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Post#1161 » by Mob Byers » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:27 pm

FloydWarrior wrote:Draft mode fever season: for me it's already got to the point I'm doing simulations on modded NBA 2k14, real draft order on both rounds and all the bells & whistles beforehand (shootouts, 5 on 5, 2 on 2)...I think I need help :lol:

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Outside of a miracle that 1 of the top 4 drops down to 7, I'm staring to round up my preferences in either Şengün / Moody or Jalen Johnson (if he passes the sniff tests).

Don't think either of them would last until the last lottery pick, so i would be looking at the Knicks/Rockets with their 2 picks if they want to trade up and maybe get an asset for it while choosing a useful player with one of their late 1st...depending on who we choose with 7th pick, I like Neemias Queta as a sleeper pick. Still need to check a few others :D

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Because I hadn't bought 2k in awhile and just got my first PC not long ago. So I picked up 2k21 thinking there would be a PC community with mods + junk but it doesn't seem like there is much if any. Disappointed too bc it feels like all the other 2k's.

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Post#1162 » by HiRez » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:54 am

Right now for me (assuming the obvious top 4 are gone) at #7:

Barnes
Kuminga
Moody
(one of these 3 pretty much guaranteed to be available at #7)

At #14 if none of the above drop:

Mitchell
Bouknight
Wagner
Williams
Keon
Kispert
Giddey

Chances are we'll end up with 2 decent prospects, but probably no one elite. Would still prefer to trade up for Suggs if possible.
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Post#1163 » by wco81 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:20 am

Should prospects being represented by Klutch have a mark against them?
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Post#1164 » by FNQ » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:15 am

I know 14 is too early but I'm really into the idea of getting Robinson-Earl or Bassey, but mostly Robinson-Earl.. I dont think he'll ever be a star, or maybe not even a starter, but he's the kinda guy I really like getting 15-20 off the bench. Think he can be a poor man's Boozer - like Boozer, Robinson-Earl has decent mechanics but just couldn't do it consistently. Obviously a bit smaller, less of a rebounder, and less of a scorer, but way more of a defender than Boozer was. Think he fits really nicely, though would likely take minutes of JTA
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Post#1165 » by azwfan » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:15 am

My current top 14 for us as I sort through all these guys

1. Cade
2. Green
3. Mobley
4. Suggs
5. Barnes
6. Bouk
7. Moody
8. Wagner
9. Jalen Johnson
10. Mann
11. Giddey
12. K Johnson
13. Kuminga
14. Trey Murphy

Bouk, Moody, and Wagner I have rated very similarly - Bouk slightly ahead for perceived upside... although the more I watch Middleton the more I have thoughts of Moody maybe getting there. 9-14 I really am not sure on, and it adjusts depending on who i'm reading up on/ watching / listening about that day. Mann is currently rated pretty high cause I just saw a bunch of highlights of him destroying a bunch of kids ankles in college this season and he looks like he can get his own shot pretty much at will... and shoots a good clip. Hmm... maybe i'll move up up to 9...

I still haven't looked at Kai Jones, Sengun, JT Thor, or Garuba. Probably won't unless we take one of them.

Edit: Also, I'm not completely sold on Trey Murphy. His rebounding is really poor, and his shot looks weird to me (but can't argue with those %'s). Still at 14, I'll be okay with him.

Was hoping I'd like the Stanford kid more, but I just don't see it with him.
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Post#1166 » by Onus » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:05 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
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Pretty lame. Only for the diehards.


How do you all feel about Jalen Johnson? I didn’t catch the whole Klutch thing and wondered how he did shooting the ball. All I see in the highlights is his size and athleticism which we know is amazing. I’m not high on him but haven’t written him off either. I think the info teams get on him will be evident with where he gets drafted.

After this Kai Jones (he put on some good weight) looks really intriguing even though I know he doesn't know how to play basketball yet. His movement skills and athleticism at the height and length, if he can put it together, which is obviously a big if, he can be a player down the road.
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Post#1167 » by Onus » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:07 pm

FNQ wrote:I know 14 is too early but I'm really into the idea of getting Robinson-Earl or Bassey, but mostly Robinson-Earl.. I dont think he'll ever be a star, or maybe not even a starter, but he's the kinda guy I really like getting 15-20 off the bench. Think he can be a poor man's Boozer - like Boozer, Robinson-Earl has decent mechanics but just couldn't do it consistently. Obviously a bit smaller, less of a rebounder, and less of a scorer, but way more of a defender than Boozer was. Think he fits really nicely, though would likely take minutes of JTA

JRE will definitely be a player. If he could extend his range to 3, I'd take him at 14. I'm just not sure he'll be able to extend his range.
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Post#1168 » by FloydWarrior » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:17 pm

Mob Byers wrote:Kinda OT but is that the last decent 2k that people update? Or did you do this all yourself?

Because I hadn't bought 2k in awhile and just got my first PC not long ago. So I picked up 2k21 thinking there would be a PC community with mods + junk but it doesn't seem like there is much if any. Disappointed too bc it feels like all the other 2k's.

Growing up I knew almost every player, even scrubs, from the MLB, NBA, and NFL. Just always loved franchise modes that much.

So sick of how sports video games are handled the past decade. Been a few years since I've given madden a shot. Think I'm actually done at this point. That and I just don't have as much time.


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Depends: 2k17 for this gen and 2k14 for the last gen. Some folks also go back to NBA 2K11 (game flow, isomotion).
And no, no way i would be able to do this :)...between cyberfaces, roster updates, jerseys, arenas, new players, commentary names, etc, it's a lot of work.

