CLIPPERS ARE DONE!! Bet the farm, wife and even the dog on Denver

[TinoDubs]

I like JW and think the biggest thing he brought to the Warriors and the Clippers when he arrived on the scene is legitimacy. What I can't stand are the Warriors' fans who think he walks on water and credit all of the teams success to him and any missteps to his absence. Yes, Kawhi said get me PG and I will sign but that doesn't mean you put yourself over a barrel to be taken advantage of. The Clippers overpaid for PG when you compare it to what the Lakers gave up for a better player in AD. And to top it off, this is a two year window, Kawhi and PG can walk after next year if they don't win it all and leave the Clippers without any star talent and no draft picks for the foreseeable future. I don't even think there is any lottery pick protection in the event those two leave and the Clippers miss the playoffs.

It was a shock at a time when both Kawhi and PG signed with the Clippers, right? I'm sure that they talked in the back, Kawhi probably want another superstar to come on board with him, and PG is on the table at a time. The Clippers made that trade knowing that they will get 2 superstars, so to me, all those picks for 2 players, not just PG. And those picks the Clippers gave up, they are probably will be a low picks anyway (checkout our 1st rnd picks for the last 5 years, mostly trash). They think with Kawhi and PG, they can lure in some decent players via free agent market. The issue here is that they have to win in 2 years window, or else ....

This is such an apologist point of view. They are two separate transactions, Kawhi a FA and a trade for PG. They overpaid. Those picks wont be low if they don't win it next year and those two walk.

Really? You really believe that Kawhi will go to the Clippers without knowing that PG13 or another star will join him? Didn't both of them joined the Clippers on a same day or a day after? and both got a almost exact contract. Kawhi did try to recruit KD to LACj, but KD already committed to join the Nets with his friend Kyrie

[TinoDubs]

It was a shock at a time when both Kawhi and PG signed with the Clippers, right? I'm sure that they talked in the back, Kawhi probably want another superstar to come on board with him, and PG is on the table at a time. The Clippers made that trade knowing that they will get 2 superstars, so to me, all those picks for 2 players, not just PG. And those picks the Clippers gave up, they are probably will be a low picks anyway (checkout our 1st rnd picks for the last 5 years, mostly trash). They think with Kawhi and PG, they can lure in some decent players via free agent market. The issue here is that they have to win in 2 years window, or else ....

This is such an apologist point of view. They are two separate transactions, Kawhi a FA and a trade for PG. They overpaid. Those picks wont be low if they don't win it next year and those two walk.

Really? You really believe that Kawhi will go to the Clippers without knowing that PG13 or another star will join him? Didn't both of them joined the Clippers on a same day or a day after? and both got a almost exact contract. Kawhi did try to recruit KD to LACj, but KD already committed to join the Nets with his friend Kyrie

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27130335/how-kawhi-pulled-paul-george-away-okc

[floppymoose]

I like JW and think the biggest thing he brought to the Warriors and the Clippers when he arrived on the scene is legitimacy. What I can't stand are the Warriors' fans who think he walks on water and credit all of the teams success to him and any missteps to his absence. Yes, Kawhi said get me PG and I will sign but that doesn't mean you put yourself over a barrel to be taken advantage of. The Clippers overpaid for PG when you compare it to what the Lakers gave up for a better player in AD. And to top it off, this is a two year window, Kawhi and PG can walk after next year if they don't win it all and leave the Clippers without any star talent and no draft picks for the foreseeable future. I don't even think there is any lottery pick protection in the event those two leave and the Clippers miss the playoffs.

It was a shock at a time when both Kawhi and PG signed with the Clippers, right? I'm sure that they talked in the back, Kawhi probably want another superstar to come on board with him, and PG is on the table at a time. The Clippers made that trade knowing that they will get 2 superstars, so to me, all those picks for 2 players, not just PG. And those picks the Clippers gave up, they are probably will be a low picks anyway (checkout our 1st rnd picks for the last 5 years, mostly trash). They think with Kawhi and PG, they can lure in some decent players via free agent market. The issue here is that they have to win in 2 years window, or else ....

This is such an apologist point of view. They are two separate transactions, Kawhi a FA and a trade for PG. They overpaid. Those picks wont be low if they don't win it next year and those two walk.

