2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

[KevinMcreynolds]

GSW haven’t done well with picks around #27.

Evans, Jones, Poole.

I think the stat is something like 75% of picks outside of the lottery are out of the league within 3 years. So basically if you hit on 1 out of 4 late picks you’re league average. The Jones pick made sense, there was a lot of upside there. The kid just never developed. It looks like Poole will at least be a decent backup. Evans was straight up doo doo tho. That was a big fat whiff.

[fox2jk]

Not sure if this was posted but...


Wiggins and the second

For Devin Booker and the Suns pick.

Would the Suns bite?

[Hopper15]

Uhhh boy.

[cdubbz]

Right now I go:

Wiseman
Okoro
Vassell

Nice.

Mine goes:
I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know.

I honestly don’t have a preference AT THE MOMENT of who the Warriors draft.

It goes back to what is their objective, fill a need or get potential franchise player or both?

Normally you don’t draft for need at #2, particularly a player who may only be a role player the first couple of years. You want to give a high ceiling player lot of minutes and touches because teams picking this high need talent and are trying to rebuild.

Warriors hope they’re still in title contention with their aging stars and getting the #2 pick is a big windfall.

So do you try to extend their past glory years with a player who best plays a supporting role to the stars?

Or do you get someone whose ceiling is so high that he commands minutes and touches, including some touches at the expense of the older stars?

Kawhi basically played that supporting role for like 4-5 seasons but exceeded expectations, becoming Finals MVP. Not sure even the Spurs believed he’d be an MVP level player when they picked him. Obviously they expected that he’d fit in around Duncan, Parker and Ginobli.

Not sure there’s a Kawhi in this draft but if you think Klay, Steph and Dray are still at least all star level players, you look for a talent to try to fit in.

Might mean trading the pick or a couple of high end role players if you really believe here still title contenders which still need a strong supporting cast.

Great example with the Kawhi draft day trade with the Pacers.

I do feel that a number of these guys could potentially play the role player role the next few years - Wiseman, Okoro, Vassell, Onyeka, Deni etc. it’s to the point I’ll be fine with whatever Bob does.

[ChuckDurn]

Not sure if this was posted but...


Wiggins and the second

For Devin Booker and the Suns pick.

Would the Suns bite?

Not a chance in the world that the Suns would consider that. In fact, it's so out of whack from a value perspective that the Warriors would lose credibility in even asking the question.

(Even setting aside the value, the Suns have the SF position very well set, between Bridges and Oubre [and even Cam Johnson sliding down to play it a bit]. So Wiggins wouldn't even fill anything close to a need for them.)

[Warriors Analyst]

Not sure if this was posted but...


Wiggins and the second

For Devin Booker and the Suns pick.

Would the Suns bite?

I would recommend going to the Suns board and reading a bit about how they value their players. As a general practice, I try and get a good gauge of how other fans feel about their players before coming up with these hypothetical trades. The trade you've proposed wouldn't happen in a million years. It wouldn't happen if the Warriors added the 2021 Minnesota pick. It wouldn't happen if the 2021 Warriors FRP was thrown in. It probably wouldn't even happen if Booker tore his achilles tomorrow.

[Mylie10]

Booker is a much better player than Wiggins. Like not even comparable. The pick switch doesn’t fill the gulf between those two players.

[fox2jk]

Booker is a much better player than Wiggins. Like not even comparable. The pick switch doesn’t fill the gulf between those two players.

The trade was never about Wiggins. It was about the second pick. Wiggins is just a salary match..

The second pick is extremely valuable and can land a surprising amount of players. Dont miss the real point here.

[Warriors Analyst]

Booker is a much better player than Wiggins. Like not even comparable. The pick switch doesn’t fill the gulf between those two players.

The trade was never about Wiggins. It was about the second pick. Wiggins is just a salary match..

The second pick is extremely valuable and can land a surprising amount of players. Dont miss the real point here.

The second pick in a historically weak draft is not extremely valuable, especially not when it's attached to Wiggins' albatross contract. Your point is clear. It's also dead wrong. So say that Phoenix for whatever reason decides to this trade. Then what? They use the 2nd pick to... try and find someone better than Devin Booker? It's not going to happen and Phoenix doesn't have the contracts or assets to make it happen. Booker is their best player and their goal should be to build around him. He's good enough that playing with him should have some appeal. Trading Booker for Wiggins and the #2 would set them back a decade. Go ahead, propose this trade to the Phoenix board. I assure you, you'll get laughed out of there.

[fox2jk]

Booker is a much better player than Wiggins. Like not even comparable. The pick switch doesn’t fill the gulf between those two players.

The trade was never about Wiggins. It was about the second pick. Wiggins is just a salary match..

The second pick is extremely valuable and can land a surprising amount of players. Dont miss the real point here.

