Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft

[KevinMcreynolds]

yeah, technically Barnes at 7 is a good pick but he'll never be remembered for anything but blowing the 2016 finals

[GS Warriors 1]

In and out of this board, but just want to state that he's been really impressive. It's been obvious how much work he's put into his shot. An explosive driver to the rim, combined with the possibility of being a good 3-point shooter is a lethal combination. He has a chance to be a great defender, too. Feel like he's going to be seen as someone who should've been a top 3 pick, maybe even higher, when people look back in a few years and do one of those re-draft exercises.

[KevinMcreynolds]

the best part is he's only 19 and he's already bullying people

hopefully Wiseman can take a page out of his book

[TB]

I know Randle and Mitchell abused all of our bigs, but overall that was pretty impressive from Kuminga. Randle was VERY locked in and aggressive, and Kuminga held his own and kept at it. But what was most impressive is just the fact that he was our best attempt at slowing Randle down, while also switching onto Kemba effectively as well. He's the very rare player that has a chance to guard all 5 positions effectively.

[Badly Browned]

Give Kuminga a year or two to build on his base and core for the bruisers and to understand footwork and angles for the quick guys and he's got DPoY potential. Pretty exciting.

[tarantism]

2/3 from deep, 5/6 from the line and +8 in 36 minutes. He's already here and he I'd only getting better. I really believe they knocked it out of the park here.

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[tarantism]

As of today, of the players drafted ahead of Kuminga, I would still rather have Kuminga than Jalen Green or Suggs.

Can't comment on Giddey as I never imagined that he would be selected ahead of Kuminga, but then he looks pretty good in OKC.

#7 has been pretty good for us, and I think people are too harsh on Barnes. He did well I believe. It could have been way worse. We went to the Finals twice and won 1 ring with him as a top 5-6 rotation guy (starting SF, replaced by Iguodala in the death lineup). All that while on a rookie deal. I couldn't have asked for more.

I'd only trade him for Mobley, and that's only because we currently have a bigger need at C. Kuminga has a muuuch higher ceiling though.

The big thing about Mobley that I've seen is that bigger, stronger players bully him in the paint. I'm sure he'll bulk up as he ages but he's way too frail to be a full time 5 right now.

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[thunderdunk]

Kuminga is showing a tremendous ability to develop his game quickly on both ends. I wasn't excited when he was picked, but I am now. He's adding a three to his ability to power drive to the hoop, improved his FT shooting, and looks good on defense -- just impressive overall. Would love to see Iggy play more with him -- if Iggy can get and stay healthy. Same with Draymond. Dubs could become Lob City, especially if Wiseman comes back healthy. -- Which just highlights the health question -- Draymond, Iggy, and Wiseman. And that's if nobody else gets hurt between now and the playoffs...

[B-King]

Kuminga rapid development has been phenomenal. Warriors will have a big problem next year figuring out who's minutes he takes.

[HiRez]

Kuminga rapid development has been phenomenal. Warriors will have a big problem next year figuring out who's minutes he takes.

Maybe, but if the wheels start falling off our main guys he may have it easy finding minutes. Next year all of Kuminga, Wiseman, and Moody should be playing regular minutes (probably in that order as far as how many). If Kuminga keeps up his development pace it's not impossible he'll be ahead of anyone outside our big 3 in the depth chart. You can argue he's already more valuable on the floor than guys like JTA and Bjelica (and Wiseman if he were playing), next year he could be more valuable than OPJ, Iguodala, Looney (at least situationally).

[and1GS]

Kuminga rapid development has been phenomenal. Warriors will have a big problem next year figuring out who's minutes he takes.

Maybe, but if the wheels start falling off our main guys he may have it easy finding minutes. Next year all of Kuminga, Wiseman, and Moody should be playing regular minutes (probably in that order as far as how many). If Kuminga keeps up his development pace it's not impossible he'll be ahead of anyone outside our big 3 in the depth chart. You can argue he's already more valuable on the floor than guys like JTA and Bjelica (and Wiseman if he were playing), next year he could be more valuable than OPJ, Iguodala, Looney (at least situationally).

I'd also imagine we would take early season resting of our core guys more seriously instead of going with the everybody sits out or all of them play approach we used the first 30 games. His minutes will be there, but he needs to continue improving as a rebounder (he's already made great strides there) especially if Wiseman stats creeping toward 20 mpg and remains a horrendous rebounder. I like the guy, but just being realistic.

[ILOVEIT]

The next step for Kuminga is getting on the offensive boards. He's super athletic but he doesn't seem to want to get into it on the glass. Warriors need at least one guy that can cause havoc make a difference crashing the boards.

[clyde21]

Kuminga rapid development has been phenomenal. Warriors will have a big problem next year figuring out who's minutes he takes.

easy, JTA's 15 mins + his 13 mins, that's at least 28 mins per, some of Bjelica's, should be able to get 30 mins no problem.

[SpreeChokeJob]

The next step for Kuminga is getting on the offensive boards. He's super athletic but he doesn't seem to want to get into it on the glass. Warriors need at least one guy that can cause havoc make a difference crashing the boards.

Offensively he does pretty well grabbing his own boards. Defensive rebounding, he's pretty terrible to be honest. Very poor anticipation, in fact none at all. It's like he is learning to walk or opening his eyes for the first time. I blame his prior coaches for not providing any guidance.

Those multiple offensive rebounds from the other team during this couple game stretch is partly on him and also on some other teammates as well. It's going to take time before he acquires the skills to rebound well. But given how he has come up to speed so quickly, anything he picks up is playing with house money at this point. No one expected him to be where he is at this point.

