Free Agent Talk

[ChuckDurn]

I think Paschall and Bey would be a real nice balance of skills at the backup forwards.

Yep.

[Mylie10]

Plus they’re both Jay Wright Villanova guys, so you can trust they’ve been coached well.

[Scoots1994]

Not a fan of a player that has been shipped off from a number of teams. He appears like the perfect modern day center but he's getting dumped by teams that aren't that great... And these same teams have gotten better AFTER his departure.

Noel's drive is supect, he's had some significant injury issues, and he's resisted putting on muscle mass. I think his ACL kind of broke his confidence down.

Still, he's done enough to be worth a shot at a vet min contract. He was much better than average with OKC when healthy and given a chance. And he's still young.

He’s an exceptional defensive player, but that’s about it. He’s a guy you look at, at the very end of free agency

He can finish on offense, but nothing else really. I don't know about "the very end" but he's not the first call.

[jason bourne]

By the way Adonal....that video was whack! Lol

Link: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAxNDA4NDk1MQ==&mid=2650244786&idx=1&sn=4889db77a556fb75547cb8bfa4df9ce6&chksm=839b988ab4ec119c27b02ece15c8e357ebec13c99b7020997e5f10761b4ef94f24098a42b7e4&mpshare=1&

Take it for however way you see it, but I called this should/if they pursue him. Guess I may know more about what's going on than most of you.

The Warriors need to put butts in seats at Chase, so they'll grab Linsanity. If they can sell a bunch of season tickets, then they may be able to use their TPE on one of these BIG guys. I didn't know there were so many becoming free agents. There are the pipe dreams and there are the cheapies. Can one use the TPE for sign-and-trade or extend-and-trade?

I'll list the cheapies here:
"Paul Millsap, Denver Nuggets (unrestricted)
Carmelo Anthony, Portland Trail Blazers (unrestricted)
Dario Saric, Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Bobby Portis, New York Knicks (team option)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Toronto Raptors (unrestricted)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings (player option)
JaMychal Green, LA Clippers (player option)"

Pipe dreams:
Anthony Davis
Danillo Gallinari
Davis Bertans
Jerami Grant
Marcus Morris

Sign-And-Trades May Dominate 2020 NBA Free Agency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2020/05/06/sign-and-trades-may-dominate-2020-nba-free-agency/#4d6cddb54ed5

[ChuckDurn]

By the way Adonal....that video was whack! Lol

Link: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAxNDA4NDk1MQ==&mid=2650244786&idx=1&sn=4889db77a556fb75547cb8bfa4df9ce6&chksm=839b988ab4ec119c27b02ece15c8e357ebec13c99b7020997e5f10761b4ef94f24098a42b7e4&mpshare=1&

Take it for however way you see it, but I called this should/if they pursue him. Guess I may know more about what's going on than most of you.

The Warriors need to put butts in seats at Chase, so they'll grab Linsanity. If they can sell a bunch of season tickets, then they may be able to use their TPE on one of these BIG guys. I didn't know there were so many becoming free agents. There are the pipe dreams and there are the cheapies. Can one use the TPE for sign-and-trade or extend-and-trade?

I'll list the cheapies here:
"Paul Millsap, Denver Nuggets (unrestricted)
Carmelo Anthony, Portland Trail Blazers (unrestricted)
Dario Saric, Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Bobby Portis, New York Knicks (team option)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Toronto Raptors (unrestricted)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings (player option)
JaMychal Green, LA Clippers (player option)"

Pipe dreams:
Anthony Davis
Danillo Gallinari
Davis Bertans
Jerami Grant
Marcus Morris

Sign-And-Trades May Dominate 2020 NBA Free Agency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2020/05/06/sign-and-trades-may-dominate-2020-nba-free-agency/#4d6cddb54ed5

You really think that the Warriors need Lin to sell out Chase Center, and put butts in the seats? Really?

I mean.... come on, man.

Whether they sign him or not will have nothing to do with ticket sales or attendance next year. Literally nothing. If they think he is the best option to help them win games, they will pursue him. That’s it.

Sheesh. “Breathtaking” is the most accurate word for this.

[wco81]

Winning is what is going to make people buy those expensive tickets.

Will they lower prices after a miserable season and covid?

Don't they have dynamic prices? Or is that only for aftermarket tickets on Ticketmaster and the like?

[Commodor]

Seems a lot of rumors in free agency is that GSW is going after ball handlers and big men. MCW, Dwight, Lin.

Would makes sense, they want some vets to anchor the paint and handle the ball.

