Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft
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Excellent. Even with the clue, it took a lot of digging.
1)I’d take Poole over the “guy” too, but it is a good cautionary tale.
2)I was amazed how many guys there are with similar stats after 3 years, and how many of them never got much better.
3)Oddly, Poole’s numbers this year are also very similar to 2nd year (19 year old) Kobe. So maybe Jordan should get more efficient, or suddenly learn to be a great defender.
            
                                    
                                    1)I’d take Poole over the “guy” too, but it is a good cautionary tale.
2)I was amazed how many guys there are with similar stats after 3 years, and how many of them never got much better.
3)Oddly, Poole’s numbers this year are also very similar to 2nd year (19 year old) Kobe. So maybe Jordan should get more efficient, or suddenly learn to be a great defender.
This movie is like the Rocky Horror Picture Show where everyone knows all the lines.
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Here is where we get stuck in stats.
I would rather have a reliable vet with tons of playoff experience to run the second unit at point in ADDITION to Poole than I would having Poole run the offense without veteran help.
I.e., Dragic. Guys like Dragic make the RIGHT play in the biggest moments. Guys like Poole might make the right play but they might also go 2-12 in an out of control chuckfest.
So it's not just about stats. If the mystery guy is a long time vet with proven ability to hit clutch buckets....I want him.
            
                                    
                                    I would rather have a reliable vet with tons of playoff experience to run the second unit at point in ADDITION to Poole than I would having Poole run the offense without veteran help.
I.e., Dragic. Guys like Dragic make the RIGHT play in the biggest moments. Guys like Poole might make the right play but they might also go 2-12 in an out of control chuckfest.
So it's not just about stats. If the mystery guy is a long time vet with proven ability to hit clutch buckets....I want him.
2021/22 - The return of the Ring.
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ILOVEIT wrote:Here is where we get stuck in stats.
I would rather have a reliable vet with tons of playoff experience to run the second unit at point in ADDITION to Poole than I would having Poole run the offense without veteran help.
I.e., Dragic. Guys like Dragic make the RIGHT play in the biggest moments. Guys like Poole might make the right play but they might also go 2-12 in an out of control chuckfest.
So it's not just about stats. If the mystery guy is a long time vet with proven ability to hit clutch buckets....I want him.
Green and Curry are the best playmakers on our team. You dont get better playmaker than these two in buy-out market. Separate them with mix units as possible and Poole stays as 3rd option.
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GQ Hot Dog wrote:FNQ wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:
Let's play a game.
Jordan Poole 28.8mpg 16.4ppg 3.1rpg 3.5apg 2.3tos .438/.338/.922
Mystery Man 28.5mpg 13.1ppg 3.9rpg 4.1apg 2.1tos .440/.339/.893
These are JP's numbers so far this season and those are the 3rd year numbers for our Mystery Man. Mystery Man couldn't agree to an extension with his team the following offseason and was eventually traded to a bad team that was eager to make a splash and who signed him to a big money, starter level deal that they came to regret and bought out the final year of.
That's the trajectory I suspect JP's career might take. He might be convinced to be a good soldier and stay on a shorter and cheaper deal if we're competing for championships and he's playing regular minutes but honestly, from what I've seen of JP's personality I don't think he's willing to fit into the 6th man role here that he seems destined to fill.
Anyone know who our Mystery Man is?
I'd take Poole right now over that guy at any point in his career. He also got derailed by constant injuries.. the difference is that that guy was a combo guard that couldnt shoot unless left wide open. Poole much better at creating his own shots. Also doesnt have the insane wingspan
But there's a lot of statistical and archetypal similarity there. I do think Poole would peak higher if given a team, and ironically I think Detroit is the team that would pay out for him.
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Wasn’t even trying to answer lol. But Monta is an obvious comp and has been for some time.
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GQ Hot Dog wrote:FNQ wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:
Let's play a game.
Jordan Poole 28.8mpg 16.4ppg 3.1rpg 3.5apg 2.3tos .438/.338/.922
Mystery Man 28.5mpg 13.1ppg 3.9rpg 4.1apg 2.1tos .440/.339/.893
These are JP's numbers so far this season and those are the 3rd year numbers for our Mystery Man. Mystery Man couldn't agree to an extension with his team the following offseason and was eventually traded to a bad team that was eager to make a splash and who signed him to a big money, starter level deal that they came to regret and bought out the final year of.
That's the trajectory I suspect JP's career might take. He might be convinced to be a good soldier and stay on a shorter and cheaper deal if we're competing for championships and he's playing regular minutes but honestly, from what I've seen of JP's personality I don't think he's willing to fit into the 6th man role here that he seems destined to fill.
Anyone know who our Mystery Man is?
I'd take Poole right now over that guy at any point in his career. He also got derailed by constant injuries.. the difference is that that guy was a combo guard that couldnt shoot unless left wide open. Poole much better at creating his own shots. Also doesnt have the insane wingspan
But there's a lot of statistical and archetypal similarity there. I do think Poole would peak higher if given a team, and ironically I think Detroit is the team that would pay out for him.
Bravo. You are the RealGM.
Lol I’ve got access to a crazy SQL database of all kinds of current and former metrics, I don’t know that I could have worked it out on my own
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Still don't know who the mystery is.  Was thinking one of the Brandons -- Knight or Jennings -- but neither of those fits the stats.
Meanwhile, it was probably pretty clear to Kuminga that the Rising Stars game was all about "first guy who touches the ball tries to score", and he may not have wanted to assert himself that way, since he's on a team that's actually teaching him to play a team game.
Or he may just have not wanted to be there, as someone else said. Either way, I'm glad I didn't watch the whole thing hoping to see him get some good playing time.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Meanwhile, it was probably pretty clear to Kuminga that the Rising Stars game was all about "first guy who touches the ball tries to score", and he may not have wanted to assert himself that way, since he's on a team that's actually teaching him to play a team game.
Or he may just have not wanted to be there, as someone else said. Either way, I'm glad I didn't watch the whole thing hoping to see him get some good playing time.
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Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck
            
