Warriors select PG Nico Mannion with the 48th pick

Scoots1994 · Post #121 » by **Scoots1994** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:47 pm

Onus wrote:Add Markus Howard to the list that I’d rather have over nico who is actually playing in the playoffs.

Or Killian Tillie who looked functional this year in his limited games due to injury.

Onus · Post #122 » by **Onus** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:56 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
Onus wrote:Add Markus Howard to the list that I’d rather have over nico who is actually playing in the playoffs.

Or Killian Tillie who looked functional this year in his limited games due to injury.

Yea I liked Killian as well

lars_rosenberg · Post #123 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 1:24 pm

Great game for Nico in the pre-olympic with the Italian national team.
21 points, 6/11 from the field and some good plays. He changed the game.
Italy was down 9 when he stepped into the floor and he lead the team to the win.
I was surprised by how quick his first step was. Hopefully Nico is on the right track.

Scoots1994 · Post #124 » by **Scoots1994** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 2:06 pm

lars_rosenberg wrote:Great game for Nico in the pre-olympic with the Italian national team.
21 points, 6/11 from the field and some good plays. He changed the game.
Italy was down 9 when he stepped into the floor and he lead the team to the win.
I was surprised by how quick his first step was. Hopefully Nico is on the right track.

We saw flashes of it last year, but he seems to drop down to the role of bringing the ball up the court and passing it around with the Warriors. He very seldom was aggressive on offense or defense. I think part of that was no offseason last year. This year with the olympics and summer league and a full pre-season he has a chance to take a big step forward in confidence and the level of attack he brings to the floor. That said, he had a similar issue in college where he was too passive too often.

Post #125 » by **Sleepy51** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 4:50 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
lars_rosenberg wrote:Great game for Nico in the pre-olympic with the Italian national team.
21 points, 6/11 from the field and some good plays. He changed the game.
Italy was down 9 when he stepped into the floor and he lead the team to the win.
I was surprised by how quick his first step was. Hopefully Nico is on the right track.

We saw flashes of it last year, but he seems to drop down to the role of bringing the ball up the court and passing it around with the Warriors. He very seldom was aggressive on offense or defense. I think part of that was no offseason last year. This year with the olympics and summer league and a full pre-season he has a chance to take a big step forward in confidence and the level of attack he brings to the floor. That said, he had a similar issue in college where he was too passive too often.

The main problem last year was that he couldn't turn the corner and get downhill against NBA defenders, even in garbage time. You can't play NBA point guard if you can't get your man on his heels and force the D to start making choices and adjustments. Even if his shooting comes along, he has to be able to initiate at the point of attack or he's not an NBA point guard.

Scoots1994 · Post #126 » by **Scoots1994** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 5:27 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
lars_rosenberg wrote:Great game for Nico in the pre-olympic with the Italian national team.
21 points, 6/11 from the field and some good plays. He changed the game.
Italy was down 9 when he stepped into the floor and he lead the team to the win.
I was surprised by how quick his first step was. Hopefully Nico is on the right track.

We saw flashes of it last year, but he seems to drop down to the role of bringing the ball up the court and passing it around with the Warriors. He very seldom was aggressive on offense or defense. I think part of that was no offseason last year. This year with the olympics and summer league and a full pre-season he has a chance to take a big step forward in confidence and the level of attack he brings to the floor. That said, he had a similar issue in college where he was too passive too often.

The main problem last year was that he couldn't turn the corner and get downhill against NBA defenders, even in garbage time. You can't play NBA point guard if you can't get your man on his heels and force the D to start making choices and adjustments. Even if his shooting comes along, he has to be able to initiate at the point of attack or he's not an NBA point guard.

True, but he didn't even seem to be trying to most of the time. He mostly just moved the ball.

shazam_guy · Post #127 » by **shazam_guy** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 11:57 pm

He's a rookie. Rookie! And the 48th selection. Put him in the G League for the first half of next year, then see what you have. Patience is a virtue everywhere except on fan boards, it seems.

Post #128 » by **FNQ** » Sat Jul 3, 2021 1:53 am

Have to keep him on the roster until someone takes his role. Not exactly brimming with PG options here, and he's got that Jeremy Lin uber-underdog vibe to him. Plus if the power ever cuts out in the Chase Center he basically glows in the dark. Versatility is key

Scoots1994 · Post #129 » by **Scoots1994** » Sat Jul 3, 2021 3:17 pm

FNQ wrote:Have to keep him on the roster until someone takes his role. Not exactly brimming with PG options here, and he's got that Jeremy Lin uber-underdog vibe to him. Plus if the power ever cuts out in the Chase Center he basically glows in the dark. Versatility is key

I do wonder about him vs GP2 if it comes down to it who sticks and who doesn't. GP2 supposedly dominated the practice group that included Poole and Mannion, he's a similar size as Mannion with longer arms, but he's several years older and he probably is what he is and isn't going to change much. That said in limited time his shooting was considerably better than Mannions.

azwfan · Post #130 » by **azwfan** » Sat Jul 3, 2021 6:41 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
FNQ wrote:Have to keep him on the roster until someone takes his role. Not exactly brimming with PG options here, and he's got that Jeremy Lin uber-underdog vibe to him. Plus if the power ever cuts out in the Chase Center he basically glows in the dark. Versatility is key

I do wonder about him vs GP2 if it comes down to it who sticks and who doesn't. GP2 supposedly dominated the practice group that included Poole and Mannion, he's a similar size as Mannion with longer arms, but he's several years older and he probably is what he is and isn't going to change much. That said in limited time his shooting was considerably better than Mannions.