If that holds it would seem that drafting a wing as the next step.

[Scoots1994]

By the way Adonal....that video was whack! Lol

Link: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAxNDA4NDk1MQ==&mid=2650244786&idx=1&sn=4889db77a556fb75547cb8bfa4df9ce6&chksm=839b988ab4ec119c27b02ece15c8e357ebec13c99b7020997e5f10761b4ef94f24098a42b7e4&mpshare=1&

Take it for however way you see it, but I called this should/if they pursue him. Guess I may know more about what's going on than most of you.

The Warriors need to put butts in seats at Chase, so they'll grab Linsanity. If they can sell a bunch of season tickets, then they may be able to use their TPE on one of these BIG guys. I didn't know there were so many becoming free agents. There are the pipe dreams and there are the cheapies. Can one use the TPE for sign-and-trade or extend-and-trade?

I'll list the cheapies here:
"Paul Millsap, Denver Nuggets (unrestricted)
Carmelo Anthony, Portland Trail Blazers (unrestricted)
Dario Saric, Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Bobby Portis, New York Knicks (team option)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Toronto Raptors (unrestricted)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings (player option)
JaMychal Green, LA Clippers (player option)"

Pipe dreams:
Anthony Davis
Danillo Gallinari
Davis Bertans
Jerami Grant
Marcus Morris

Sign-And-Trades May Dominate 2020 NBA Free Agency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2020/05/06/sign-and-trades-may-dominate-2020-nba-free-agency/#4d6cddb54ed5

The Warriors can't really use a sign and trade. They can but they won't because it hard-caps them and that would be capital B Bad.

Gallinari is not so much a pipe dream.

[jason bourne]

Link: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAxNDA4NDk1MQ==&mid=2650244786&idx=1&sn=4889db77a556fb75547cb8bfa4df9ce6&chksm=839b988ab4ec119c27b02ece15c8e357ebec13c99b7020997e5f10761b4ef94f24098a42b7e4&mpshare=1&

Take it for however way you see it, but I called this should/if they pursue him. Guess I may know more about what's going on than most of you.

The Warriors need to put butts in seats at Chase, so they'll grab Linsanity. If they can sell a bunch of season tickets, then they may be able to use their TPE on one of these BIG guys. I didn't know there were so many becoming free agents. There are the pipe dreams and there are the cheapies. Can one use the TPE for sign-and-trade or extend-and-trade?

I'll list the cheapies here:
"Paul Millsap, Denver Nuggets (unrestricted)
Carmelo Anthony, Portland Trail Blazers (unrestricted)
Dario Saric, Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Bobby Portis, New York Knicks (team option)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Toronto Raptors (unrestricted)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings (player option)
JaMychal Green, LA Clippers (player option)"

Pipe dreams:
Anthony Davis
Danillo Gallinari
Davis Bertans
Jerami Grant
Marcus Morris

Sign-And-Trades May Dominate 2020 NBA Free Agency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2020/05/06/sign-and-trades-may-dominate-2020-nba-free-agency/#4d6cddb54ed5

You really think that the Warriors need Lin to sell out Chase Center, and put butts in the seats? Really?

I mean.... come on, man.

Whether they sign him or not will have nothing to do with ticket sales or attendance next year. Literally nothing. If they think he is the best option to help them win games, they will pursue him. That’s it.

Sheesh. “Breathtaking” is the most accurate word for this.

San Francisco and Silicon Valley has a lot of Asian rich people who want to see the only Asian in the NBA. The Chinese in China will be interested in watching him try to win another ring, too. Sure, Jeremy Lin will put a lot of butts in seats and get season ticket sales rolling. He put up some good numbers in the CBA, so the Warriors interest will be high. Lin would want to play for the Warriors for the same reason of playing in front of his countrymen. There are some Taiwanese co-founders in SV such as Yahoo (Jerry Yang), YouTube (Steve Chen), and Nvidia (Jensen Huang). There are a few startups like Tricella medical co. The Taiwanese are looking to expand here with their scientist and engineer talent and want SV cos to invest there, too.

Other teams interested are the Nets and Rockets for similar reasons. He's a distributor, not a shooter nor known deep threat at his age due to inconsistency.

I don't see why his putting butts in seats wouldn't be an asset for him returning to the NBA. Now, I agree if he was gawd awful, then teams wouldn't be interested.

