Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

[BballIntellect]

we need to get rid of dlo fast...there is no way we will fix the defense when he plays.. Myers what are you waiting for?

As much as I hate to admit it, I think Joe Lacob + Bob may be still trying to package DLo in a superstar deal for a Simmons/Gobert/Giannis/Towns/Embiid kind of player. They seem extremely ambitious.

Where is the harm with trying to get a superstar ?

[freypies]

we need to get rid of dlo fast...there is no way we will fix the defense when he plays.. Myers what are you waiting for?

As much as I hate to admit it, I think Joe Lacob + Bob may be still trying to package DLo in a superstar deal for a Simmons/Gobert/Giannis/Towns/Embiid kind of player. They seem extremely ambitious.

Where is the harm with trying to get a superstar ?

Because I personally do not think we can with the contract we gave DLo, unless he somehow proves it in the coming games. It is a highly unlikely chance, and I would rather that if a good deal presents itself, we take advantage of it instead of trying to go for bigger fish that have a <10% chance of materializing.

[BballIntellect]

As much as I hate to admit it, I think Joe Lacob + Bob may be still trying to package DLo in a superstar deal for a Simmons/Gobert/Giannis/Towns/Embiid kind of player. They seem extremely ambitious.

Where is the harm with trying to get a superstar ?

Because I personally do not think we can with the contract we gave DLo, unless he somehow proves it in the coming games. It is a highly unlikely chance, and I would rather that if a good deal presents itself, we take advantage of it instead of trying to go for bigger fish that have a <10% chance of materializing.

So you'd rather go for multiple solid role players than a true difference maker. I mean it's definitely a tough decision but I think Lacob and co dream big. In my opinion it will be star player or bust.

[cpower]

we need to get rid of dlo fast...there is no way we will fix the defense when he plays.. Myers what are you waiting for?

As much as I hate to admit it, I think Joe Lacob + Bob may be still trying to package DLo in a superstar deal for a Simmons/Gobert/Giannis/Towns/Embiid kind of player. They seem extremely ambitious.

towns is a terrible fit and other than simmons, we really have no shot of any big names.

[cpower]

Where is the harm with trying to get a superstar ?

Because I personally do not think we can with the contract we gave DLo, unless he somehow proves it in the coming games. It is a highly unlikely chance, and I would rather that if a good deal presents itself, we take advantage of it instead of trying to go for bigger fish that have a <10% chance of materializing.

So you'd rather go for multiple solid role players than a true difference maker. I mean it's definitely a tough decision but I think Lacob and co dream big. In my opinion it will be star player or bust.

a difference maker would be a 3D player, a good wing.

[ILOVEIT]

C is this teams biggest need. Without Durant, we need a Bogut type back.

Bogut was a genius passer and supreme defender. Don't think Warriors will get that magic in a center any time soon. I think he was a huge reason for the amazing offense in the 73 year team.

[BballIntellect]

C is this teams biggest need. Without Durant, we need a Bogut type back.

Bogut was a genius passer and supreme defender. Don't think Warriors will get that magic in a center any time soon. I think he was a huge reason for the amazing offense in the 73 year team.

Bogut really showed his value on defense. He was the sixth best offensive player on the team at best. The main reasons for the unprecedented offense were Steph playing as well as anybody ever, Klay doing what he does and Draymond having an outlier shooting year as well as developing even more as a main playmaker on the team.

[Coxy]

C is this teams biggest need. Without Durant, we need a Bogut type back.

Bogut was a genius passer and supreme defender. Don't think Warriors will get that magic in a center any time soon. I think he was a huge reason for the amazing offense in the 73 year team.

Bogut really showed his value on defense. He was the sixth best offensive player on the team at best. The main reasons for the unprecedented offense were Steph playing as well as anybody ever, Klay doing what he does and Draymond having an outlier shooting year as well as developing even more as a main playmaker on the team.

