Giannis

[ShayDee]

**** I'm Late

[The Maestro]

[wco81]

OK, Magic beat Bucks in game 1.

They shot 39% from 3, which you normally would not expect. But I recall seeing somewhere that the Bucks give up a lot of 3-point looks, don't close out that hard as you might think.

Even if they do win this series, they're working to beat a #8 seed, unless they win the next 4 games easily. That's going to be tough for them against better opponents.

So let's say Bucks fail to meet expectations and Giannis wants out.

I'm not so sure his fit is that great on the Warriors. Yes 2-time MVP but on the Warriors he would presumably be no better than the #2 option to a soon to be 33 year old Curry.

Is he willing to do that?

He would have more spacing so maybe he'd thrive more -- though Bucks have very good perimeter shooting. But his greater value is to try to get into the paint and kick the ball out.

Of course he could rebound and push the break though not sure he'd necessarily be better at that than Draymond who starts fast breaks and is great at finding open shooters or Iggy diving to the basket

Obviously huge for rim protection but like I said, the Bucks don't close 3-point shooters aggressively so he may face more blow bys and having to rotate over.

Thing I noticed too is teams are not always trying to wall up against him in transition, meaning that defenses are staying home with shooters. I guess he could attack the basket one on one more in those transition plays.

Not sure the fit would be as perfect as people assume, though obviously they'd want him.

[The Maestro]

OK, Magic beat Bucks in game 1.

They shot 39% from 3, which you normally would not expect. But I recall seeing somewhere that the Bucks give up a lot of 3-point looks, don't close out that hard as you might think.

Even if they do win this series, they're working to beat a #8 seed, unless they win the next 4 games easily. That's going to be tough for them against better opponents.

So let's say Bucks fail to meet expectations and Giannis wants out.

I'm not so sure his fit is that great on the Warriors. Yes 2-time MVP but on the Warriors he would presumably be no better than the #2 option to a soon to be 33 year old Curry.

Is he willing to do that?

He would have more spacing so maybe he'd thrive more -- though Bucks have very good perimeter shooting. But his greater value is to try to get into the paint and kick the ball out.

Of course he could rebound and push the break though not sure he'd necessarily be better at that than Draymond who starts fast breaks and is great at finding open shooters or Iggy diving to the basket

Obviously huge for rim protection but like I said, the Bucks don't close 3-point shooters aggressively so he may face more blow bys and having to rotate over.

Thing I noticed too is teams are not always trying to wall up against him in transition, meaning that defenses are staying home with shooters. I guess he could attack the basket one on one more in those transition plays.

Not sure the fit would be as perfect as people assume, though obviously they'd want him.

He’s a perfect fit on the Warriors. The space he’s have to operate would be ridiculous. He’s never played with that freedom and space. He’s an absolute perfect fit.

[MintFresh]

I cant believe this guy said that Giannis wouldn't be the perfect fit for the Warriors. Imagine the spacing. Also Giannis is so much better at driving to the basket then Iggy

Edit: he would want to play for the warriors so he can get easier looks. Kind of like how KD got easy looks

[wco81]

KD was the perfect fit, with the shotmaking and playmaking skills and defense.

Giannis would bring youth and athleticism to the team but he's not going to get you the big basket on crucial possession like KD did.

He would be a monster on the board and pushing fast breaks. I think Draymond is probably better for pushing the ball and making the right pass but of course Giannis can learn that.

Obviously he'd be a huge addition. But again we'd be going for a top-heavy roster, with the risks you have from lack of depth.

[ShayDee]

Bro, Curry/Klay running offscreens, when Giannis is the last screen and the double comes to contest just pass it to Giannis and he will finish against who is under the basket? It's a pretty simple play and it will be very hard to guard

[yoyoboy]

If Milwaukee fails to win it all this year, they're not trading Giannis no matter how good the package is. Even if he blatantly said he wants out, they'd do everything they could to run it back next season, convince him to stay, and try to capitalize on a GOAT level talent being in small market Milwaukee which all the lottery picks in the world can't replicate.

And if they don't win it all in 2021 either, Giannis will just walk away imo.

[B-King]

KD was the perfect fit, with the shotmaking and playmaking skills and defense.

Giannis would bring youth and athleticism to the team but he's not going to get you the big basket on crucial possession like KD did.

He would be a monster on the board and pushing fast breaks. I think Draymond is probably better for pushing the ball and making the right pass but of course Giannis can learn that.

Obviously he'd be a huge addition. But again we'd be going for a top-heavy roster, with the risks you have from lack of depth.

KD is the ultimate weapon, but the Warriors all deferred shot attempts to him towards the end. With Giannis, the ability to be more balanced at the end of the game with the last shot being more distributed among the group. Both options work for me.

[wco81]

If Bucks let Giannis walk for nothing, that would be even a bigger colossal mistake.

