2021 Draft Thread

[The-Power]

So it's been asked, but would you guys trade the 14th pick for say the Knicks 19th and 21st to draft two guys later in the draft like Duarte and Murphy or is that just way too many rookies?

I think any trade back the Warriors do will be for future picks.

Try to get back a pick to make up for the 1st rounder lost in the Iguodala salary dump (2024 1st rounder top 4 protected to Grizzlies).

Yeah, I'd be open to trading back if we don't like anyone a lot at 14 – but then I'd only draft one player and try to move the other one for a future asset. I just don't see us taking on three Rookies after already having a couple guys on Rookie deals on the roster for a season in which we are trying to win.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

What do you guys think of the Naismith Player of the Year: Luka Garza?

He'll probably be in the mid-2nd round to undrafted because he's a senior, a bit slow by today's standards, and will have trouble defending the perimeter and the low-post. But, I actually like his game and when the game starts to slow-down and can play the halfcourt game (aka NBA playoffs). Reminds me a bit of Jokic (without the superb passing skills) and David Lee (offensive post-ups).

[thunderdunk]

So it's been asked, but would you guys trade the 14th pick for say the Knicks 19th and 21st to draft two guys later in the draft like Duarte and Murphy or is that just way too many rookies?

I think any trade back the Warriors do will be for future picks.

Try to get back a pick to make up for the 1st rounder lost in the Iguodala salary dump (2024 1st rounder top 4 protected to Grizzlies).

Yeah, I'd be open to trading back if we don't like anyone a lot at 14 – but then I'd only draft one player and try to move the other one for a future asset. I just don't see us taking on three Rookies after already having a couple guys on Rookie deals on the roster for a season in which we are trying to win.

I can't imagine the Dubs not liking someone at 14 in this draft. The question IMO is, who do they like, and will he or they fall lower than 14? This draft has a LOT of intriguing players in it. I also don't see the Dubs picking more than 2 players in the first round. There's no room on this team for that many rookies. So if they trade down, at least one pick will need to be for a future year. And keep in mind that future drafts probably won't be as deep, so any future pick would need to at least have the possibility of being a top six. Otherwise, I'm excited about the number of potentially excellent players who should still be on the board at 14. For me, fingers crossed that Kispert falls that far. This should be fun to watch.

[HiRez]

The problem with Giddey is he's in-between our picks. He'd be a big reach at #7, but he's not likely to make it to #14 (Spurs probably grab him at 12 first).

I'm not nearly as down on Mitchell as many are. He's one of the most NBA-ready guys in the draft, which is what we should be looking for, and we need a few more guys with grit (or, as the article quote put it "the bulldog") and less finesse. Ever since guys like Bogut and West (and even Zaza) left, we've been somewhat lacking that. I advocated for picking Wiseman and I still think he'll be good, but it's pretty clear he's going to be more of a finesse guy than a bruiser.

With Jordan Poole off the bench, you're getting some points but you suffer defensively. We need a PG and defense off the bench and Mitchell fits the bill. I would definitely rather find a way to grab Suggs or Barnes, but if no one falls to 7, Mitchell would be a good pick there. The biggest concern I have with Mitchell is his FT%, however since he had excellent %s from both 2 and 3 last year, I'm confident he can improve that.

Keon is very intriguing but I just don't see how taking on another long-term project with mostly potential fits into the Warriors needs right now.

Kispert makes a lot of sense to me at 14 if he's there. Wouldn't take him at #7 but solid pick for mid first round.

[Scoots1994]

So it's been asked, but would you guys trade the 14th pick for say the Knicks 19th and 21st to draft two guys later in the draft like Duarte and Murphy or is that just way too many rookies?

I think any trade back the Warriors do will be for future picks.

Try to get back a pick to make up for the 1st rounder lost in the Iguodala salary dump (2024 1st rounder top 4 protected to Grizzlies).

The problem with that is trading a lottery pick for a future pick is generally a downgrade, and in particular this draft is deep in quality players so trading for a future pick is even worse value.

[Scoots1994]

The problem with Giddey is he's in-between our picks. He'd be a big reach at #7, but he's not likely to make it to #14 (Spurs probably grab him at 12 first).

I'm not nearly as down on Mitchell as many are. He's one of the most NBA-ready guys in the draft, which is what we should be looking for, and we need a few more guys with grit (or, as the article quote put it "the bulldog") and less finesse. Ever since guys like Bogut and West (and even Zaza) left, we've been somewhat lacking that. I advocated for picking Wiseman and I still think he'll be good, but it's pretty clear he's going to be more of a finesse guy than a bruiser.

With Jordan Poole off the bench, you're getting some points but you suffer defensively. We need a PG and defense off the bench and Mitchell fits the bill. I would definitely rather find a way to grab Suggs or Barnes, but if no one falls to 7, Mitchell would be a good pick there. The biggest concern I have with Mitchell is his FT%, however since he had excellent %s from both 2 and 3 last year, I'm confident he can improve that.

Keon is very intriguing but I just don't see how taking on another long-term project with mostly potential fits into the Warriors needs right now.

Kispert makes a lot of sense to me at 14 if he's there. Wouldn't take him at #7 but solid pick for mid first round.

