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Warriors trade Poole, Rollins, Baldwin Jr., 2027 #2, 2030 protected #1 to Wizards for Chris Paul

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Post#121 » by DonaldSanders » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:09 pm

I'm really pumped! We needed a true 6th man/backup PG. Baby CP3 all year, 20-25mpg and he will be fine in the playoffs. We've been missing a 2nd playmaker that can run the 2nd unit more than a big, at least in my opinion.

CP3's metrics last season were great, still a high level player that just needs fewer minutes and less load overall. We did that with OPJ, and while it's no sure thing, we will give CP3 the best chance.

Last season CP3 metrics:
EPM #42
RAPTOR #68

Only Steph had a better EPM, and only Steph/Dray had a better RAPTOR on our team. We don't even need those numbers though, a small decline there and it's still a huge win for us.

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Yep, bunch of folks who can't handle that our chances exist, but they're at a lower % than in the past. We're doing the best we can so far under our new GM. Hopefully there is one more move.

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Post#122 » by Coxy » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:10 pm

marthafokker wrote:I rather use vet min for Richaun Holmes. I love his hustle and flip shots.

Now with CP3, Holmes will get so many dunks.


Good call, I like Holmes.
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Post#123 » by Nvnervous45 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:11 pm

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Draymond and Durant couldn’t co-exist on this team anymore either.

Nahhhhh…I don’t see a pattern.


TBF we did win a title before and after KD with Draymond. He's a difficult personality, but it's also difficult to be a contender for a decade + being difficult sometimes helps with that. Both can be true. And how much success has KD had since he left this difficult personality?


You can be a difficult personality to play with and not humiliate and punch your teammates. Reference Michael Jordan.

Draymond has classic narcissist anger management issues.

The bottom line is Draymond ran off a Top 15-20 all-time player. Who’s the next 20+ PPG teammate he will run off?

So many things wrong with this post. Jordan humiliated horis grant and punched Steve kerr. And poole isn't a top 15-25 player
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Post#124 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:12 pm

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Twinkie defense wrote:Or maybe it turns into two second round picks.


Nope, it cannot unfortunately. 1 2nd maybe, but would Wiz really go for that? I'd wager its closer to the Grizzlies '24 deal

We cant trade a 1st more than 7 drafts away. How many drafts away is 2031 considering the trade cabt be done until after July 1st.
24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30… is 7 drafts. How much were you willing to wager again?


Anything you'd be willing to wager.. because as of July 1st, that 24 you referenced becomes the current season, and its 7 years from the season, not 7 drafts.

So how much? That name of yours hasnt changed in a while.. OubreFan4Life is unclaimed..
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Post#125 » by and1GS » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:14 pm

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and1GS wrote:The warriors don't score in isolation so that shouldn't really be an issue. When we need to do it come playoff time, that's Steph's job.


Our best teams had a guy who scored in isolation all the time.


Yeah having KD was pretty sweet. I'm not sure how that's super relevant here though.
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Post#126 » by Dom801e » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:14 pm

Will be hard to root for Paul. But this is an absolute great trade.

GS needed another ball handler with high BBIQ, another wing defender, more big man depth, and financial flexibility.

This move addresses two of those. I expect they pick an older player in the draft that can be in rotation immediately as a 9/10th man type. or trade the pick for a vet to fill an another need.

There is also a chance they move Kuminga and Dray sign for a salary starting low enough to get them comfortably under 2nd Apron. This would allow them to use TMLE to address one of the other needs.
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Post#127 » by wco81 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:16 pm

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Commodor wrote:Love this. 2nd unit should go from a huge negative to one of the best in the league. Our starters were already top 5.

Plus cp and curry can provide significant rest for each other. Curry can take nights off without the wheels coming off. Huge positive for keeping our guys ready for P.O.

Next will see if we move JK or 19 for some size help.

Personally I vote take the most ready big man at 19 and scour the vet min market.

Great deal.

Caveat: cp3 + JK for Paul George?


Amazing caveat but not likely since Clippers would be in full rebuild mode. UNLESS they want to dump PG's salary. PG on the Warriors....please.


They're about to open a new stadium so I don't think they will go rebuild.

However, PG13 and KL are both eligible for 4-year max extensions this summer and fall.

Ballmer has tons of money and he wants that new stadium to be a success. So if he's seen as giving up on the KL/PG13 era, the stadium may be perceived as a failure. Ballmer has only experienced failure, he needs wins as Clippers owner.

He rode the tailcoat of others to over $100 billion. MS became way more valuable AFTER he was ousted and his shares became valuable as a result.


So you'd think he'd just give them both extensions.

But the KL/PG13 experiment has not worked out at all, both too injured and the big upset in the Bubble.

