More Free Agent Talk

[wco81]

I'm sure he's opted out but I never heard that DDV opted out.

Now, it's not clear how much these role player free agents might get this summer.

Not too many teams with big cap space and they may not be looking to fill it with $10-12 million a year players.

This might be the last chance for the Warriors to sign a non minimum vet for awhile. The second apron restrictions kick in for the 2024-25 season, I believe.

[Onus]

I'm sure he's opted out but I never heard that DDV opted out.

Now, it's not clear how much these role player free agents might get this summer.

Not too many teams with big cap space and they may not be looking to fill it with $10-12 million a year players.

This might be the last chance for the Warriors to sign a non minimum vet for awhile. The second apron restrictions kick in for the 2024-25 season, I believe.

I think I saw the knicks were interested but no official he's opted out yet. But nothing is really official yet ...

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Jake Fischer / Tue, Jun 27, 2023

"With Washington currently holding 16 players on guaranteed contracts, the Wizards are also expected to come to a buyout agreement with Danilo Gallinari, acquired in the Porzingis trade, clearing the way for the veteran scorer to find a home with a playoff contender."

Should the Warriors make a run at him?

[wco81]

Jake Fischer / Tue, Jun 27, 2023

"With Washington currently holding 16 players on guaranteed contracts, the Wizards are also expected to come to a buyout agreement with Danilo Gallinari, acquired in the Porzingis trade, clearing the way for the veteran scorer to find a home with a playoff contender."

Should the Warriors make a run at him?

Sure but I wouldn't expect him to contribute significantly, especially by the playoffs.

Same as CP3.

If he can, it would be a bonus.

Same with CP3.

The other thing is, are they planning to bring back Iggy?

Because then you have 3 older/injury-prone players. Kerr tried to save Iggy for the playoffs but unfortunately he got injured just as he was getting in game shape.

I don't know if they have the luxury of carrying 3 players that they have to baby through the season. And Steph is reaching that age too, he's missed big parts of seasons because they're going to be more brittle in their mid 30s.

[Onus]

Jake Fischer / Tue, Jun 27, 2023

"With Washington currently holding 16 players on guaranteed contracts, the Wizards are also expected to come to a buyout agreement with Danilo Gallinari, acquired in the Porzingis trade, clearing the way for the veteran scorer to find a home with a playoff contender."

Should the Warriors make a run at him?

Would love Gallinari - could be on the opj plan of just maintenance all year which would allow JK a lot of minutes in the regular season

[xdrta+]

The other thing is, are they planning to bring back Iggy?

When he signed last season Iggy stated pretty firmly that was his last year. I haven't seen anything different since then, but who knows.

[Twinkie defense]

“There's a concern from other teams that everybody is going to go to Phoenix before anywhere else, because of playing time. A chance to win and playing time,” John Gambadoro said on Arizona Sports 98.7 FM

Waaaaah! Players don't want to come to my team! Waaaaah! We need a new rule to force players to choose my team!

[killmongrel]

Jake Fischer / Tue, Jun 27, 2023

"With Washington currently holding 16 players on guaranteed contracts, the Wizards are also expected to come to a buyout agreement with Danilo Gallinari, acquired in the Porzingis trade, clearing the way for the veteran scorer to find a home with a playoff contender."

Should the Warriors make a run at him?

Sure but I wouldn't expect him to contribute significantly, especially by the playoffs.

Same as CP3.

If he can, it would be a bonus.

Same with CP3.

The other thing is, are they planning to bring back Iggy?

Because then you have 3 older/injury-prone players. Kerr tried to save Iggy for the playoffs but unfortunately he got injured just as he was getting in game shape.

I don't know if they have the luxury of carrying 3 players that they have to baby through the season. And Steph is reaching that age too, he's missed big parts of seasons because they're going to be more brittle in their mid 30s.

I think there is zero chance Iggy is back. They drafted two rooks. If they wanted to waste space on the main roster, I don't think they would have done that. Iggy is done.

With only 3 spots on the roster left, assuming they leave the 15th open, the Warriors still have a lot of needs to fill. Getting bigger and better spacing on the front court. And possibly another wing and/or ball handler.

[CDM_Stats]

Jake Fischer / Tue, Jun 27, 2023

"With Washington currently holding 16 players on guaranteed contracts, the Wizards are also expected to come to a buyout agreement with Danilo Gallinari, acquired in the Porzingis trade, clearing the way for the veteran scorer to find a home with a playoff contender."

Should the Warriors make a run at him?

Sure but I wouldn't expect him to contribute significantly, especially by the playoffs.

Same as CP3.

If he can, it would be a bonus.

Same with CP3.

The other thing is, are they planning to bring back Iggy?

Because then you have 3 older/injury-prone players. Kerr tried to save Iggy for the playoffs but unfortunately he got injured just as he was getting in game shape.