If they don't win it this year, they have no path to be better next year, unless other contenders suffer setbacks.

They should have kept Brogdon, even if they had to pay the tax, just to show Giannis they did everything they could to surround him with talent and keep that talent.

[ShayDee]

If Bucks let Giannis walk for nothing, that would be even a bigger colossal mistake.

If they don't win it this year, they have no path to be better next year, unless other contenders suffer setbacks.

They should have kept Brogdon, even if they had to pay the tax, just to show Giannis they did everything they could to surround him with talent and keep that talent.

Next year the Nets would be the best team in the East barring injuries. How the hell would the bucks get past them? With no way to improve their roster and their main guys getting 1 year older(they already pretty old). I think they would do a sign and trade after the season or would deal him at trade deadline if the team is looking bad

[The Maestro]

Milwaukee would be dumb to let him walk for nothing if he tells them he’s leaving no matter what. They’ll never sign a superstar free agent so stock piling draft picks and building that way is the way to go and then fill in with solid players from free agency.

[Warriors Analyst]

I'm sad watching this Bucks team implode. My dream scenario last year nearly came to fruition with a Warriors-Bucks finals. I would have wanted the Warriors to win in 7 games on a buzzer beater by Steph, but alas. I dreamt of several years of Warriors-Bucks in the Finals with each series going to 7, each ending on a buzzer beater by Giannis or Steph so that there was never an issue with all the dumb narratives of choking. I just wanted my two favorite teams to be respected and win oodles of championships at minimal expense to each other.

But yeah, seems like Milwaukee is in a bad place and unless they get it together, which they probably won't because of the absence of secondary ball-handlers, I can't see Giannis staying. So now I'm actually starting to contemplate life with Giannis. I've loved him since he was a rookie, which is how I ended up watching so much of them over the last few years, but he's a flawed player. His shot is broken and his free throw shooting is getting worse every year. I called him a 7'0 Iguodala as a rookie and said that was his absolute floor as a player. I didn't expect him to mirror Andre's shooting woes too.

I have no expectation he'll ever become a consistent shooter or someone you can rely on in crunch time. So this means, to me, Giannis needs to become a full time center, especially if he comes here. Unless you get a legit high volume stretch 5 next to Giannis, the spacing is going to be a mess with Green and Giannis sharing the floor. Giannis at center will be filthy. Imagine the Steph/Giannis pick and rolls -- should Kerr run them more than twice a game. I imagine Paschall and Smailagic go in a trade for Giannis, as do all our picks. I'd love to grab Spellman back with the TPE. I'd go into the season with something like this:

Steph/ Poole / Bowman
Klay / Mulder / GRIII
Lee / GRIII / Klay
Green / Spellman / Toscano-Anderson
Giannis / Chriss / Looney

We'd actually use the 2nd's this year. Maybe someone like Bane falls.

[Onus]

Giving up open 3s in the bubble is going to be a death sentence. Both the lakers and bucks give up a lot of 3s. Neither are making the finals

[Flash Falcon X]

People say Kd was the perfect fit because he could shoot, but imagine Giannis playing with 2016 Steph Curry.

That’s pretty much how the Warriors would look with Giannis. Because Steph would still be the superstar shooter at the end of games, whereas Giannis would be our slasher. Unlike KD where Steph took a step back to let KD take any shot he wanted, I feel like Giannis would dominate in games but will let Steph be the one to hit all kinds of crazy shots from the perimeter.

Perfect match without Giannis or Steph having to take a step back with their games.

[Coxy]

If Bucks let Giannis walk for nothing, that would be even a bigger colossal mistake.

If they don't win it this year, they have no path to be better next year, unless other contenders suffer setbacks.

They should have kept Brogdon, even if they had to pay the tax, just to show Giannis they did everything they could to surround him with talent and keep that talent.

Agreed about Brogdon. He's a great player, no idea why they chose to let him walk and keep Bledsoe and Hill. Crazy.

[ShayDee]

I'm sad watching this Bucks team implode. My dream scenario last year nearly came to fruition with a Warriors-Bucks finals. I would have wanted the Warriors to win in 7 games on a buzzer beater by Steph, but alas. I dreamt of several years of Warriors-Bucks in the Finals with each series going to 7, each ending on a buzzer beater by Giannis or Steph so that there was never an issue with all the dumb narratives of choking. I just wanted my two favorite teams to be respected and win oodles of championships at minimal expense to each other.

But yeah, seems like Milwaukee is in a bad place and unless they get it together, which they probably won't because of the absence of secondary ball-handlers, I can't see Giannis staying. So now I'm actually starting to contemplate life with Giannis. I've loved him since he was a rookie, which is how I ended up watching so much of them over the last few years, but he's a flawed player. His shot is broken and his free throw shooting is getting worse every year. I called him a 7'0 Iguodala as a rookie and said that was his absolute floor as a player. I didn't expect him to mirror Andre's shooting woes too.