                                    
                                    
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shazam_guy wrote:Or he may just have not wanted to be there, as someone else said. Either way, I'm glad I didn't watch the whole thing hoping to see him get some good playing time.
The tournament itself was actually quite fun. The final game almost resembled real basketball. I hope they adopt this format for the All Star.
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Melo and amare should thrive in this offense. If Jeremy Tyler and cole Aldridge looked that good in summer league then us knick fans have a lot to be excited about. Make room for all the bandwagoners when we take off
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FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck
That did it... Just dont look through any Warriors former players lists in alphabetical order.
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FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck
Adonal? Vonteego?

 
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I considered...the other one, since he also played for that team, but I didn't check the stats for some reason.
Yeah, reasonable comp. I think JP's a little better, at least potentially, but a long career with 12-15 ppg or so isn't the worst thing to get from an end-of-the-first-round pick.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Yeah, reasonable comp. I think JP's a little better, at least potentially, but a long career with 12-15 ppg or so isn't the worst thing to get from an end-of-the-first-round pick.
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Chris Porter's Hair wrote:FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck
Adonal? Vonteego?
Bermuda? Bahama?
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I'm pretty sure Vonteego had a neck.  It was game he was missing.
            
                                    
                                    
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Monta? Huh. Thought it would was Rubio.
            
                                    
                                    
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FNQ wrote:Same first name as a guy who was on the Warriors for a couple years.. and didn’t have a neck
Man really didn't have a neck
 
 
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I can never quite tell if he has an accent or not
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edit: I guess Instagram stories end. No need to click. 
Kuminga working on his three-point shot and hand handles. Looking pretty good.
https://instagram.com/stories/jonathan_kuminga/2778782279540265934
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Kuminga working on his three-point shot and hand handles. Looking pretty good.
https://instagram.com/stories/jonathan_kuminga/2778782279540265934
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According to connor, poole and dubbs will talk extension this summer (4/80 has been speculated) and wiggs likely doesnt return.
            
                                    
                                    
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Wiggins is under contract. So we're trading him? Seems unlikely to me.
            
                                    
                                    
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