GP2 is 8 years older than Mannion. This is GP2's prime... we have no idea what Nico's prime is going to be.

Nico should be on a 2-way again this year. GP2 should be fighting for the last roster spot. At least that's how I see it.

Scoots1994 · Post #131 » by **Scoots1994** » Sat Jul 3, 2021 11:25 pm

azwfan wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
FNQ wrote:Have to keep him on the roster until someone takes his role. Not exactly brimming with PG options here, and he's got that Jeremy Lin uber-underdog vibe to him. Plus if the power ever cuts out in the Chase Center he basically glows in the dark. Versatility is key

I do wonder about him vs GP2 if it comes down to it who sticks and who doesn't. GP2 supposedly dominated the practice group that included Poole and Mannion, he's a similar size as Mannion with longer arms, but he's several years older and he probably is what he is and isn't going to change much. That said in limited time his shooting was considerably better than Mannions.

GP2 is 8 years older than Mannion. This is GP2's prime... we have no idea what Nico's prime is going to be.

Nico should be on a 2-way again this year. GP2 should be fighting for the last roster spot. At least that's how I see it.

I agree.

lars_rosenberg · Post #132 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:27 am

It's worth noting that Nico is playing very good defense with the national team.
Today they play against Serbia, that even without Jokic and Bogdanovic is still one of the best national teams in the world.
Italy is going to lose, but I'm curious to see if Mannion can play a good game against better competition.

CaptainFanchini · Post #133 » by **CaptainFanchini** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:30 pm

Italy wins against Serbia and goes to Tokio.

Mannion SHINES ... what an improvement ... he will have a very good 2021-2022 season ...

lars_rosenberg · Post #134 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:35 pm

CaptainFanchini wrote:Italy wins against Serbia and goes to Tokio.

Mannion SHINES ... what an improvement ... he will have a very good 2021-2022 season ...

Yeah! Amazing game! Everybody played so damn well!
Nico had a good performance once again and didn't miss any free throws when it counted the most in the final minutes.
You can see he's still raw in some aspects of his game and he definitely needs to make his shot more reliable, but the talent is there.

GSWFan1994 · Post #135 » by **GSWFan1994** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 12:36 am

Happy for Nico. The experience is gonna be invaluable for him.

Hopefully he can have a big jump like Poole did in his 2nd season.

Scoots1994 · Post #136 » by **Scoots1994** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 12:58 am

lars_rosenberg wrote:
CaptainFanchini wrote:Italy wins against Serbia and goes to Tokio.

Mannion SHINES ... what an improvement ... he will have a very good 2021-2022 season ...

Yeah! Amazing game! Everybody played so damn well!
Nico had a good performance once again and didn't miss any free throws when it counted the most in the final minutes.
You can see he's still raw in some aspects of his game and he definitely needs to make his shot more reliable, but the talent is there.

If he can show that aggression in the NBA he'll get the PT.

watch1958 · Post #137 » by **watch1958** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 3:12 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
Sleepy51 wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
We saw flashes of it last year, but he seems to drop down to the role of bringing the ball up the court and passing it around with the Warriors. He very seldom was aggressive on offense or defense. I think part of that was no offseason last year. This year with the olympics and summer league and a full pre-season he has a chance to take a big step forward in confidence and the level of attack he brings to the floor. That said, he had a similar issue in college where he was too passive too often.

The main problem last year was that he couldn't turn the corner and get downhill against NBA defenders, even in garbage time. You can't play NBA point guard if you can't get your man on his heels and force the D to start making choices and adjustments. Even if his shooting comes along, he has to be able to initiate at the point of attack or he's not an NBA point guard.

True, but he didn't even seem to be trying to most of the time. He mostly just moved the ball.

He seems to have been working on that “turning the corner and getting downhill “ stuff.

Post #138 » by **Sleepy51** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 3:47 pm

watch1958 wrote:True, but he didn't even seem to be trying to most of the time. He mostly just moved the ball.

He seems to have been working on that “turning the corner and getting downhill “ stuff.[/quote]

Not trying to poo poo it, but he's playing against a different level of athletic competiton. I'll be more interested in how he looks in summer league.

jaymo123 · Post #139 » by **jaymo123** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 4:31 pm

Just catching up with Mannion playing for Italy. He has looked confident because he knows what the coach expects of him. I hope Kerr lets him grow this year like Poole did late in the season. Mistakes will happen, but don't bench him. He could be a very solid back up for the dubs. Most importantly to the dubs, he is cheap.

I agree with Sleepy51, I want to see how he plays in the Summer League.

xdrta+ · Post #140 » by **xdrta+** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 4:51 pm

IMO, Nico is guaranteed a two-way slot. It could change if another team falls in love with his play for Italy and makes him an offer. He is a RFA, assuming the Warriors tender a qualifying offer, which in his case is a standard two-way salary, with $50,000 protected. But if they have to match a (probably minimum) offer, they would need to give him a standard contract and a roster spot, and the question would be if they want to spend a roster spot on him. That's hard to say.