[ChuckDurn]

The Warriors need to put butts in seats at Chase, so they'll grab Linsanity. If they can sell a bunch of season tickets, then they may be able to use their TPE on one of these BIG guys. I didn't know there were so many becoming free agents. There are the pipe dreams and there are the cheapies. Can one use the TPE for sign-and-trade or extend-and-trade?

I'll list the cheapies here:
"Paul Millsap, Denver Nuggets (unrestricted)
Carmelo Anthony, Portland Trail Blazers (unrestricted)
Dario Saric, Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Bobby Portis, New York Knicks (team option)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Toronto Raptors (unrestricted)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings (player option)
JaMychal Green, LA Clippers (player option)"

Pipe dreams:
Anthony Davis
Danillo Gallinari
Davis Bertans
Jerami Grant
Marcus Morris

Sign-And-Trades May Dominate 2020 NBA Free Agency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2020/05/06/sign-and-trades-may-dominate-2020-nba-free-agency/#4d6cddb54ed5

You really think that the Warriors need Lin to sell out Chase Center, and put butts in the seats? Really?

I mean.... come on, man.

Whether they sign him or not will have nothing to do with ticket sales or attendance next year. Literally nothing. If they think he is the best option to help them win games, they will pursue him. That’s it.

Sheesh. “Breathtaking” is the most accurate word for this.

San Francisco and Silicon Valley has a lot of Asian rich people who want to see the only Asian in the NBA. The Chinese in China will be interested in watching him try to win another ring, too. Sure, Jeremy Lin will put a lot of butts in seats and get season ticket sales rolling. He put up some good numbers in the CBA, so the Warriors interest will be high. Lin would want to play for the Warriors for the same reason of playing in front of his countrymen. There are some Taiwanese co-founders in SV such as Yahoo (Jerry Yang), YouTube (Steve Chen), and Nvidia (Jensen Huang). There are a few startups like Tricella medical co. The Taiwanese are looking to expand here with their scientist and engineer talent and want SV cos to invest there, too.

Other teams interested are the Nets and Rockets for similar reasons. He's a distributor, not a shooter nor known deep threat at his age due to inconsistency.

I don't see why his putting butts in seats wouldn't be an asset for him returning to the NBA. Now, I agree if he was gawd awful, then teams wouldn't be interested.

Your base assumption is way off.

Chase Center is absolutely sold out, and the only thing limiting "butts in the seats" in the foreseeable future (at least during a period where Lin would be on the team) is COVID. The Warriors will be the hottest ticket in town, with or without Lin, as long as Curry, Klay, and Draymond are on the team and they're winning.

And you really don't have to lecture a guy who has worked in technology, in Silicon Valley, since 1994, about what it's like, and the Asian influence. Hell, the first time I saw a newspaper with a headline about Linsanity (when he broke out with the Knicks), I was in a Starbucks in Shanghai (for work). But what the Warriors needed in 2010-2011 (before they were good and winning brought in the bigger money) is very different than what exists in 2020.

[Johnwick4ever]

Probably a long shot but Batum is entering the last year of an albatross contract, with a player option over $27 million.

Maybe he would be a buyout candidate, though with his cap number, some teams might be willing to trade assets to have a big expiring contract.

Good enough shooter, now 31, but has good length for a wing player to be a key defender possibly.

Huge fan of Batum coming to the Warriors. I doubt it would happen but I've always thought he would be an ideal back up at this point in his career.

Batum sucks. He hasn’t been any good for years. He was supposed to really help them, but he just stinks.

He is getting worst in these few years
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/batumni01.html

[jason bourne]

You really think that the Warriors need Lin to sell out Chase Center, and put butts in the seats? Really?

I mean.... come on, man.

Whether they sign him or not will have nothing to do with ticket sales or attendance next year. Literally nothing. If they think he is the best option to help them win games, they will pursue him. That’s it.

Sheesh. “Breathtaking” is the most accurate word for this.

San Francisco and Silicon Valley has a lot of Asian rich people who want to see the only Asian in the NBA. The Chinese in China will be interested in watching him try to win another ring, too. Sure, Jeremy Lin will put a lot of butts in seats and get season ticket sales rolling. He put up some good numbers in the CBA, so the Warriors interest will be high. Lin would want to play for the Warriors for the same reason of playing in front of his countrymen. There are some Taiwanese co-founders in SV such as Yahoo (Jerry Yang), YouTube (Steve Chen), and Nvidia (Jensen Huang). There are a few startups like Tricella medical co. The Taiwanese are looking to expand here with their scientist and engineer talent and want SV cos to invest there, too.

