerr is not going to hand it to him over Klay.

You want to repeat this again?

11 points in the fourth quarter, 4-4, should be 6-6. Played very well. Got taken out halfway through never to be seen again. But don't you know, Steve says that he knows Moody needs more game time.

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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#120 » by ShayDee » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:38 am

I feel sorry for Moody. And no wonder young players don't develop here. Since 2016 how many draft picks have succeeded on this team? Damian Jones, Bell, McCaw, Jacob Evans, Poole, Smailagic, Paschall, Wise, Manion, and now Kuminga and Moody. Plus the plethora of 2 way contracts from UDFA that have been signed

And people think Lamelo, Hali, Franz, Sengun will flourish here? Not under freaking Kerr. They would be 100% benched for this version of Klay regardless of play

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