I have no expectation he'll ever become a consistent shooter or someone you can rely on in crunch time. So this means, to me, Giannis needs to become a full time center, especially if he comes here. Unless you get a legit high volume stretch 5 next to Giannis, the spacing is going to be a mess with Green and Giannis sharing the floor. Giannis at center will be filthy. Imagine the Steph/Giannis pick and rolls -- should Kerr run them more than twice a game. I imagine Paschall and Smailagic go in a trade for Giannis, as do all our picks. I'd love to grab Spellman back with the TPE. I'd go into the season with something like this:

Steph/ Poole / Bowman
Klay / Mulder / GRIII
Lee / GRIII / Klay
Green / Spellman / Toscano-Anderson
Giannis / Chriss / Looney

We'd actually use the 2nd's this year. Maybe someone like Bane falls.

If Giannis is getting traded, would find a way to try and get Brook Lopez and Bledsoe in the deal or one of the 2. One will be adsorbed in TPE. Giannis Bros will also be added in the deal cuz nepotism

Steph/ Bledsoe / Poole
Klay / Lee / Mulder
Green / GRIII / Klay
Giannis / Spellman / Thanasis
Lopez / Chriss / Looney

We can still use MLE for someone like Dragic, Reggie Jackson, Milsap, Favors

Use 2nds to grab depth at SG/SF
Sam Merril, Bane(trade for high 2nd), John Petty, Malik Fits, Elijah Hughes, Isaiah Joe

[Warriors Analyst]

I'm sad watching this Bucks team implode. My dream scenario last year nearly came to fruition with a Warriors-Bucks finals. I would have wanted the Warriors to win in 7 games on a buzzer beater by Steph, but alas. I dreamt of several years of Warriors-Bucks in the Finals with each series going to 7, each ending on a buzzer beater by Giannis or Steph so that there was never an issue with all the dumb narratives of choking. I just wanted my two favorite teams to be respected and win oodles of championships at minimal expense to each other.

But yeah, seems like Milwaukee is in a bad place and unless they get it together, which they probably won't because of the absence of secondary ball-handlers, I can't see Giannis staying. So now I'm actually starting to contemplate life with Giannis. I've loved him since he was a rookie, which is how I ended up watching so much of them over the last few years, but he's a flawed player. His shot is broken and his free throw shooting is getting worse every year. I called him a 7'0 Iguodala as a rookie and said that was his absolute floor as a player. I didn't expect him to mirror Andre's shooting woes too.

I have no expectation he'll ever become a consistent shooter or someone you can rely on in crunch time. So this means, to me, Giannis needs to become a full time center, especially if he comes here. Unless you get a legit high volume stretch 5 next to Giannis, the spacing is going to be a mess with Green and Giannis sharing the floor. Giannis at center will be filthy. Imagine the Steph/Giannis pick and rolls -- should Kerr run them more than twice a game. I imagine Paschall and Smailagic go in a trade for Giannis, as do all our picks. I'd love to grab Spellman back with the TPE. I'd go into the season with something like this:

Steph/ Poole / Bowman
Klay / Mulder / GRIII
Lee / GRIII / Klay
Green / Spellman / Toscano-Anderson
Giannis / Chriss / Looney

We'd actually use the 2nd's this year. Maybe someone like Bane falls.

If Giannis is getting traded, would find a way to try and get Brook Lopez and Bledsoe in the deal or one of the 2. One will be adsorbed in TPE. Giannis Bros will also be added in the deal cuz nepotism

Steph/ Bledsoe / Poole
Klay / Lee / Mulder
Green / GRIII / Klay
Giannis / Spellman / Thanasis
Lopez / Chriss / Looney

We can still use MLE for someone like Dragic, Reggie Jackson, Milsap, Favors

Use 2nds to grab depth at SG/SF
Sam Merril, Bane(trade for high 2nd), John Petty, Malik Fits, Elijah Hughes, Isaiah Joe

Big pass on Bledsoe. He’s a big reason the Bucks are imploding. Brook is fine, but again, Giannis should be a center and Brook prevents that.

[ShayDee]

I'm sad watching this Bucks team implode. My dream scenario last year nearly came to fruition with a Warriors-Bucks finals. I would have wanted the Warriors to win in 7 games on a buzzer beater by Steph, but alas. I dreamt of several years of Warriors-Bucks in the Finals with each series going to 7, each ending on a buzzer beater by Giannis or Steph so that there was never an issue with all the dumb narratives of choking. I just wanted my two favorite teams to be respected and win oodles of championships at minimal expense to each other.

