And it begins: Jimmy Butler and others

[Crazy-Canuck]

Looks like LeGM is sitting out for a power play?

Hmmmm.... he wants to play with Steph, right?

Or hes involved in the pdiddy case

[Crazy-Canuck]

If the Warriors go big fish hunting, I go all in on AD. The Lakers can't blow it up, but need players.

Lakers get:

Dray, melton, gp2, jk, and tjd.

They get Brons bff, salary relief, and 2 young players.

Warriors get

AD, Christie, Hayes, Lewis, and bronny Jr. + whatever picks they want.

Contracts line up and no cap implications.

Steph/podz
Heild/christie
Wiggs/moody
AD/slomo
Loon/Hayes.

Schedule that parade.

[CDM_Stats]

Last thing on the Nets - DFS is not a PF, not in anyones system. He's a good on-ball defender and a passable 3pt shooter, but he's really not much of an asset, especially to this team. He would cost at least 2 current role players to acquire and one of them would be SloMo, Looney, or GP2, all of whom I'd prefer to him

He gets wide open looks from deep, and even then is a career 36% shooter on wide open 3s. Started off this year hot and thats great, but unlike Schroder has no history with tempo offenses, his only career success is just waiting for guys like Luka or Schroder to penetrate to the point where he eventually gets a stand-still wide open 3. Bad screen rate, bad boxout rate.. I dont know why he's being thrown out as a target. But to be fair I've seen Butler and Vucevic thrown out as targets too and I cant make much sense of those either.. the team cannot afford to waste assets on things that dont fit perfectly at this point. We're in the final stages... if the move isn't a no-brainer, dont make it. The team, and Kerr, havent proven that deserve that chance this year

[CDM_Stats]

If the Warriors go big fish hunting, I go all in on AD.

I'd love it but LeBron will only allow a trade where he comes out the winner and any trade where the Warriors get AD and Curry's still on the roster.. he's losing that deal

[Old_Blue]

Indiana is denying that it's "dangling" Myles Turner, but I wonder what their asking price would be. For a number of reasons, the Pacers might be less interested in Kuminga than in a package of an expiring contract like Looney and cost controlled young players like Moody, Podz and TJD. That would leave Melton and Kuminga still available to trade for other needs.

[Crazy-Canuck]

If the Warriors go big fish hunting, I go all in on AD.

I'd love it but LeBron will only allow a trade where he comes out the winner and any trade where the Warriors get AD and Curry's still on the roster.. he's losing that deal

Hence why I put dray instead of wiggins. Best friends forever and gets bronny out of his shadows, yet still in California. Maybe he can celebrate his son getting a ring.

[Onus]

Seriously a trade only helps if it changes who Kerr ends up closing with. If who we trade for doesn’t change who we close with then it’s just moving chairs on the titanic.

We can’t be closing with curry/gp/jk/dray/looney or any type of that lineup. Even if we replace Wiggins for one of gp/jk/looney that’s still not enough. So whomever we trade for has to fit in the closing lineup or remove one of those 3 players from closing.

[vvoland]

Indiana is denying that it's "dangling" Myles Turner, but I wonder what their asking price would be. For a number of reasons, the Pacers might be less interested in Kuminga than in a package of an expiring contract like Looney and cost controlled young players like Moody, Podz and TJD. That would leave Melton and Kuminga still available to trade for other needs.

Fingers crossed. I've wanted miles next to Steph, dray, wigs since before his extension. Tjd is an Indiana product and his pops played for the pacers. Podz is another Midwestern kid and the pacers tend to like white guys with intangibles. MDJ is another former pacer.

Pretty sure it can't get done without one of loon/gp2/Melton for salary purposes and id go with Melton. Curry, wigs, jk, dray, Turner is a lineup that has just enough shooting and the defense should be spectacular

Let's get it done!

[wco81]

He's okay but he's approaching 30 now and he never seemed like a great rebounder.

Despite his shot blocking, is he a good post defender? Seems like bigger centers are going to punish him on rebounding.

He had that elite year for blocks, averaging 3.4 blocks a game. But he was only 1.9 last season and 2.0 this season.

Interesting, he's an expiring $19.9 million contract.

Pacers would have to really be out of playoffs contention to trade Myles. They're off to a poor start but since they gave Hali and Siakam big contracts, they're not going to give up. They will probably see if Hali can regain his stroke before they'd consider moving him.

If the team did well enough, they'd probably re-sign him since they only have Obi to back him up and they just acquired Thomas Bryant.

I don't know if they're counting on Wiseman to come back from Achilles though he's a real cheap contract.

[Hoopstar23]

guys we got DS!!!

