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Jester_ wrote:Can we trade Draymond Green for Grayson Allen?
cdubbz wrote:Donte DiVincenzo will outplay Poole this season.
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:I'm still not convinced that Kuminga isn't anything more than Bad Porn.
TB wrote:
We finally have a team for Nellie.... bring the old drunk back.
wco81 wrote:To raise his offensive game, he's going to have to be more consistent on 3s, because he's going to get a lot of wide open looks whereas if they tried to contest it, he'd have more chances to get into the lane.
CDM_Stats wrote:No but for real, THIS time it will be different
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
GQ Hot Dog wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:No but for real, THIS time it will be different
Eventually it will be different. If there's one thing we know FOR SURE is that 21 year olds don't stay the same. They can't help but change and everything about Kuminga's attitude this season I'm loving so I believe the permanent changes will be positive.
CDM_Stats wrote:No but for real, THIS time it will be different
CDM_Stats wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:No but for real, THIS time it will be different
Eventually it will be different. If there's one thing we know FOR SURE is that 21 year olds don't stay the same. They can't help but change and everything about Kuminga's attitude this season I'm loving so I believe the permanent changes will be positive.
Thats not how that works.. its an archetype. I dont really consider attitude issues about players.. its irritating but not wholly relevant. The guy can score, everything else is extremely inconsistent. But its the same old thing... Monta will definitely improve, Poole will definitely improve.. and then what? If they dont, they become a huge negative value contract that drags the team down
Sure Kuminga could do this night in and night out.. but there's a lot of evidence that says he won't. There's one month left on the clock before the trade value diminishes, and about 3-4 months before a contract decision has to be made. He'd need to show that the one game intangibles stick when they play motion teams that use off-ball schemes
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
Onus wrote:The goal should be to raise his value to where he can be 2 1sts for Lauri or bridges.
floppymoose wrote:Too much Vlad. Sixers can't handle it. Solid gold.
Onus wrote:The goal should be to raise his value to where he can be 2 1sts for Lauri or bridges.
GQ Hot Dog wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:Eventually it will be different. If there's one thing we know FOR SURE is that 21 year olds don't stay the same. They can't help but change and everything about Kuminga's attitude this season I'm loving so I believe the permanent changes will be positive.
Thats not how that works.. its an archetype. I dont really consider attitude issues about players.. its irritating but not wholly relevant. The guy can score, everything else is extremely inconsistent. But its the same old thing... Monta will definitely improve, Poole will definitely improve.. and then what? If they dont, they become a huge negative value contract that drags the team down
Sure Kuminga could do this night in and night out.. but there's a lot of evidence that says he won't. There's one month left on the clock before the trade value diminishes, and about 3-4 months before a contract decision has to be made. He'd need to show that the one game intangibles stick when they play motion teams that use off-ball schemes
You defensive qualms are overstated. And while the comparison of Monta and Poole are accurate for one another, neither player are relevant comparisons to Kuminga. Kuminga is an eager and committed defender and a willing passer.
Monta and Poole were what they were because if they weren't a bucket, they didn't have the talent to meaningfully contribute in any other way. Kuminga doesn't have that problem. He changes the game when he comes in and it's clear the Warriors are the best version of their current selves when he's in the game, mistakes and all.
At this point, his trajectory is away from being traded because he makes us better and it's not deniable.
KevinMcreynolds wrote:I still say JK will turn out to be our Aaron Gordon, and I'm fine with that. That's a good outcome for a #7 pick.
whatisacenter wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:No but for real, THIS time it will be different
He has had one stinker, the game against Miami with 6 turnovers, but other than that his play has been improving if you ask me.
He isn't fouling as much as he was.
He isn't forcing the ball as much as he was.
He is rebounding better
He is moving the ball and finding shooters better.
I was at the game last night as well and was concerned late in the game when he was guarding Franz off ball but he did a great job defensively down the stretch and Wagner only got loose when the game was essentially over.
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