As hard as it is to replace Andrew, we need to try and find a player that will regaularly get us stops on defense to set our transition game alight again. That is where we were devastating, that was the key. It allowed Draybeast to roam, quarterback and do what he does, without having to stay home and protect the rim. Durant was such a luxury because he could also block shots, but without him, and also without a Bogut type, we will be a run of the mill playoff team when healthy as is.

My kingdom for Rudy Gobert.

[cdubbz]

biggest weakness on this team are the wings and it's not even close.

Big time. Also the big ole hole in the middle.That’s why I like Drummond but yeah I see why people aren’t interested.

[clyde21]

biggest weakness on this team are the wings and it's not even close.

Big time. Also the big ole hole in the middle.That’s why I like Drummond but yeah I see why people aren’t interested.

C is pretty easy to fix, they are a dime a dozen, you can get a passable rebounder/rim protector for dirt cheap every off-season, and every year there are a bunch that fall to the 2nd round

unless it's a special prospect or FA (Kat, Embiid, etc.)...then it's dumb investing high picks or big money in them.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

The thing is, we been hearing and seeing the tendency to not value centers for not switching to guard pick n rolls etc for many years now. And since bogut we have had nothing but players salvaging careers or injured guys. I am not so sure what we think we can collect off the garbage heap after watching that several times over. Most starting caliber centers are still in the 16 to 28 range? Would like to think that very little emotion comes into this stuff nor any want to pigeon hole the team in anyway. GS has to have sophisticated modeling on what circumstances become available and what that route might look like for future team dynamics. They must have a zillion of these. Just because there is a need, doesn't mean that is your best play at the time. All bets are on the table and its about what route pans out in the best interest.. Hard to be patient.

[clyde21]

C is this teams biggest need. Without Durant, we need a Bogut type back.

Bogut was a genius passer and supreme defender. Don't think Warriors will get that magic in a center any time soon. I think he was a huge reason for the amazing offense in the 73 year team.

Bogut really showed his value on defense. He was the sixth best offensive player on the team at best. The main reasons for the unprecedented offense were Steph playing as well as anybody ever, Klay doing what he does and Draymond having an outlier shooting year as well as developing even more as a main playmaker on the team.

Boges real value was on offense actually, what made him special is the elite screen setting/picking and the inside-out passing game that unlocked so much offensively for us...his defense was icing on the cake

[xdrta+]

we need to get rid of dlo fast...there is no way we will fix the defense when he plays.. Myers what are you waiting for?

What is the rush? It's not like anything has to be fixed this season. There's plenty of time in the summer.

[freypies]

Bogut was a genius passer and supreme defender. Don't think Warriors will get that magic in a center any time soon. I think he was a huge reason for the amazing offense in the 73 year team.

Bogut really showed his value on defense. He was the sixth best offensive player on the team at best. The main reasons for the unprecedented offense were Steph playing as well as anybody ever, Klay doing what he does and Draymond having an outlier shooting year as well as developing even more as a main playmaker on the team.

Boges real value was on offense actually, what made him special is the elite screen setting/picking and the inside-out passing game that unlocked so much offensively for us...his defense was icing on the cake

I think Marc Gasol on the MLE would be my ideal Bogut replacement.

Have you seen Steven Adams recently? His passing game looks much improved in the games I have watched him in. I saw an article talking about the improvement as well, but can't find it now. His screen setting - as always - is great.

As good as he looks nowadays, I personally don't think the 26 million he gets every year with his skill-set is worth it. I think he will be better on our team than Andre Drummond, at least.

[clyde21]

Bogut really showed his value on defense. He was the sixth best offensive player on the team at best. The main reasons for the unprecedented offense were Steph playing as well as anybody ever, Klay doing what he does and Draymond having an outlier shooting year as well as developing even more as a main playmaker on the team.

Boges real value was on offense actually, what made him special is the elite screen setting/picking and the inside-out passing game that unlocked so much offensively for us...his defense was icing on the cake

I think Marc Gasol on the MLE would be my ideal Bogut replacement.

Have you seen Steven Adams recently? His passing game looks much improved in the games I have watched him in. I saw an article talking about the improvement as well, but can't find it now. His screen setting - as always - is great.

