Is Klay Thompson overrated?

[a8bil]

Klay better than Paul George. Not overrated. 'Nuff said.

Oh and re: GF, nope, I don't share a pussy with Irving.

You can't handle the truth, can you. Explain why Paul George is indisputably better than Klay, with worse shooting numbers across the board. Your dismissive response reflects your inability to defend your position. Nuff said.

**** man I don't even know where to start. George is a zillion times better than Klay. George was going to be the player his teammates look up to on Team USA before he got hurt. George can get shots himself and for his teammates. Defensively George can defend wings INCLUDING Lebron.

How about this. Can you find 5 other Klay fans on this thread who true heartedly think Klay is better than George?

Just come on out guys. Yell yes if you think Klay is a better player than George. Yell yes if you are building a team and you have them as the 2 choices, and you will pick Klay first!

I wonder who else agrees with you on Klay > George claim.

You're trying to justify your position by polling the mob? The mob wanted to get rid of Steph in his second year, and trade HB, Dray and Klay for Love. Dont invoke the mob, just dont!

Look I like George and think he is a great player (top 5-6 wing in the league), but being a good, but inefficient scorer on a bad team doesn't tell you much about the guy. The numbers don't lie, PG is just not an efficient scorer...we can assume he'ld be more efficient on a better team, but it is just that--an assumption. You don't emphatically say he's better than x, y or z based on an assumption.

George is no better a playmaker than Klay--if he had significantly better handles and ability to drive hoop, his assists would be higher. He rebounds a bit better, although I remain convinced that Klay's lower rebound totals are result of scheme, not ability. When they have asked Klay to stay low and rebound he puts up strong numbers. His biggest advantage is at defense, where he has more versatility than Klay....but if you recorded yesterday's game, I invite you to go back and watch how Klay defended JRS, Shumpert, Delly and Lebron. Not sure how someone can do much better or be more versatile.

[lars_rosenberg]

Paul George is 10 times better than Klay, come on.

Care to support that opinion? Again, far less efficient scorer than Klay (playing in the weaker east), about the same as a playmaker and a bit better defensively. I don't see 10x in that.

You're comparing a first offensive option (PG) in defense-first team with a second offensive option in a team with a far better offensive system and the best shooter of all time opening space for him.
And PG is a better defender and athlete. Not even close.
Imagine Paul George in this Warrior team. It would be insane.
We say Barnes is a good fit, but PG is 10 times better than Barnes at pretty much everything, including 3-pointers if you feed him with the wide open shots Barnes is shooting.
Klay is good, but PG was a superstar in the making before the horrible injury. He turned the mediocre Pacers team into a contender the last 2 seasons and he's only 25, same age as Klay.
He's my second favorite player (after Steph) and I hope he'll be back fully healthy because he's an amazing player.

[likashing]

You can't handle the truth, can you. Explain why Paul George is indisputably better than Klay, with worse shooting numbers across the board. Your dismissive response reflects your inability to defend your position. Nuff said.

**** man I don't even know where to start. George is a zillion times better than Klay. George was going to be the player his teammates look up to on Team USA before he got hurt. George can get shots himself and for his teammates. Defensively George can defend wings INCLUDING Lebron.

How about this. Can you find 5 other Klay fans on this thread who true heartedly think Klay is better than George?

Just come on out guys. Yell yes if you think Klay is a better player than George. Yell yes if you are building a team and you have them as the 2 choices, and you will pick Klay first!

I wonder who else agrees with you on Klay > George claim.

You're trying to justify your position by polling the mob? The mob wanted to get rid of Steph in his second year, and trade HB, Dray and Klay for Love. Dont invoke the mob, just dont!

Look I like George and think he is a great player (top 5-6 wing in the league), but being a good, but inefficient scorer on a bad team doesn't tell you much about the guy. The numbers don't lie, PG is just not an efficient scorer...we can assume he'ld be more efficient on a better team, but it is just that--an assumption. You don't emphatically say he's better than x, y or z based on an assumption.

George is no better a playmaker than Klay--if he had significantly better handles and ability to drive hoop, his assists would be higher. He rebounds a bit better, although I remain convinced that Klay's lower rebound totals are result of scheme, not ability. When they have asked Klay to stay low and rebound he puts up strong numbers. His biggest advantage is at defense, where he has more versatility than Klay....but if you recorded yesterday's game, I invite you to go back and watch how Klay defended JRS, Shumpert, Delly and Lebron. Not sure how someone can do much better or be more versatile.