I think the odds of one of the top 6 falling to the Warriors is relatively small, but I think one of the players we like falling to them at 14 is certain.

It's kind of amazing to look at the list of players in this draft from 7 to 20 and the talent there. The problem is figuring out how the rest of the NBA values them. Don't want to take Zaire at 7 if no other teams like him above 14, don't want to wait for 14 for the top guy on the board when you are on the clock at 7 either.

[Mylie10]

What do you guys think of the Naismith Player of the Year: Luka Garza?

He'll probably be in the mid-2nd round to undrafted because he's a senior, a bit slow by today's standards, and will have trouble defending the perimeter and the low-post. But, I actually like his game and when the game starts to slow-down and can play the halfcourt game (aka NBA playoffs). Reminds me a bit of Jokic (without the superb passing skills) and David Lee (offensive post-ups).

I’d love him as a productive player picked in the second round.

He doesn’t fit today’s nba big man, but for a second rounder he’s a great pickup. Not trying to say the Warriors would buy a second to get it done.

[Jester_]

How do you guys feel about Chris Duarte? I don't understand why he's being mocked so low (late first round, have seen him in some 2nd round mocks). He's a rich man's Brogdon waiting to happen

[mos_def]

How do you guys feel about Chris Duarte? I don't understand why he's being mocked so low (late first round, have seen him in some 2nd round mocks). He's a rich man's Brogdon waiting to happen

It's his age...and bad passing but mainly his age. I like tho

[whatisacenter]

How do you guys feel about Chris Duarte? I don't understand why he's being mocked so low (late first round, have seen him in some 2nd round mocks). He's a rich man's Brogdon waiting to happen

He is an excellent shooter but he might be one of the worst passers I have seen. He might play just enough D to be able to stay on the court. I like him but ultimately I think 14 is too high for him.

[Jester_]

How do you guys feel about Chris Duarte? I don't understand why he's being mocked so low (late first round, have seen him in some 2nd round mocks). He's a rich man's Brogdon waiting to happen

It's his age...and bad passing but mainly his age. I like tho

Yeah I get it but... maybe I'm biased as a Canuck but his game is so polished. His shot is ridiculous and he's got enough size and grit to hang in the league. I don't see how he's anything less than a good 6th man.

[shazam_guy]

BPA usually means long-term potential over short-term or fit. I see people saying, "have to take BPA at #7" and wonder if any of them are the same people who've been complaining about Wiseman not being ready in his first year.

Or are you using BPA differently?

[CS707]

How do you guys feel about Chris Duarte? I don't understand why he's being mocked so low (late first round, have seen him in some 2nd round mocks). He's a rich man's Brogdon waiting to happen

I actually like him quite a bit for us. Doesn’t need the ball in his hands much to make an impact.

[wco81]

Does Duarte have the dog in him like Dillon Brooks, another Oregon alum?

[whatisacenter]

How do you guys feel about Chris Duarte? I don't understand why he's being mocked so low (late first round, have seen him in some 2nd round mocks). He's a rich man's Brogdon waiting to happen

I actually like him quite a bit for us. Doesn’t need the ball in his hands much to make an impact.

I like Trey Murphy III more than Duarte and Kispert at pick 14. He shoots the 3 with volume at a high level and is a long perimeter defender.

[wco81]

Bouknight moving up helps the Warriors but you wouldn't think they'd draft him because he's not a good fit for the roster.

[lars_rosenberg]

Bouknight moving up helps the Warriors but you wouldn't think they'd draft him because he's not a good fit for the roster.

It's good if a team above us falls in love with him, which means either Kuminga or Barnes will be available at 7. Otherwise I'm all in for Moody at 7 and a high upside player at 14. I like many players in this draft so #14 will depend on who's available. Giddey, Sengun, Kispert, Mitchell etc... they are all good at 14.

[Scoots1994]

I can see the talent in Bouknight, Kispert, and Duarte but I'm not sold on the upside.

I'd like to go BPA (best player potential available?) at 7 and lean toward more production with 14.

[ChuckDurn]

I can see the talent in Bouknight, Kispert, and Duarte but I'm not sold on the upside.

I'd like to go BPA (best player potential available?) at 7 and lean toward more production with 14.

Interestingly, I see Bouknight as very different than Kispert and Duarte in this discussion.

With Kispert and Duarte, you've got players who are older, had very efficient statistics in college, and you expect that you can plug them in fairly quickly into productive roles on a team. But the trade-off is that their ceiling is pretty low - either or both might become a quality starter in the league, but neither one is perceived as a guy who could become a star (or All-Star).

Conversely, Bouknight is a guy who showed flashes, but was inconsistent and with inefficient stats. However, he has the type of game and athletic potential that if he puts it together, can become a star in the league. (Note the presence of "if" in that sentence.) You know that he's going to come in and be inefficient for a couple of seasons, and any gratification will be delayed, probably for at least a couple of years. But he has much higher potential to be a star. (Or, alternately, a bust.)

[whatisacenter]

for a while the top 5 of the draft was in no order:

Cade
Mobley
Green
Suggs
Kuminga

I am now seeing Kuminga dropping to 7 on some big boards. Do you see two players jumping ahead of him into the top six and if you do, which ones? Would you pull the trigger and take him at 7, pick another player or trade the pick?