I don't know if they have the luxury of carrying 3 players that they have to baby through the season. And Steph is reaching that age too, he's missed big parts of seasons because they're going to be more brittle in their mid 30s.

I think there is zero chance Iggy is back. They drafted two rooks. If they wanted to waste space on the main roster, I don't think they would have done that. Iggy is done.

With only 3 spots on the roster left, assuming they leave the 15th open, the Warriors still have a lot of needs to fill. Getting bigger and better spacing on the front court. And possibly another wing and/or ball handler.

Also Iguodala retired earlier this offseason, a significant hurdle

[tarantism]

The Dubs Talk guys brought up Andre Drummond. He wouldn't be my first pick, but he would probably be a decent fit. Brings rebounding, some size and underrated passing.

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[TrueFan420]

The system didn’t massively shift. The year before the last championship we had Bell, Chriss, Paschall, Smiley and Wise along with Dray and Loon. We kept pushing off getting another C the year of cause they were hopeful Wise would be heathy. We went with Dray, Loon and Belly while waiting on Wise. They then hoped he’d be right this year and went with Dray, Loon, J.Green and Wise until the deadline. Then many felt we should add a C and Kerr didn’t cause we manage to get by the year before short handed. So yea, he did grow into it and we changed our personnel around him taking a larger role as we didn’t hunt for as many vets (Zaha, West, Bogut, McGee, Festus) and started gambling on young guys.

They system isn’t different Loon just has a bigger piece of it. It doesn’t require less size. Last year for half the season and the year before because of an injury is the only time we didn’t carry at least 4 players that can play the 5.

It absolutely did, cmon man. You think the same system where we had Zaza and McGee in drop coverage, in switch/recover, is the same as switch/stay? We went with switch/stay primarily because we didnt want to bog down the defense with these tall stiffs like in the past.. which played directly to Looney's strengths. With versatility and mismatches now a key component of the system on both sides for the C position, Looney has thrived. Its no coincidence that his rebounding numbers spiked last year..

And yes, the year prior to the title we weren't sure of the defensive identity. The year after we pivoted to switch/stay permanently, we were the #1 ranked defense. It requires quickness, which is what you typically get with less size. You can get a 7' who can be in the system if they are quick enough, but how many are? And of those, how many are smart enough to thrive in the system?

To just call it growing in the system is missing a huge amount of context. The system changed to accommodate Looney, Draymond and Wiggins' strengths. I dont even see how that's debatable

I’m done with the convo… this is circular. We have more than enough roster spots to accommodate 2 more big men in the roster. We will see what they do.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Harden for 1 year on a vet minimum.

We are getting Chris Paul a ring; might as well get Harden a ring too.

We still need a back up center. Get Dwight Howard his ring too.

[whatisacenter]

Harden for 1 year on a vet minimum.

We are getting Chris Paul a ring; might as well get Harden a ring too.

We still need a back up center. Get Dwight Howard his ring too.

Silly post and Dwight already got his ring although it was in the bubble so you might have forgotten.

[DAWill1128]

Would love Gallinari, we are like the only team in the NBA with one frontcourt guy who can shoot the ball in Wiggins. Biggest reason Steph and Klay have to work so hard for buckets. This team could be totally different, elevated with better frontcourt shooting.

[Onus]

I'm sure he's opted out but I never heard that DDV opted out.

Now, it's not clear how much these role player free agents might get this summer.

Not too many teams with big cap space and they may not be looking to fill it with $10-12 million a year players.

This might be the last chance for the Warriors to sign a non minimum vet for awhile. The second apron restrictions kick in for the 2024-25 season, I believe.

Kawakami in his latest article confirms that DDV opted out

DiVincenzo has declined his player option for the coming season

[TB]

Donte was going to opt out regardless, right?

Even to stay with Warriors I'd assume he opts out, then signs a new 1+1 for the 120% of around 5.4m instead of the 4.7m opt in he had. Plus he could add a player option for a 2nd year to protect himself in case of an awful season or crazy injury.

This isn't to say I think he will be a Warrior, he's almost surely going somewhere for closer to 10m.... but just saying this was more a formality I believe.

Lastly, it is insane that free agency is about to start and we still don't know if we have use of the TPMLE or 3rd two-way slot this summer...

EDIT - actually Dun Jr mentioned only having vet min's available. So wether its because of CBA or lux tax concerns, my guess is we are working with 3 vet mins to come... a center, probably Jerome, and hopefully a BPA not named Anthony Lamb. Quinones, Santos, Johnson the likely 2ways. Maybe Quinones can sneak into that 14th BPA spot.

Steph / CP3 / FA
Klay / GP2 / Podz
Wiggins / Moody / FA
Dray / Kuminga
Loon / FA / Trayce

[Onus]

Donte was going to opt out regardless, right?