But yeah, seems like Milwaukee is in a bad place and unless they get it together, which they probably won't because of the absence of secondary ball-handlers, I can't see Giannis staying. So now I'm actually starting to contemplate life with Giannis. I've loved him since he was a rookie, which is how I ended up watching so much of them over the last few years, but he's a flawed player. His shot is broken and his free throw shooting is getting worse every year. I called him a 7'0 Iguodala as a rookie and said that was his absolute floor as a player. I didn't expect him to mirror Andre's shooting woes too.

I have no expectation he'll ever become a consistent shooter or someone you can rely on in crunch time. So this means, to me, Giannis needs to become a full time center, especially if he comes here. Unless you get a legit high volume stretch 5 next to Giannis, the spacing is going to be a mess with Green and Giannis sharing the floor. Giannis at center will be filthy. Imagine the Steph/Giannis pick and rolls -- should Kerr run them more than twice a game. I imagine Paschall and Smailagic go in a trade for Giannis, as do all our picks. I'd love to grab Spellman back with the TPE. I'd go into the season with something like this:

Steph/ Poole / Bowman
Klay / Mulder / GRIII
Lee / GRIII / Klay
Green / Spellman / Toscano-Anderson
Giannis / Chriss / Looney

We'd actually use the 2nd's this year. Maybe someone like Bane falls.

If Giannis is getting traded, would find a way to try and get Brook Lopez and Bledsoe in the deal or one of the 2. One will be adsorbed in TPE. Giannis Bros will also be added in the deal cuz nepotism

Steph/ Bledsoe / Poole
Klay / Lee / Mulder
Green / GRIII / Klay
Giannis / Spellman / Thanasis
Lopez / Chriss / Looney

We can still use MLE for someone like Dragic, Reggie Jackson, Milsap, Favors

Use 2nds to grab depth at SG/SF
Sam Merril, Bane(trade for high 2nd), John Petty, Malik Fits, Elijah Hughes, Isaiah Joe

Big pass on Bledsoe. He’s a big reason the Bucks are imploding. Brook is fine, but again, Giannis should be a center and Brook prevents that.

Well Giannis can be the C, Brook would be splash mountain and more bodies to defend the paint. Giannis would be C in the of game situations

Beldoe, Curry, Klay, Dray, Giannis or

Curry Klay Dray Spellman Giannis

[The Maestro]

I'm sad watching this Bucks team implode. My dream scenario last year nearly came to fruition with a Warriors-Bucks finals. I would have wanted the Warriors to win in 7 games on a buzzer beater by Steph, but alas. I dreamt of several years of Warriors-Bucks in the Finals with each series going to 7, each ending on a buzzer beater by Giannis or Steph so that there was never an issue with all the dumb narratives of choking. I just wanted my two favorite teams to be respected and win oodles of championships at minimal expense to each other.

But yeah, seems like Milwaukee is in a bad place and unless they get it together, which they probably won't because of the absence of secondary ball-handlers, I can't see Giannis staying. So now I'm actually starting to contemplate life with Giannis. I've loved him since he was a rookie, which is how I ended up watching so much of them over the last few years, but he's a flawed player. His shot is broken and his free throw shooting is getting worse every year. I called him a 7'0 Iguodala as a rookie and said that was his absolute floor as a player. I didn't expect him to mirror Andre's shooting woes too.

I have no expectation he'll ever become a consistent shooter or someone you can rely on in crunch time. So this means, to me, Giannis needs to become a full time center, especially if he comes here. Unless you get a legit high volume stretch 5 next to Giannis, the spacing is going to be a mess with Green and Giannis sharing the floor. Giannis at center will be filthy. Imagine the Steph/Giannis pick and rolls -- should Kerr run them more than twice a game. I imagine Paschall and Smailagic go in a trade for Giannis, as do all our picks. I'd love to grab Spellman back with the TPE. I'd go into the season with something like this:

Steph/ Poole / Bowman
Klay / Mulder / GRIII
Lee / GRIII / Klay
Green / Spellman / Toscano-Anderson
Giannis / Chriss / Looney

We'd actually use the 2nd's this year. Maybe someone like Bane falls.

If Giannis is getting traded, would find a way to try and get Brook Lopez and Bledsoe in the deal or one of the 2. One will be adsorbed in TPE. Giannis Bros will also be added in the deal cuz nepotism

Steph/ Bledsoe / Poole
Klay / Lee / Mulder
Green / GRIII / Klay
Giannis / Spellman / Thanasis
Lopez / Chriss / Looney

We can still use MLE for someone like Dragic, Reggie Jackson, Milsap, Favors

Use 2nds to grab depth at SG/SF
Sam Merril, Bane(trade for high 2nd), John Petty, Malik Fits, Elijah Hughes, Isaiah Joe

Big pass on Bledsoe. He’s a big reason the Bucks are imploding. Brook is fine, but again, Giannis should be a center and Brook prevents that.

There’s a decent chance the warriors will
have to take Bledsoe if they get Giannis