I am not trying to pull the mob on you. Since I don't think any sane fan would rank Klay ahead of Paul George. So I ask in this thread since it is the most likely place for someone to agree that Klay is better than PG - this is the Warriors forum, we are debating whether Klay is overrated in this thread and many who think Klay is great/underrated unfairly are in this thread as well. Still, you are still the only one saying Klay > PG.

Klay cannot rebound because he sucks at it. I watched in Oracle and re-watched the whole damn game at home. He got a rebound, 2-handed, and STILL lose it to the Cavs. His handle sucks. He nearly turned it over at the end of the 4th quarter when the Cavs still thought they had a chance.

His other strength - efficient scoring - you keep pushing for, he freaking choked for 3 games in the biggest stage of his life - 35 points on 39 shots with 1 FT <- is that efficient? 3 of 5 games in the Finals. Also 9 assists and 10 rebounds OVER THREE FINALS GAMES. Even Iguodala pulled 8 boards in ONE game. What scheme? Klay leaks out so others rebound and he scores? Did he score? The team build this scheme because Klay sucks at rebounding. Might as well have him leak out since he won't be of any help. Don't use a scheme to hide his weakness.

Klay freaking choked in the Finals. He is making $70 million. I don't see how he is better than Paul George, and you are still the only one who thinks so.

His D on Lebron? I can't blame anyone for failing to contain Lebron. But having watched Butler defend Lebron, I won't even rank Klay ahead of Butler as a SG.

You can argue all day if you want. When you are the only one among Warriors/Klay fans who think Klay is > PG, you just need to admit you are wrong.

I will stop arguing on re: Klay > PG at this, as I have said everything I would ever want to comment on this weird Klay > PG topic already. Love is blind. Have fun with the Space Cadet in Mars and we are in the Finals.

[shazam_guy]

I don't think George is better than Klay. I think George has benefited, as many have pointed out, from being the go-to guy.

That said, I think all of you are WAY too sure of yourselves and your takes.

[a8bil]

I am not trying to pull the mob on you. Since I don't think any sane fan would rank Klay ahead of Paul George. So I ask in this thread since it is the most likely place for someone to agree that Klay is better than PG - this is the Warriors forum, we are debating whether Klay is overrated in this thread and many who think Klay is great/underrated unfairly are in this thread as well. Still, you are still the only one saying Klay > PG.

Klay cannot rebound because he sucks at it. I watched in Oracle and re-watched the whole damn game at home. He got a rebound, 2-handed, and STILL lose it to the Cavs. His handle sucks. He nearly turned it over at the end of the 4th quarter when the Cavs still thought they had a chance.

His other strength - efficient scoring - you keep pushing for, he freaking choked for 3 games in the biggest stage of his life - 35 points on 39 shots with 1 FT <- is that efficient? 3 of 5 games in the Finals. Also 9 assists and 10 rebounds OVER THREE FINALS GAMES. Even Iguodala pulled 8 boards in ONE game. What scheme? Klay leaks out so others rebound and he scores? Did he score? The team build this scheme because Klay sucks at rebounding. Might as well have him leak out since he won't be of any help. Don't use a scheme to hide his weakness.

Klay freaking choked in the Finals. He is making $70 million. I don't see how he is better than Paul George, and you are still the only one who thinks so.

His D on Lebron? I can't blame anyone for failing to contain Lebron. But having watched Butler defend Lebron, I won't even rank Klay ahead of Butler as a SG.

You can argue all day if you want. When you are the only one among Warriors/Klay fans who think Klay is > PG, you just need to admit you are wrong.

I will stop arguing on re: Klay > PG at this, as I have said everything I would ever want to comment on this weird Klay > PG topic already. Love is blind. Have fun with the Space Cadet in Mars and we are in the Finals.

LOL...I don't love Klay, but I also dont have a two second attention span like you seem to have. Players have good offensive games, they have bad offensive games. It's what they do over the long haul that proves their metal. Klay is one of the best shooting guards in the league by the numbers, and he continues to get better, which is why he's getting love from all around the league (but apparently not with Klaters like yourself).

Given YOUR love for PG, I can only assume you were one of the guys insisting that Love was a top 5 player in the league that we could not miss trading for no matter what. Your love for players who have yet to prove themselves on any stage is humorous if nothing else.

[likashing]

I am not trying to pull the mob on you. Since I don't think any sane fan would rank Klay ahead of Paul George. So I ask in this thread since it is the most likely place for someone to agree that Klay is better than PG - this is the Warriors forum, we are debating whether Klay is overrated in this thread and many who think Klay is great/underrated unfairly are in this thread as well. Still, you are still the only one saying Klay > PG.