As good as he looks nowadays, I personally don't think the 26 million he gets every year with his skill-set. I think he will be better on our team than Andre Drummond, at least.

oh yea, i prefere Adams to Drummond for sure, Drummond is more worried about getting his 20/10, Adams doesn't care at all and is willing to do all the little things like you said like setting picks and boxing out

that's the kind of C we need, too much $$$ for Adams tho.

[ILOVEIT]

More options...
DLO and pick for:
Aaron Gordan and Roco in three way with Wolves and Orlando.

or

Marc Gasol and Lowery (have Lowery move to backup) in Toronto trade.

or

Love and Roco in three way with Wolves and Cavs.

[ThunderBolt]

Boges real value was on offense actually, what made him special is the elite screen setting/picking and the inside-out passing game that unlocked so much offensively for us...his defense was icing on the cake

I think Marc Gasol on the MLE would be my ideal Bogut replacement.

Have you seen Steven Adams recently? His passing game looks much improved in the games I have watched him in. I saw an article talking about the improvement as well, but can't find it now. His screen setting - as always - is great.

As good as he looks nowadays, I personally don't think the 26 million he gets every year with his skill-set. I think he will be better on our team than Andre Drummond, at least.

oh yea, i prefere Adams to Drummond for sure, Drummond is more worried about getting his 20/10, Adams doesn't care at all and is willing to do all the little things like you said like setting picks and boxing out

that's the kind of C we need, too much $$$ for Adams tho.

Okc is running a lot of the offense through Adams this year. He’s not a Bogut level passer but he’s pretty good. He’s averaging 2.7 apg which is a career high. This has caused his ORB to drop since he’s not under the basket quite as much, yet he’s still averaging a career high in rebounds while playing about 6 mpg less than last year. Next year he’ll be an expiring so it wouldn’t be a long term commitment to his high price if GS decided he’s the guy they want. If Adams gets traded I would rather him go somewhere like GS than Atlanta. He’s been such a good teammate I hate to stick him in a bad situation.Good article here if anyone wants to read it- https://dailythunder.com/the-rise-of-steven-adams/

[clyde21]

I think Marc Gasol on the MLE would be my ideal Bogut replacement.

Have you seen Steven Adams recently? His passing game looks much improved in the games I have watched him in. I saw an article talking about the improvement as well, but can't find it now. His screen setting - as always - is great.

As good as he looks nowadays, I personally don't think the 26 million he gets every year with his skill-set. I think he will be better on our team than Andre Drummond, at least.

oh yea, i prefere Adams to Drummond for sure, Drummond is more worried about getting his 20/10, Adams doesn't care at all and is willing to do all the little things like you said like setting picks and boxing out

that's the kind of C we need, too much $$$ for Adams tho.

Okc is running a lot of the offense through Adams this year. He’s not a Bogut level passer but he’s pretty good. He’s averaging 2.7 apg which is a career high. This has caused his ORB to drop since he’s not under the basket quite as much, yet he’s still averaging a career high in rebounds while playing about 6 mpg less than last year. Next year he’ll be an expiring so it wouldn’t be a long term commitment to his high price if GS decided he’s the guy they want. If Adams gets traded I would rather him go somewhere like GS than Atlanta. He’s been such a good teammate I hate to stick him in a bad situation.Good article here if anyone wants to read it- https://dailythunder.com/the-rise-of-steven-adams/

yeah, I wouldn't mind Adams at all, but either way, DLo doesn't seem like a good fit in OKC and that's who we'd give up.

[cdubbz]

Trying to work a trade on ESPN trade machine but can't make it work.

Warriors receive: Steven Adams + Covington

Minnesota Recieves: Dlo

OKC Recieves: Wiggins + WCS + Minny picks.

Only see OKC doing this if they go full rebuild mode and get a Minny 1st rounder to add to their collection of picks. Far fetched deal

[cdubbz]

Warriors get: Covington, Diop, Bates-Diop+ pick

Wolves get: Dlo+ Spellman

we need to rob the wolves for their draft pick if they want to KAT and DLo.