There's a reason 2KSports even hired some of the modders to their own team. Some of these updates improve the overall look of the games and make them look brand new.

If you need guidance for 2k14 just give me PM, but modding in that game is super easy/dummy proof.
Only issue is MyCareer mode which is full of bugs: with or without mods, but it's something 2KSports failed to fix & it's unfixable so might as well not even touch it.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#1169 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:24 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
DevinVassell wrote:

Pretty lame. Only for the diehards.


How do you all feel about Jalen Johnson? I didn’t catch the whole Klutch thing and wondered how he did shooting the ball. All I see in the highlights is his size and athleticism which we know is amazing. I’m not high on him but haven’t written him off either. I think the info teams get on him will be evident with where he gets drafted.

After this Kai Jones (he put on some good weight) looks really intriguing even though I know he doesn't know how to play basketball yet. His movement skills and athleticism at the height and length, if he can put it together, which is obviously a big if, he can be a player down the road.


yeah, I have been high on Kai for some time. He has a fluidity to his game at that size that is incredible and he dunks like he hates the rim. He has a handle and his shot mechanics actually looks pretty good, if he can improve his feel for the game on both sides of the court he will be amazing.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#1170 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:46 pm

wco81 wrote:Should prospects being represented by Klutch have a mark against them?


Nah. By the time they are on their 2nd contracts LeBron and Klutch will be fading from their dominance of LA and the NBA.
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Post#1171 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:56 pm

After watching 4 games now I'm much higher on Keon than I was. There are no players after 4 without significant questions/issues.

To me for the most part I'm going to support whoever the Warriors take within reason, and to that end though there are clear issues I have Barnes, Kuminga, Mitchell, Moody, Jalen and Keon Johnson, Wagner, Bouknight (though I'm far from sold on him).

If all of them are gone at 14 I'd add Giddey, Sengun, Mann, Murphy, Springer, Williams, Garuba, Kispert.

I think Williams is one of those players that looks like less than he is ... like he's playing in slow motion sometimes.
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Post#1172 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:13 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:After watching 4 games now I'm much higher on Keon than I was. There are no players after 4 without significant questions/issues.

To me for the most part I'm going to support whoever the Warriors take within reason, and to that end though there are clear issues I have Barnes, Kuminga, Mitchell, Moody, Jalen and Keon Johnson, Wagner, Bouknight (though I'm far from sold on him).

If all of them are gone at 14 I'd add Giddey, Sengun, Mann, Murphy, Springer, Williams, Garuba, Kispert.

I think Williams is one of those players that looks like less than he is ... like he's playing in slow motion sometimes.


one thing that I have heard that I agree with when it comes to the Warriors picks at 7 and 14 is that there are so many players that seem like a reach at 7 but would be a no brainer at 14. I really hope they find a player at 7 if they keep the pick.
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Post#1173 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:49 pm

quickly becoming my favorite player for the Warriors in the draft and starting to doubt he will be there at 14
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Post#1174 » by Onus » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:07 pm

whatisacenter wrote:quickly becoming my favorite player for the Warriors in the draft and starting to doubt he will be there at 14

The one thing that has me puzzled is that after his laker workout he said he wants to be an all star type player and then in this video he's like I want to be like KD, Tatum type player. I get that this is draft season and you want to boost your stock with perceived upside, but is that realistic? and he really didn't show much of that at Virginia. Not saying that he couldn't or he shouldn't but just kind of shocked me.

But regardless still want to take him at 14.
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Post#1175 » by shazam_guy » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:28 pm

This is a really interesting draft. Yes, it's totally life-or-death and we-must-not-make-a-mistake and yadda-yadda. But more than anything else, it's a very fluid draft that's going to be fun to watch after the first four or so picks. It will be fascinating to see where the Ws come down on ready-now versus upside.
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Post#1176 » by thunderdunk » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:51 pm

Thinking about all those 2nd round picks that might be available from OKC or NOP... If the Dubs draft twice in round 1, if there's someone that they really like in round 2, where would they put him right now? If they trade away one of the picks, or trade down, I hope that they get a future 1st back, instead of a 2nd rounder, this year or any year, unless there's someone after pick 30 this year that they really like and think will get drafted by someone else. Traditionally, picks after 40 are the longest of longshots. Might as well just pick up free agents from the G league.
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Post#1177 » by floppymoose » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:14 pm

A bunch of you would hate me as a GM because I have zero interest in "ready now" in the draft, whether the team sucks or is a championship squad. If I need players to help me win now thats trades and free agency. Drafting is always BPA long term for me.
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Post#1178 » by Onus » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:17 pm

floppymoose wrote:A bunch of you would hate me as a GM because I have zero interest in "ready now" in the draft, whether the team sucks or is a championship squad. If I need players to help me win now thats trades and free agency. Drafting is always BPA long term for me.

Who is BPA for you? Kuminga, Keon, Kai?
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Post#1179 » by floppymoose » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:34 pm

I have to plead ignorance. I looked at the writeups and Keon's caught my eye, so I watched some vids. And then I liked what I saw. So he's at the top of my list of 1. ;-)

I might have actually seen Kuminga because I did watch a few G league games, and I remember there were some good players.
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Post#1180 » by Onus » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:38 pm

floppymoose wrote:I have to plead ignorance. I looked at the writeups and Keon's caught my eye, so I watched some vids. And then I liked what I saw. So he's at the top of my list of 1. ;-)

I might have actually seen Kuminga because I did watch a few G league games, and I remember there were some good players.

haha i think there may be other issues with you being gm rather than you taking BPA
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