Klay cannot rebound because he sucks at it. I watched in Oracle and re-watched the whole damn game at home. He got a rebound, 2-handed, and STILL lose it to the Cavs. His handle sucks. He nearly turned it over at the end of the 4th quarter when the Cavs still thought they had a chance.

His other strength - efficient scoring - you keep pushing for, he freaking choked for 3 games in the biggest stage of his life - 35 points on 39 shots with 1 FT <- is that efficient? 3 of 5 games in the Finals. Also 9 assists and 10 rebounds OVER THREE FINALS GAMES. Even Iguodala pulled 8 boards in ONE game. What scheme? Klay leaks out so others rebound and he scores? Did he score? The team build this scheme because Klay sucks at rebounding. Might as well have him leak out since he won't be of any help. Don't use a scheme to hide his weakness.

Klay freaking choked in the Finals. He is making $70 million. I don't see how he is better than Paul George, and you are still the only one who thinks so.

His D on Lebron? I can't blame anyone for failing to contain Lebron. But having watched Butler defend Lebron, I won't even rank Klay ahead of Butler as a SG.

You can argue all day if you want. When you are the only one among Warriors/Klay fans who think Klay is > PG, you just need to admit you are wrong.

I will stop arguing on re: Klay > PG at this, as I have said everything I would ever want to comment on this weird Klay > PG topic already. Love is blind. Have fun with the Space Cadet in Mars and we are in the Finals.

LOL...I don't love Klay, but I also dont have a two second attention span like you seem to have. Players have good offensive games, they have bad offensive games. It's what they do over the long haul that proves their metal. Klay is one of the best shooting guards in the league by the numbers, and he continues to get better, which is why he's getting love from all around the league (but apparently not with Klaters like yourself).

Given YOUR love for PG, I can only assume you were one of the guys insisting that Love was a top 5 player in the league that we could not miss trading for no matter what. Your love for players who have yet to prove themselves on any stage is humorous if nothing else.

Don't put words in my mouth. That's what you have come down to? I don't love PG. I just think Klay is overrated on this board and he is definitely not > PG.

I did not want to include Klay for Love. Oh and choking in 3 Finals games is not just a few off games.

You are still the only one who thinks Klay is better than PG on a Warriors board. Go figure.

[clyde21]

Wait wait wait...are people really trying to argue that Klay is better than PG13?

And people think he ISN'T getting overrated?

[JimmyTD3]

Done with this site and this forum.

Just a cesspool of trolls and negativity.

We're one game away from a freaking NBA championship, which I have been been waiting my whole life for, and people are arguing about how over-rated our players are. Unbelievable.

I'm going to enjoy our NBA title and find some other place to talk ball where I don't feel like punching a wall every time I log in. The level of discussion in this forum has officially crashed through the floor

Enjoy discussing how over-rated our players are everybody! Sounds like a lot of fun!

[ILOVEIT]

I am not trying to pull the mob on you. Since I don't think any sane fan would rank Klay ahead of Paul George. So I ask in this thread since it is the most likely place for someone to agree that Klay is better than PG - this is the Warriors forum, we are debating whether Klay is overrated in this thread and many who think Klay is great/underrated unfairly are in this thread as well. Still, you are still the only one saying Klay > PG.

Klay cannot rebound because he sucks at it. I watched in Oracle and re-watched the whole damn game at home. He got a rebound, 2-handed, and STILL lose it to the Cavs. His handle sucks. He nearly turned it over at the end of the 4th quarter when the Cavs still thought they had a chance.

His other strength - efficient scoring - you keep pushing for, he freaking choked for 3 games in the biggest stage of his life - 35 points on 39 shots with 1 FT <- is that efficient? 3 of 5 games in the Finals. Also 9 assists and 10 rebounds OVER THREE FINALS GAMES. Even Iguodala pulled 8 boards in ONE game. What scheme? Klay leaks out so others rebound and he scores? Did he score? The team build this scheme because Klay sucks at rebounding. Might as well have him leak out since he won't be of any help. Don't use a scheme to hide his weakness.

Klay freaking choked in the Finals. He is making $70 million. I don't see how he is better than Paul George, and you are still the only one who thinks so.

His D on Lebron? I can't blame anyone for failing to contain Lebron. But having watched Butler defend Lebron, I won't even rank Klay ahead of Butler as a SG.

You can argue all day if you want. When you are the only one among Warriors/Klay fans who think Klay is > PG, you just need to admit you are wrong.

I will stop arguing on re: Klay > PG at this, as I have said everything I would ever want to comment on this weird Klay > PG topic already. Love is blind. Have fun with the Space Cadet in Mars and we are in the Finals.