Read on Twitter

[vvoland]

He's okay but he's approaching 30 now and he never seemed like a great rebounder.

Despite his shot blocking, is he a good post defender? Seems like bigger centers are going to punish him on rebounding.

He had that elite year for blocks, averaging 3.4 blocks a game. But he was only 1.9 last season and 2.0 this season.

Interesting, he's an expiring $19.9 million contract.

Pacers would have to really be out of playoffs contention to trade Myles. They're off to a poor start but since they gave Hali and Siakam big contracts, they're not going to give up. They will probably see if Hali can regain his stroke before they'd consider moving him.

If the team did well enough, they'd probably re-sign him since they only have Obi to back him up and they just acquired Thomas Bryant.

I don't know if they're counting on Wiseman to come back from Achilles though he's a real cheap contract.

I think putting him next to wigs and especially dray will do a lot for the rebounding and post defense. With dray boxing out and playing free safety on defense, miles will have his weaknesses handled.

[tal57]

Finally, got DS
Melton and 3 2nd rounders and NJ one 2nd back.
I don't know if they'll do anything given Lacob infatuation with the star, but DS is an absolutely no doubt get for a simple reason.
GS has no PG beyond Curry, meaning they might as well send the second unit home on the game nights. He hopefully corrects that.
I would move Heidl into the starting unit since DS can score as well. My only concern is if JK continues to start, that leaves only Wiggins as the defender and that may not work. Maybe possible to move GP2 and Looney into starting lineup and have Shroder and Heidle for the potent scoring punch off the bench.

[DonaldSanders]

Seriously a trade only helps if it changes who Kerr ends up closing with. If who we trade for doesn’t change who we close with then it’s just moving chairs on the titanic.

We can’t be closing with curry/gp/jk/dray/looney or any type of that lineup. Even if we replace Wiggins for one of gp/jk/looney that’s still not enough. So whomever we trade for has to fit in the closing lineup or remove one of those 3 players from closing.

Yeah that's why I was willing to consider Butler, for closing. Hopefully Dennis helps enough with that closing unit, I assume he'll come off the bench and run the 2nd unit, then also close.

We could still trade Dennis but that seems unlikely given he'll probably be a good fit -- but it drastically lowers the chances that we trade for a star this year. I'm a little concerned we may end up paying JK 35 million (one report said we didn't want to include Kuminga in a Cam or DFS discussion), then Butler for 50 million will seem like a value.

[Onus]

Seriously a trade only helps if it changes who Kerr ends up closing with. If who we trade for doesn’t change who we close with then it’s just moving chairs on the titanic.

We can’t be closing with curry/gp/jk/dray/looney or any type of that lineup. Even if we replace Wiggins for one of gp/jk/looney that’s still not enough. So whomever we trade for has to fit in the closing lineup or remove one of those 3 players from closing.

Yeah that's why I was willing to consider Butler, for closing. Hopefully Dennis helps enough with that closing unit, I assume he'll come off the bench and run the 2nd unit, then also close.

We could still trade Dennis but that seems unlikely given he'll probably be a good fit -- but it drastically lowers the chances that we trade for a star this year. I'm a little concerned we may end up paying JK 35 million (one report said we didn't want to include Kuminga in a Cam or DFS discussion), then Butler for 50 million will seem like a value.

Hopefully they change their mind about jk by the deadline. Think they want to see what he looks as a starting pf.

Schroeder will help but he’s not going to have nearly as much space to work with. We’ll see how much he helps. Still want cam.

[CDM_Stats]

So the Butler stuff is dead right? As is the Vuc stuff, the Cam Johnson stuff, and all the other clickbait stuff

[wco81]

Schroeder and Curry in the closing lineup?

That’s awfully small.

Teams will try to find post up mismatches.

[CDM_Stats]

Schroeder and Curry in the closing lineup?

That’s awfully small.

Teams will try to find post up mismatches.

Good, its gone really well for the Warriors when teams do that

[Jester_]

it'll be limited minutes but steph / dennis / hield / wiggins / draymond are going to absolutely blitz some teams

[ILOVEIT]

Cam Johnson over Butler because Warriors get much better AND keep the future intact.
I can see Poole in Washington lobbying for Wiggins.....Net's might not want him.
Three way deal:
Kuzma to Nets plus first round pick
Wiggins to Wizards
Cameron Johnson to Warriors

OR

Kumgina, Klye Anderson, Pick to Nets for Cameron.

I think I prefer keeping Wiggins as a lock down defensive matchup against Luka etc.

[whatisacenter]

Hopefully trading Melton does three things.

1. The Warriors get Shroeder to replace Melton.

2. It ends the Jimmy Butler talk

3. It ends the Podz era.