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Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1141 » by watch1958 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:04 pm

Excellent. Even with the clue, it took a lot of digging.

1)I’d take Poole over the “guy” too, but it is a good cautionary tale.

2)I was amazed how many guys there are with similar stats after 3 years, and how many of them never got much better.

3)Oddly, Poole’s numbers this year are also very similar to 2nd year (19 year old) Kobe. So maybe Jordan should get more efficient, or suddenly learn to be a great defender.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1142 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:13 pm

Here is where we get stuck in stats.

I would rather have a reliable vet with tons of playoff experience to run the second unit at point in ADDITION to Poole than I would having Poole run the offense without veteran help.

I.e., Dragic. Guys like Dragic make the RIGHT play in the biggest moments. Guys like Poole might make the right play but they might also go 2-12 in an out of control chuckfest.

So it's not just about stats. If the mystery guy is a long time vet with proven ability to hit clutch buckets....I want him.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1143 » by SpreeS » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:56 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Here is where we get stuck in stats.

I would rather have a reliable vet with tons of playoff experience to run the second unit at point in ADDITION to Poole than I would having Poole run the offense without veteran help.

I.e., Dragic. Guys like Dragic make the RIGHT play in the biggest moments. Guys like Poole might make the right play but they might also go 2-12 in an out of control chuckfest.

So it's not just about stats. If the mystery guy is a long time vet with proven ability to hit clutch buckets....I want him.


Green and Curry are the best playmakers on our team. You dont get better playmaker than these two in buy-out market. Separate them with mix units as possible and Poole stays as 3rd option.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1144 » by EvanZ » Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:29 pm

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Jordan Poole 28.8mpg 16.4ppg 3.1rpg 3.5apg 2.3tos .438/.338/.922
Mystery Man 28.5mpg 13.1ppg 3.9rpg 4.1apg 2.1tos .440/.339/.893

These are JP's numbers so far this season and those are the 3rd year numbers for our Mystery Man. Mystery Man couldn't agree to an extension with his team the following offseason and was eventually traded to a bad team that was eager to make a splash and who signed him to a big money, starter level deal that they came to regret and bought out the final year of.

That's the trajectory I suspect JP's career might take. He might be convinced to be a good soldier and stay on a shorter and cheaper deal if we're competing for championships and he's playing regular minutes but honestly, from what I've seen of JP's personality I don't think he's willing to fit into the 6th man role here that he seems destined to fill.

Anyone know who our Mystery Man is?


I'd take Poole right now over that guy at any point in his career. He also got derailed by constant injuries.. the difference is that that guy was a combo guard that couldnt shoot unless left wide open. Poole much better at creating his own shots. Also doesnt have the insane wingspan

But there's a lot of statistical and archetypal similarity there. I do think Poole would peak higher if given a team, and ironically I think Detroit is the team that would pay out for him.


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Wasn’t even trying to answer lol. But Monta is an obvious comp and has been for some time.


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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1145 » by FNQ » Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:59 pm

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
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GQ Hot Dog wrote:
Let's play a game.

Jordan Poole 28.8mpg 16.4ppg 3.1rpg 3.5apg 2.3tos .438/.338/.922
Mystery Man 28.5mpg 13.1ppg 3.9rpg 4.1apg 2.1tos .440/.339/.893

These are JP's numbers so far this season and those are the 3rd year numbers for our Mystery Man. Mystery Man couldn't agree to an extension with his team the following offseason and was eventually traded to a bad team that was eager to make a splash and who signed him to a big money, starter level deal that they came to regret and bought out the final year of.

That's the trajectory I suspect JP's career might take. He might be convinced to be a good soldier and stay on a shorter and cheaper deal if we're competing for championships and he's playing regular minutes but honestly, from what I've seen of JP's personality I don't think he's willing to fit into the 6th man role here that he seems destined to fill.

Anyone know who our Mystery Man is?


I'd take Poole right now over that guy at any point in his career. He also got derailed by constant injuries.. the difference is that that guy was a combo guard that couldnt shoot unless left wide open. Poole much better at creating his own shots. Also doesnt have the insane wingspan

But there's a lot of statistical and archetypal similarity there. I do think Poole would peak higher if given a team, and ironically I think Detroit is the team that would pay out for him.


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Lol I’ve got access to a crazy SQL database of all kinds of current and former metrics, I don’t know that I could have worked it out on my own
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1146 » by shazam_guy » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:43 pm

Still don't know who the mystery is. Was thinking one of the Brandons -- Knight or Jennings -- but neither of those fits the stats.

Meanwhile, it was probably pretty clear to Kuminga that the Rising Stars game was all about "first guy who touches the ball tries to score", and he may not have wanted to assert himself that way, since he's on a team that's actually teaching him to play a team game.

Or he may just have not wanted to be there, as someone else said. Either way, I'm glad I didn't watch the whole thing hoping to see him get some good playing time.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1147 » by FNQ » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:10 pm

Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck
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Post#1148 » by tarantism » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:21 pm

shazam_guy wrote:Or he may just have not wanted to be there, as someone else said. Either way, I'm glad I didn't watch the whole thing hoping to see him get some good playing time.


The tournament itself was actually quite fun. The final game almost resembled real basketball. I hope they adopt this format for the All Star.

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1149 » by DevinVassell » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:30 pm

FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck


That did it... Just dont look through any Warriors former players lists in alphabetical order.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1150 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:54 pm

FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck

Adonal? Vonteego?

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1151 » by shazam_guy » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:58 pm

I considered...the other one, since he also played for that team, but I didn't check the stats for some reason.

Yeah, reasonable comp. I think JP's a little better, at least potentially, but a long career with 12-15 ppg or so isn't the worst thing to get from an end-of-the-first-round pick.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1152 » by FNQ » Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:04 pm

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FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck

Adonal? Vonteego?

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Post#1153 » by shazam_guy » Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:11 pm

I'm pretty sure Vonteego had a neck. It was game he was missing.
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Post#1154 » by HiRez » Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:42 pm

Monta? Huh. Thought it would was Rubio.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1155 » by Badly Browned » Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:29 am

FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck


Man really didn't have a neck :lol:

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Post#1156 » by GSWFan1994 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:05 pm

Really enjoyed watching this:

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Post#1157 » by tarantism » Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:49 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:Really enjoyed watching this:

I can never quite tell if he has an accent or not

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1158 » by NeoWarriors » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:11 pm

edit: I guess Instagram stories end. No need to click.

Kuminga working on his three-point shot and hand handles. Looking pretty good.

https://instagram.com/stories/jonathan_kuminga/2778782279540265934

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1159 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:32 am

According to connor, poole and dubbs will talk extension this summer (4/80 has been speculated) and wiggs likely doesnt return.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1160 » by EvanZ » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:51 pm

Wiggins is under contract. So we're trading him? Seems unlikely to me.

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