Other teams interested are the Nets and Rockets for similar reasons. He's a distributor, not a shooter nor known deep threat at his age due to inconsistency.

I don't see why his putting butts in seats wouldn't be an asset for him returning to the NBA. Now, I agree if he was gawd awful, then teams wouldn't be interested.

Your base assumption is way off.

Chase Center is absolutely sold out, and the only thing limiting "butts in the seats" in the foreseeable future (at least during a period where Lin would be on the team) is COVID. The Warriors will be the hottest ticket in town, with or without Lin, as long as Curry, Klay, and Draymond are on the team and they're winning.

And you really don't have to lecture a guy who has worked in technology, in Silicon Valley, since 1994, about what it's like, and the Asian influence. Hell, the first time I saw a newspaper with a headline about Linsanity (when he broke out with the Knicks), I was in a Starbucks in Shanghai (for work). But what the Warriors needed in 2010-2011 (before they were good and winning brought in the bigger money) is very different than what exists in 2020.

I didn't think Chase was sold out reading Forbes.

If sold out, then the Warriors should have the money to use their TPE and to get a primo free agent and not be worried about lux taxes for next season. They're getting a free $35 K loan for 30 yrs as membership fee for the primo seats. That doesn't include the season ticket price for the seat.

They can do better than Jeremy Lin then. I'd go for one of the primo free agents!!!

[jason bourne]

Maybe the Warriors can get on a Bogdan Bogdanovic deal. The Kings are rumored to trade for Myles Turner only.

“Sacramento Kings Receive: C Myles Turner

Indiana Pacers Receive: SF Bogdan Bogdanovic (via sign-and-trade)

While the Kings are probably more likely to trade Buddy Hield this offseason, what if they sent Bogdanovic off instead?

Myles Turner would solidify the center position and is young enough (24) and experienced enough (five years) to help Sacramento now and grow with a mostly young rotation. Hield would get his starting job back and hopefully start talking to head coach Luke Walton once again.

Indiana previously pulled off a sign-and-trade of a restricted free agent to bring in Malcolm Brogdon last year, and getting Bogdanovic to play small forward would let it shift T.J. Warren to power forward and Domantas Sabonis back to center.”

https://www.sactownroyalty.com/2020/10/7/21506105/kings-proposed-trade-pacers-bogdanovic-turner

[cdubbz]

Seems a lot of rumors in free agency is that GSW is going after ball handlers and big men. MCW, Dwight, Lin.

Would makes sense, they want some vets to anchor the paint and handle the ball.

If that holds it would seem that drafting a wing as the next step.

Base more & Justin Holiday on my cheap wings list.

[ChuckDurn]

San Francisco and Silicon Valley has a lot of Asian rich people who want to see the only Asian in the NBA. The Chinese in China will be interested in watching him try to win another ring, too. Sure, Jeremy Lin will put a lot of butts in seats and get season ticket sales rolling. He put up some good numbers in the CBA, so the Warriors interest will be high. Lin would want to play for the Warriors for the same reason of playing in front of his countrymen. There are some Taiwanese co-founders in SV such as Yahoo (Jerry Yang), YouTube (Steve Chen), and Nvidia (Jensen Huang). There are a few startups like Tricella medical co. The Taiwanese are looking to expand here with their scientist and engineer talent and want SV cos to invest there, too.

Other teams interested are the Nets and Rockets for similar reasons. He's a distributor, not a shooter nor known deep threat at his age due to inconsistency.

I don't see why his putting butts in seats wouldn't be an asset for him returning to the NBA. Now, I agree if he was gawd awful, then teams wouldn't be interested.

Your base assumption is way off.

Chase Center is absolutely sold out, and the only thing limiting "butts in the seats" in the foreseeable future (at least during a period where Lin would be on the team) is COVID. The Warriors will be the hottest ticket in town, with or without Lin, as long as Curry, Klay, and Draymond are on the team and they're winning.

And you really don't have to lecture a guy who has worked in technology, in Silicon Valley, since 1994, about what it's like, and the Asian influence. Hell, the first time I saw a newspaper with a headline about Linsanity (when he broke out with the Knicks), I was in a Starbucks in Shanghai (for work). But what the Warriors needed in 2010-2011 (before they were good and winning brought in the bigger money) is very different than what exists in 2020.

I didn't think Chase was sold out reading Forbes.

If sold out, then the Warriors should have the money to use their TPE and to get a primo free agent and not be worried about lux taxes for next season. They're getting a free $35 K loan for 30 yrs as membership fee for the primo seats. That doesn't include the season ticket price for the seat.