LOL...I don't love Klay, but I also dont have a two second attention span like you seem to have. Players have good offensive games, they have bad offensive games. It's what they do over the long haul that proves their metal. Klay is one of the best shooting guards in the league by the numbers, and he continues to get better, which is why he's getting love from all around the league (but apparently not with Klaters like yourself).

Given YOUR love for PG, I can only assume you were one of the guys insisting that Love was a top 5 player in the league that we could not miss trading for no matter what. Your love for players who have yet to prove themselves on any stage is humorous if nothing else.

Don't put words in my mouth. That's what you have come down to? I don't love PG. I just think Klay is overrated on this board and he is definitely not > PG.

I did not want to include Klay for Love. Oh and choking in 3 Finals games is not just a few off games.

You are still the only one who thinks Klay is better than PG on a Warriors board. Go figure.

The story that won't be really covered is how bad Klay has been offensively in the finals. Curry, Iggy, Green have ensure that but leading the Warriors to a 3-2 lead.

But let's give Klay, Barnes a break here.....both are young....Klay has been great overall in the regular season and very spotty in the playoffs....OFFENSIVELY.

But he has continued to help....hitting some shots and shutting down players when asked to. He's been guarding JR and Delldova a lot....and how have they faired?

This finals run will add to Klay and HB's experience level and next year...ouch....I feel bad for the rest of the league (but not THAT bad)

[a8bil]

I am not trying to pull the mob on you. Since I don't think any sane fan would rank Klay ahead of Paul George. So I ask in this thread since it is the most likely place for someone to agree that Klay is better than PG - this is the Warriors forum, we are debating whether Klay is overrated in this thread and many who think Klay is great/underrated unfairly are in this thread as well. Still, you are still the only one saying Klay > PG.

Klay cannot rebound because he sucks at it. I watched in Oracle and re-watched the whole damn game at home. He got a rebound, 2-handed, and STILL lose it to the Cavs. His handle sucks. He nearly turned it over at the end of the 4th quarter when the Cavs still thought they had a chance.

His other strength - efficient scoring - you keep pushing for, he freaking choked for 3 games in the biggest stage of his life - 35 points on 39 shots with 1 FT <- is that efficient? 3 of 5 games in the Finals. Also 9 assists and 10 rebounds OVER THREE FINALS GAMES. Even Iguodala pulled 8 boards in ONE game. What scheme? Klay leaks out so others rebound and he scores? Did he score? The team build this scheme because Klay sucks at rebounding. Might as well have him leak out since he won't be of any help. Don't use a scheme to hide his weakness.

Klay freaking choked in the Finals. He is making $70 million. I don't see how he is better than Paul George, and you are still the only one who thinks so.

His D on Lebron? I can't blame anyone for failing to contain Lebron. But having watched Butler defend Lebron, I won't even rank Klay ahead of Butler as a SG.

You can argue all day if you want. When you are the only one among Warriors/Klay fans who think Klay is > PG, you just need to admit you are wrong.

I will stop arguing on re: Klay > PG at this, as I have said everything I would ever want to comment on this weird Klay > PG topic already. Love is blind. Have fun with the Space Cadet in Mars and we are in the Finals.

LOL...I don't love Klay, but I also dont have a two second attention span like you seem to have. Players have good offensive games, they have bad offensive games. It's what they do over the long haul that proves their metal. Klay is one of the best shooting guards in the league by the numbers, and he continues to get better, which is why he's getting love from all around the league (but apparently not with Klaters like yourself).

Given YOUR love for PG, I can only assume you were one of the guys insisting that Love was a top 5 player in the league that we could not miss trading for no matter what. Your love for players who have yet to prove themselves on any stage is humorous if nothing else.

Don't put words in my mouth. That's what you have come down to? I don't love PG. I just think Klay is overrated on this board and he is definitely not > PG.

I did not want to include Klay for Love. Oh and choking in 3 Finals games is not just a few off games.

You are still the only one who thinks Klay is better than PG on a Warriors board. Go figure.

Whatever...take a break from the games at your keyboard and ponder these stats from the last two full years of 3 players careers, and tell me, without checking stats, which is the tier one superstar, or whatever you want to call George, from which there is a huge drop off. Dont cheat.