Clippers could use a PG and they were said to be very interested in scooping up Paul if he was bought out. They were willing to trade pieces like Morris and Covington but probably not PG13.

Unless Ballmer decides he can't give them both 4-year max extensions despite having more than enough money.
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Post#128 » by and1GS » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:16 pm

Scotty2Hotty wrote:
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Draymond and Durant couldn’t co-exist on this team anymore either.

Nahhhhh…I don’t see a pattern.


TBF we did win a title before and after KD with Draymond. He's a difficult personality, but it's also difficult to be a contender for a decade + being difficult sometimes helps with that. Both can be true. And how much success has KD had since he left this difficult personality?


You can be a difficult personality to play with and not humiliate and punch your teammates. Reference Michael Jordan.


lmaooooooooo





MJ was a massive ****, what are you talking about?
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Post#129 » by Impuniti » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:21 pm

I don't know how to feel about this, but I'll let it settle in a bit more. I would have imagined to get more from JP than dino-CP3.
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Post#130 » by GunnerWRX » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:21 pm

The vets can now blame Kuminga and Moody when they can't win.
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Post#131 » by GunnerWRX » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:25 pm

CP3 is 39 and will be waived by Washington. Instead, we attached a first round pick and traded Poole for CP3. Just feel we can do better even if they want to unload Poole, while CP3 will look like 22-23 Iguodala.
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Post#132 » by Coxy » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:27 pm

Impuniti wrote:I don't know how to feel about this, but I'll let it settle in a bit more. I would have imagined to get more from JP than dino-CP3.


Poole barely got dinosaur CP3, to the tune of Rollins and picks being added.

Poole was a cesspool, we’re lucky to be rid of him at any cost.
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Post#133 » by and1GS » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:30 pm

I think Poole could figure it out in a year or so. But right now he's a losing piece on a team that wants to win. We're on a 3 year timeline. I'm glad we accepted that instead of hoping against hope, then watching Kerr bench everyone under 25 in a second round playoff series.
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Post#134 » by CS707 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:38 pm

If CP3 can't boost Kuminga's value, it's not happening. That second unit should be dunks for days.
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Post#135 » by killmongrel » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:39 pm

CP3+Kuminga+Moody+19+future 1st for PG?
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Post#136 » by azwfan » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:42 pm

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Nope, it cannot unfortunately. 1 2nd maybe, but would Wiz really go for that? I'd wager its closer to the Grizzlies '24 deal

We cant trade a 1st more than 7 drafts away. How many drafts away is 2031 considering the trade cabt be done until after July 1st.
24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30… is 7 drafts. How much were you willing to wager again?


Anything you'd be willing to wager.. because as of July 1st, that 24 you referenced becomes the current season, and its 7 years from the season, not 7 drafts.

So how much? That name of yours hasnt changed in a while.. OubreFan4Life is unclaimed..

Not sure why you would attribute changing names or Oubre to me. I havent changed my name on here since i moved to AZ bout 20 yrs ago. Not surprising it strikes a nerve with you when someone doesnt agree with your reasoning.
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Post#137 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:43 pm

killmongrel wrote:CP3+Kuminga+Moody+19+future 1st for PG?


It would have to be part of this deal, and that would mean it would also hold up the Beal deal.. but it sounds like the W's specifically targeted CP3. And also the W's would have to draft for the Clippers in that case

A lot would need to happen in 2 hours

That said, take out the 19/CP3 and Klay could fit into that salary slot without issue. But I certainly wouldn't do it
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Post#138 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:43 pm

azwfan wrote:
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azwfan wrote:We cant trade a 1st more than 7 drafts away. How many drafts away is 2031 considering the trade cabt be done until after July 1st.
24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30… is 7 drafts. How much were you willing to wager again?


Anything you'd be willing to wager.. because as of July 1st, that 24 you referenced becomes the current season, and its 7 years from the season, not 7 drafts.

So how much? That name of yours hasnt changed in a while.. OubreFan4Life is unclaimed..

Not sure why you would attribute changing names or Oubre to me. I havent changed my name on here since i moved to AZ bout 20 yrs ago. Not surprising it strikes a nerve with you when someone doesnt agree with your reasoning.


lol I suggested an undesireable name jokingly, not because of an opinion, but because of a fact. You tried to be smug and you were wrong, now bask in it
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Post#139 » by Scotty2Hotty » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:45 pm

whatisacenter wrote:What an embarrassing trade .


It’s beyond embarrassing. Traded for a 38-year old washed-up, bring your offense to a molasses crawl, attitude-ridden flopfest.
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Post#140 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:49 pm

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Oh, and keep that JRich jersey. Those were flawed teams but JRich was so lovable.


I really did like him but its unfortunately cursed.. the Vonteego jersey though? Our first title and last title :nod:

JRich is how I started really learning about basketball too courtesy of LF/LD

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