They can do better than Jeremy Lin then. I'd go for one of the primo free agents!!!

The TPE can only be used in a trade, and as has been explained in many, many threads, the Warriors effectively can’t participate in a sign-and-trade because it would subject them to the hard cap, which they couldn’t get under without trading 2 of Curry, Klay, Draymond, or Wiggins, and taking virtually no salary back.

So the biggest vehicle the Warriors have to get free agents is the MLE. What primo free agent would you target for that?

And because of the penalties for being way into the tax, the Warriors spending will pay way more than 1:1 in penalties - realistically, I think that if they use the full $17M in the TPE, it will actually cost them $50M+. So the question they’ll be asking themselves is “is acquiring this player(s) worth the 2-3x of their salary that it will actually cost me?” If it was just $17M, that’s probably an easy “yes” - but when we think of the “bridge” deals (i.e. taking in James Johnson for $16M, hoping that later you can trade him in a package for a player such as Myles Turner or Aaron Gordon, who don’t quite fit into the TPE), that’s a lot of dollars at risk for an unknown. That’s why it’s more likely that they may use part of the TPE than all of it - because there isn’t an obvious single player out there making $17M who is worth that $50M price tag.

[Little Digger]

I think Paschall and Bey would be a real nice balance of skills at the backup forwards.

Yep.

Bey better be capable of being a lockdown defender ..Otherwise no thanks to that combo

We need to replace Iguodala..his versatility as a playmaker and defensive stopper took this team to title contender status

I know a guy we can get

[cdubbz]

I know our core are the veterans now, but I would like the Warriors to grab another old timer for this year for the bench.

I’m not a big Jared Dudley guy at all, but listening to him talk in podcasts etc, he does bring value to the locker room. Not saying we need him, but another veteran presence would be nice. Curry and Klay aren’t too vocal. Tyson Chandler, Dudley, etc wold help our plentiful of young guys

[ChuckDurn]

I think Paschall and Bey would be a real nice balance of skills at the backup forwards.

Yep.

Bey better be capable of being a lockdown defender ..Otherwise no thanks to that combo

We need to replace Iguodala..his versatility as a playmaker and defensive stopper took this team to title contender status

I know a guy we can get

Villanova pretty much threw Bey at anybody that they needed to contain, in the 1-4 positions. Defensively, I’d put him with Vassell, just behind Okoro, amongst the top wings expected to be drafted.

[Little Digger]

Yep.

Bey better be capable of being a lockdown defender ..Otherwise no thanks to that combo

We need to replace Iguodala..his versatility as a playmaker and defensive stopper took this team to title contender status

I know a guy we can get

Villanova pretty much threw Bey at anybody that they needed to contain, in the 1-4 positions. Defensively, I’d put him with Vassell, just behind Okoro, amongst the top wings expected to be drafted.

Nice!

[SpreeChokeJob]

By the way Adonal....that video was whack! Lol

Link: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAxNDA4NDk1MQ==&mid=2650244786&idx=1&sn=4889db77a556fb75547cb8bfa4df9ce6&chksm=839b988ab4ec119c27b02ece15c8e357ebec13c99b7020997e5f10761b4ef94f24098a42b7e4&mpshare=1&

Take it for however way you see it, but I called this should/if they pursue him. Guess I may know more about what's going on than most of you.

The Warriors need to put butts in seats at Chase, so they'll grab Linsanity. If they can sell a bunch of season tickets, then they may be able to use their TPE on one of these BIG guys. I didn't know there were so many becoming free agents. There are the pipe dreams and there are the cheapies. Can one use the TPE for sign-and-trade or extend-and-trade?

I'll list the cheapies here:
"Paul Millsap, Denver Nuggets (unrestricted)
Carmelo Anthony, Portland Trail Blazers (unrestricted)
Dario Saric, Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Bobby Portis, New York Knicks (team option)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Toronto Raptors (unrestricted)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings (player option)
JaMychal Green, LA Clippers (player option)"

Pipe dreams:
Anthony Davis
Danillo Gallinari
Davis Bertans
Jerami Grant
Marcus Morris

Sign-And-Trades May Dominate 2020 NBA Free Agency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2020/05/06/sign-and-trades-may-dominate-2020-nba-free-agency/#4d6cddb54ed5

I’m okay with Lin at vet min. Low risk move and he helps coach young guys. He probably doesn’t have much left in the tank, but if he does he can contribute some. It’s sort of like a Cousins deal except he can be cut because he’s not rehabilitating his free agent value.