The second pick in a historically weak draft is not extremely valuable, especially not when it's attached to Wiggins' albatross contract. Your point is clear. It's also dead wrong. So say that Phoenix for whatever reason decides to this trade. Then what? They use the 2nd pick to... try and find someone better than Devin Booker? It's not going to happen and Phoenix doesn't have the contracts or assets to make it happen. Booker is their best player and their goal should be to build around him. He's good enough that playing with him should have some appeal. Trading Booker for Wiggins and the #2 would set them back a decade. Go ahead, propose this trade to the Phoenix board. I assure you, you'll get laughed out of there.

Wiseman. And I posted the trade on their board.

[fox2jk]

Booker is a much better player than Wiggins. Like not even comparable. The pick switch doesn’t fill the gulf between those two players.

The trade was never about Wiggins. It was about the second pick. Wiggins is just a salary match..

The second pick is extremely valuable and can land a surprising amount of players. Dont miss the real point here.

The second pick in a historically weak draft is not extremely valuable, especially not when it's attached to Wiggins' albatross contract. Your point is clear. It's also dead wrong. So say that Phoenix for whatever reason decides to this trade. Then what? They use the 2nd pick to... try and find someone better than Devin Booker? It's not going to happen and Phoenix doesn't have the contracts or assets to make it happen. Booker is their best player and their goal should be to build around him. He's good enough that playing with him should have some appeal. Trading Booker for Wiggins and the #2 would set them back a decade. Go ahead, propose this trade to the Phoenix board. I assure you, you'll get laughed out of there.

They want Steph also so yeah you were wrong.

[Warriors Analyst]

The trade was never about Wiggins. It was about the second pick. Wiggins is just a salary match..

The second pick is extremely valuable and can land a surprising amount of players. Dont miss the real point here.

The second pick in a historically weak draft is not extremely valuable, especially not when it's attached to Wiggins' albatross contract. Your point is clear. It's also dead wrong. So say that Phoenix for whatever reason decides to this trade. Then what? They use the 2nd pick to... try and find someone better than Devin Booker? It's not going to happen and Phoenix doesn't have the contracts or assets to make it happen. Booker is their best player and their goal should be to build around him. He's good enough that playing with him should have some appeal. Trading Booker for Wiggins and the #2 would set them back a decade. Go ahead, propose this trade to the Phoenix board. I assure you, you'll get laughed out of there.

They want Steph also so yeah you were wrong.

?? You originally proposed Wiggins and the #2 for Booker. I explained it was a dogsh-t deal. I saw your post in the Phoenix board, you just asked if they'd consider the #2 for Booker. You didn't mention the Wiggins part of the deal. Their answer that they'd only consider it with Steph included makes it very clear that, no, they wouldn't consider Booker for the #2 and that they don't value the pick. None of this adds up to you being right.

[SAKURABA216]

Not sure if this was posted but...


Wiggins and the second

For Devin Booker and the Suns pick.

Would the Suns bite?

I don't think they would consider it even if it was Wiggins + #2 pick + 2021 Minnesota FRP for just Booker.

The Suns want to build around Booker and Ayton.

[Mylie10]

Newbies smh

[Coxy]

My updated top 5 big board 27/10/2020.

1. James Wiseman
2. Deni Avdija
3. Patrick Williams
4. Isaac Okoro
5. Anthony Edwards

[jason bourne]

Not sure if this was posted but...


Wiggins and the second

For Devin Booker and the Suns pick.

Would the Suns bite?

They could get the #1 pick for Booker.

[Little Digger]

Per the Marcus Thompson of Athletic who was at the workouts and who got the vibe from the Warriors team at the workouts:

But they did see something on this road trip, sources said, that would make them just fine with making a selection at No. 2. Two somethings actually.

Anthony Edwards. James Wiseman. I put them in alphabetical order, so don’t get ahead of yourself. Word out of the workouts is that both of them were “beasts.”


Wiseman is as big and skilled as advertised. They also liked him when they had their conversation/interview or whatever it was.


Edwards’ exceptional athleticism jumped out in person. He seemed to really impress the Warriors with his freakishness.

[Coxy]

Per the Marcus Thompson of Athletic who was at the workouts and who got the vibe from the Warriors team at the workouts:

But they did see something on this road trip, sources said, that would make them just fine with making a selection at No. 2. Two somethings actually.

Anthony Edwards. James Wiseman. I put them in alphabetical order, so don’t get ahead of yourself. Word out of the workouts is that both of them were “beasts.”


Wiseman is as big and skilled as advertised. They also liked him when they had their conversation/interview or whatever it was.


Edwards’ exceptional athleticism jumped out in person. He seemed to really impress the Warriors with his freakishness.

It’s very very possible that the Wolves and the Warriors will end up with these guys, in either order. We’ll just take whoever they don’t.

[Little Digger]

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Draft prospect Killian Tillie: 'I think I can play very similarly to Danilo Gallinari'

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