I think the idea is that Kawhi would not have come without the PG trade. So the only realistic way to look at the PG trade is as a package deal: a trade for PG plus winning the Kawhi Free Agent sweepstakes.

[whatisacenter]

It was a shock at a time when both Kawhi and PG signed with the Clippers, right? I'm sure that they talked in the back, Kawhi probably want another superstar to come on board with him, and PG is on the table at a time. The Clippers made that trade knowing that they will get 2 superstars, so to me, all those picks for 2 players, not just PG. And those picks the Clippers gave up, they are probably will be a low picks anyway (checkout our 1st rnd picks for the last 5 years, mostly trash). They think with Kawhi and PG, they can lure in some decent players via free agent market. The issue here is that they have to win in 2 years window, or else ....

This is such an apologist point of view. They are two separate transactions, Kawhi a FA and a trade for PG. They overpaid. Those picks wont be low if they don't win it next year and those two walk.

I think the idea is that Kawhi would not have come without the PG trade. So the only realistic way to look at the PG trade is as a package deal: a trade for PG plus winning the Kawhi Free Agent sweepstakes.

I stated and understand that Kawhi would only sign as a free agent with the Clippers if they traded for PG but that doesn't mean you have to overpay for him. I get that some people want to look at it like they were trading that package for two players but they weren't. If the Clippers win the title next year it will have been worth it...if not???

[TinoDubs]

This is such an apologist point of view. They are two separate transactions, Kawhi a FA and a trade for PG. They overpaid. Those picks wont be low if they don't win it next year and those two walk.

I think the idea is that Kawhi would not have come without the PG trade. So the only realistic way to look at the PG trade is as a package deal: a trade for PG plus winning the Kawhi Free Agent sweepstakes.

I stated and understand that Kawhi would only sign as a free agent with the Clippers if they traded for PG but that doesn't mean you have to overpay for him. I get that some people want to look at it like they were trading that package for two players but they weren't. If the Clippers win the title next year it will have been worth it...if not???

AND they put a pressure on the FO as well. A window is 2 years to win, if not ... we MIGHT walk. That's probably a reason why they both have a same contract.

[Onus]

I think the idea is that Kawhi would not have come without the PG trade. So the only realistic way to look at the PG trade is as a package deal: a trade for PG plus winning the Kawhi Free Agent sweepstakes.

I stated and understand that Kawhi would only sign as a free agent with the Clippers if they traded for PG but that doesn't mean you have to overpay for him. I get that some people want to look at it like they were trading that package for two players but they weren't. If the Clippers win the title next year it will have been worth it...if not???

AND they put a pressure on the FO as well. A window is 2 years to win, if not ... we MIGHT walk. That's probably a reason why they both have a same contract.

Which makes it even more funny pg saying this team wasn’t championship or bust. Lmao

[KevinMcreynolds]

You guys think the Nuggs can beat the Lebrons? They're rotation is 10-11 deep and the Lakers are pretty much doo doo beyond Lebron and AD. I'm hoping the depth can overcome the star power.

[ShayDee]

You guys think the Nuggs can beat the Lebrons? They're rotation is 10-11 deep and the Lakers are pretty much doo doo beyond Lebron and AD. I'm hoping the depth can overcome the star power.

If they double team Jokic and the nuggets are not exhausted from previous series then Lakers have no chance, or I should say the nuggets have more of a chance to beat them

[HiRez]

I think the Nuggets would have a better chance if LeBron had gotten worn down by a whole regular season but he's well-rested. Still, I don't give them zero chance, they're a really good team, just haven't proven they can take that last step yet.

If the Nuggs were to go on to win, that's actually bad for us because next year they'd be a proven championship team that doesn't have to get exposure to Finals pressure situations.

[Mav_Carter]

If the Nuggets take them to 6 they'll own the next decade...

[TinoDubs]

You guys think the Nuggs can beat the Lebrons? They're rotation is 10-11 deep and the Lakers are pretty much doo doo beyond Lebron and AD. I'm hoping the depth can overcome the star power.

If they double team Jokic and the nuggets are not exhausted from previous series then Lakers have no chance, or I should say the nuggets have more of a chance to beat them

Hope the Nuggets don't go down 1-3 in the series to start playing hoops. The only way I see the Nuggets winning is if they can hit the 3's

[Mylie10]

Predictable after having a couple of 7 game series. You knew they’d be a bit tired.