[tarantism]

The next step for Kuminga is getting on the offensive boards. He's super athletic but he doesn't seem to want to get into it on the glass. Warriors need at least one guy that can cause havoc make a difference crashing the boards.

Offensively he does pretty well grabbing his own boards. Defensive rebounding, he's pretty terrible to be honest. Very poor anticipation, in fact none at all. It's like he is learning to walk or opening his eyes for the first time. I blame his prior coaches for not providing any guidance.

Those multiple offensive rebounds from the other team during this couple game stretch is partly on him and also on some other teammates as well. It's going to take time before he acquires the skills to rebound well. But given how he has come up to speed so quickly, anything he picks up is playing with house money at this point. No one expected him to be where he is at this point.

I think that even if he had Looney-esq anticipation he would struggle to deal with guys like Robinson and Whiteside on the inside. They are just so much bigger than him.

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[SpreeChokeJob]

The next step for Kuminga is getting on the offensive boards. He's super athletic but he doesn't seem to want to get into it on the glass. Warriors need at least one guy that can cause havoc make a difference crashing the boards.

Offensively he does pretty well grabbing his own boards. Defensive rebounding, he's pretty terrible to be honest. Very poor anticipation, in fact none at all. It's like he is learning to walk or opening his eyes for the first time. I blame his prior coaches for not providing any guidance.

Those multiple offensive rebounds from the other team during this couple game stretch is partly on him and also on some other teammates as well. It's going to take time before he acquires the skills to rebound well. But given how he has come up to speed so quickly, anything he picks up is playing with house money at this point. No one expected him to be where he is at this point.

I think that even if he had Looney-esq anticipation he would struggle to deal with guys like Robinson and Whiteside on the inside. They are just so much bigger than him.

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Just reviewed some tape and it's not the opponents bigs that affecting his rebounds. The ball just bounces off the rim and into his hands and then off somewhere else like he was not expecting it. His anticipation for rebounding is at this point on the lower scale. Compared to Porter, Curry, and GP2. Halliburton who I wanted from trade also sees things far ahead of other players. He is making more effort to box out though.

But he is already ahead of schedule. At this point he plays more like a three and that is more his natural position going forward. He is strong, but not in the same level of Draymond with dealing with opposing bigs. Initially I thought he could take on Draymond's role, but I don't think he will be able to. Draymond is truly one of a kind for his abilities.

From looking at Wiseman, he is very far behind. All practice videos show him doing conditioning and offensive drills which is understandable due to no contact. I really don't think Wiseman will be up to speed defensively by the time playoffs arrive. He wasn't even that great before injury. They really have to consider all bigs available for acquisition to make things close in the postseason. No telling what Curry they are going to get. No reason in giving extra possessions to the opposition.

[Old_Blue]

Kuminga rapid development has been phenomenal. Warriors will have a big problem next year figuring out who's minutes he takes.

Within the next year, Kuminga is going to squeeze out Wiggins. This will not be due to any failing on Wiggins' part. The culprit will be the luxury tax. The team is already committed to $170+ million in salary next year, not including an extension for Looney. The following year, assuming an extension for Wiggins and an extension for Poole, the payroll would go to $200+ million. Over a three year period, the team would project to shell out over $500 million dollars in luxury tax. That's not a sustainable position for a team that is carrying $800 million in debt, is currently losing money, has already sold a 5% stake to raise capital and currently has minority owners trying to sell their stakes. Whether Wiggins is traded or is simply allowed to resign elsewhere is yet to be seen. Either way, Kuminga will slide into the #4 spot at approximately $25 million less per year than Wiggins, resulting in a luxury tax savings to the team of over $100 million per year.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/01/golden-state-warriors-investors-look-to-sell-stake/

[GunnerWRX]

yeah, technically Barnes at 7 is a good pick but he'll never be remembered for anything but blowing the 2016 finals

For me, losing in 2016 was all Draymond. I'm surprised that some blame Barnes for that.

[Frozzy]

yeah, technically Barnes at 7 is a good pick but he'll never be remembered for anything but blowing the 2016 finals

For me, losing in 2016 was all Draymond. I'm surprised that some blame Barnes for that.

Barnes shot 35% from the field, 31% from 3 all while being Tony Allen'd by the Cavaliers. He hits a few wide open shots and that 73 win team is not remembered as the biggest collapse in Finals history. Harrison Barnes got locked up by a ghost. Oh and he turned a contract offer from the Warriors prior that. So Warrior fans are gonna feel a certain way about him.

The Draymond suspension was BS and he was the only one who showed up in game 7.

[GunnerWRX]

yeah, technically Barnes at 7 is a good pick but he'll never be remembered for anything but blowing the 2016 finals

For me, losing in 2016 was all Draymond. I'm surprised that some blame Barnes for that.

Barnes shot 35% from the field, 31% from 3 all while being Tony Allen'd by the Cavaliers. He hits a few wide open shots and that 73 win team is not remembered as the biggest collapse in Finals history. Harrison Barnes got locked up by a ghost. Oh and he turned a contract offer from the Warriors prior that. So Warrior fans are gonna feel a certain way about him.

The Draymond suspension was BS and he was the only one who showed up in game 7.

There would have been no game 7 had Draymond not fallen to LeBron's t-bag bait. What's the point of playing a good Game 7 when you screwed the whole team up when we were up 3-1?

It is as hypothetical that Barnes playing better would've won the series.

Anyway, it is water under the bridge. Whatever happened, happened. Just saying many, myself included, feel Draymond was more responsible than other players for losing the 2016 ring, than Harrison Barnes - the 6-7th most important player on that team. How convenient it is to blame the 6-7th dude when the star **** the bed?

Anyway, I will leave it at that because this is a Kuminga thread.