#1 #2 #3
FG% 42.1 45.4 45.5
3PT% 36.3% 42.8% 34.5
RP36 7.0 3.35 6.1
AP36 3.7 2.72 3.34
TOP36 2.8 1.92 2.97
BKP36 .45 .66 .71
STlP36 1.19 1.09 1.21
PTS P36 19.1 21.35 21.05
TS% .531/.555 .555/.591 .540/.556


My point has never been that Klay is absolutely better than George. I have said I would take him 80% of the time over George -- I only contested your absurd assertion that George was in a tier far about Klay, Butler, etc. You have the over the top takes on players but when it comes to backing up your position, you can't cite facts...you just harp on your opinion. BTW, statistically you might have difficulty distinguishing George from....Rudy Gay. LOL. that's right. You're "superstar" can't separate himself from a journeyman most teams wont touch with a 10 ft pole. What does that tell ya?

[cpower]

LOL...I don't love Klay, but I also dont have a two second attention span like you seem to have. Players have good offensive games, they have bad offensive games. It's what they do over the long haul that proves their metal. Klay is one of the best shooting guards in the league by the numbers, and he continues to get better, which is why he's getting love from all around the league (but apparently not with Klaters like yourself).

Given YOUR love for PG, I can only assume you were one of the guys insisting that Love was a top 5 player in the league that we could not miss trading for no matter what. Your love for players who have yet to prove themselves on any stage is humorous if nothing else.

Don't put words in my mouth. That's what you have come down to? I don't love PG. I just think Klay is overrated on this board and he is definitely not > PG.

I did not want to include Klay for Love. Oh and choking in 3 Finals games is not just a few off games.

You are still the only one who thinks Klay is better than PG on a Warriors board. Go figure.

Whatever...take a break from the games at your keyboard and ponder these stats from the last two full years of 3 players careers, and tell me, without checking stats, which is the tier one superstar, or whatever you want to call George, from which there is a huge drop off. Dont cheat.

#1 #2 #3
FG% 42.1 45.4 45.5
3PT% 36.3% 42.8% 34.5
RP36 7.0 3.35 6.1
AP36 3.7 2.72 3.34
TOP36 2.8 1.92 2.97
BKP36 .45 .66 .71
STlP36 1.19 1.09 1.21
PTS P36 19.1 21.35 21.05
TS% .531/.555 .555/.591 .540/.556


My point has never been that Klay is absolutely better than George. I have said I would take him 80% of the time over George -- I only contested your absurd assertion that George was in a tier far about Klay, Butler, etc. You have the over the top takes on players but when it comes to backing up your position, you can't cite facts...you just harp on your opinion. BTW, statistically you might have difficulty distinguishing George from....Rudy Gay. LOL. that's right. You're "superstar" can't separate himself from a journeyman most teams wont touch with a 10 ft pole. What does that tell ya?

Klay 's numbers are far worse. in PS he is 15 PER, in finals he is 0.52TS% He isn't better on offense now and remember he is on NBA 3rd team, are you kidding me?

[InWestWeTrust]

Put PG13 on this squad right now and we wouldnt be having no game 6 today.

Instead we'd most likely be celebrating a 4-0 sweep in downtown Oakland for a parade.

[and1GS]

PG13 doesn't play SG though so kinda a moot point.

[kaiballz]

why the heck are people comparing PG and Klay? klay is the 6th best wing in the nba. is that not good enough? how the heck can he be overrated when he is the 6th best wing in the nba. those 5 names are all SUPERSTARS, kawhi has won finals mvp, the rest have all won mvps except harden and pg. insane.

[Coxy]

Oh Klay, such a space cadet.

[6rings4LeClutch]

He returned to being streaky without having a good game so yes hes overrated.

[bigsby1]

Cmon guys. Let's be honest. I thought he was overpaid when he got the max, overpaid when he scored 37 in a quarter and sure has hell overpaid/overrated in this finals. He does not have the clutch gene to be paid $17m a year and the moment was too big for him. I hope the game slows down for him in future playoffs... But for now def overpaid and overrated.


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[Kuya]

[BayArea408415]

Yes, Klay is overrated but he works with our system as the no. 2 option. He is streaky (see Game 2) and inconsistent as these playoffs have showed. I do like his work defensively though as even if he has an off night offensively, he will work on defense.

Not sure if Klay will ever get All NBA again unless he really improves his shot creation, handles when driving and broadens some of his shot selection. Also, really needs to improve his passing and foul selection.

[DreDay]

Well so much for 25 points...

Personally Klay should develop a dominant post game. He's 6-7, taller than a lot of the combo guards that play SG and can do work against most of the NBA. Let him develop his post fade, dropsteps, hooks, stepbacks, pumpfakes etc. and he can become an elite 25ppg scorer. I see Klay in the post even now and I see high potential there for a great player.