Even to stay with Warriors I'd assume he opts out, then signs a new 1+1 for the 120% of around 5.4m instead of the 4.7m opt in he had. Plus he could add a player option for a 2nd year to protect himself in case of an awful season or crazy injury.

This isn't to say I think he will be a Warrior, he's almost surely going somewhere for closer to 10m.... but just saying this was more a formality I believe.

Lastly, it is insane that free agency is about to start and we still don't know if we have use of the TPMLE or 3rd two-way slot this summer...

EDIT - actually Dun Jr mentioned only having vet min's available. So wether its because of CBA or lux tax concerns, my guess is we are working with 3 vet mins to come... a center, probably Jerome, and hopefully a BPA not named Anthony Lamb. Quinones, Santos, Johnson the likely 2ways. Maybe Quinones can sneak into that 14th BPA spot.

Steph / CP3 / FA
Klay / GP2 / Podz
Wiggins / Moody / FA
Dray / Kuminga
Loon / FA / Trayce

We don't have DDV's bird rights so I don't think we can offer him more. We can only offer him the vet min now I believe.

[CDM_Stats]

Donte was going to opt out regardless, right?

Even to stay with Warriors I'd assume he opts out, then signs a new 1+1 for the 120% of around 5.4m instead of the 4.7m opt in he had. Plus he could add a player option for a 2nd year to protect himself in case of an awful season or crazy injury.

This isn't to say I think he will be a Warrior, he's almost surely going somewhere for closer to 10m.... but just saying this was more a formality I believe.

Lastly, it is insane that free agency is about to start and we still don't know if we have use of the TPMLE or 3rd two-way slot this summer...

EDIT - actually Dun Jr mentioned only having vet min's available. So wether its because of CBA or lux tax concerns, my guess is we are working with 3 vet mins to come... a center, probably Jerome, and hopefully a BPA not named Anthony Lamb. Quinones, Santos, Johnson the likely 2ways. Maybe Quinones can sneak into that 14th BPA spot.

Steph / CP3 / FA
Klay / GP2 / Podz
Wiggins / Moody / FA
Dray / Kuminga
Loon / FA / Trayce

We don't have DDV's bird rights so I don't think we can offer him more. We can only offer him the vet min now I believe.

There are 2 kinds of bird rights, and I'm not sure the 120 rule is part of those.. but IIRC, you can start non-bird retainees at 120% of their former salary

Not that it matters, DDV is gone for sure, but if he did want to challenge for minutes with Podz and CP3, he could

[CDM_Stats]

Lastly, it is insane that free agency is about to start and we still don't know if we have use of the TPMLE or 3rd two-way slot this summer...

EDIT - actually Dun Jr mentioned only having vet min's available. So wether its because of CBA or lux tax concerns, my guess is we are working with 3 vet mins to come... a center, probably Jerome, and hopefully a BPA not named Anthony Lamb. Quinones, Santos, Johnson the likely 2ways. Maybe Quinones can sneak into that 14th BPA spot.

Steph / CP3 / FA
Klay / GP2 / Podz
Wiggins / Moody / FA
Dray / Kuminga
Loon / FA / Trayce

I'm 90/10 in believing that we dont have it.. I keep hearing that the 2nd apron doesn't really kick in until next season, though that could easily be fan miscommunication. IE the 2nd apron actually kicks in this year, but because the severe penalties dont kick in until you're a repeat offender twice in 4 years, the idea may have got 'telephoned' a bit

IDK. I'm just gonna assume the worst on everything and be happily surprised if not. Operating under the assumption that we only have minimum contracts to offer, that re-signing Dray makes all our picks #30 until 2032, and that re-signing Klay means all Warrior fans have to pick up litter on highways on the weekends

This CBA is just so needlessly extra.. just make a legit hardcap and call it a day

[wco81]

Donte was going to opt out regardless, right?

Even to stay with Warriors I'd assume he opts out, then signs a new 1+1 for the 120% of around 5.4m instead of the 4.7m opt in he had. Plus he could add a player option for a 2nd year to protect himself in case of an awful season or crazy injury.

This isn't to say I think he will be a Warrior, he's almost surely going somewhere for closer to 10m.... but just saying this was more a formality I believe.

Lastly, it is insane that free agency is about to start and we still don't know if we have use of the TPMLE or 3rd two-way slot this summer...

EDIT - actually Dun Jr mentioned only having vet min's available. So wether its because of CBA or lux tax concerns, my guess is we are working with 3 vet mins to come... a center, probably Jerome, and hopefully a BPA not named Anthony Lamb. Quinones, Santos, Johnson the likely 2ways. Maybe Quinones can sneak into that 14th BPA spot.

Steph / CP3 / FA
Klay / GP2 / Podz
Wiggins / Moody / FA
Dray / Kuminga
Loon / FA / Trayce

Even if they had a TPMLE, Lacob may not want to pay it unless they can get someone way below his normal market value.