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Should the Warriors make a trade?

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Should the Warriors make a trade?

Poll ended at Mon Dec 2, 2024 11:11 pm

Yes - a major shakeup (Let's be real, Steph and Dray are untouchable, so) let's define this as a trade involving one or more of the 2nd tier guys, players like Wiggins, Kuminga, Podz, and/or a first round pick or picks.
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46%
Yes - a minor move/moves. Something like De'Anthony Melton's expiring contract and a minor piece or pieces?
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No - this team is very good. Stay pat. Don't want to risk a good thing.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#121 » by superunknown » Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:56 am

vagelis wrote:Warriors have to stop this madness and trade for a big.

There are so many guards on the roster without a reason.
And the worse is that they all have playing time.

Curry and Schroder have to split minutes.
Podziemski has to be out of the rotation.

Wiggins has to play sg and play Kuminga at the sf position or trade for a sf.
Wiggins has to get the ball more. Warriors have to realize that he has to get the ball more and not to insert more pgs in the lineup in order to take the ball away from him.

Curry and the team have to realize that he is declining.

Curry/Schroeder
Wiggins/Hield
Kuminga/Moody
Green/Kuminga
Starting Big/Looney


agree on most of it but not on Jk at the 3. he's too inconsistent as a shooter - not just 3 points, as a shooter in general - to play that position in today's game.
these are not the 90' anymore when you could play the anthony mason of this world as SF.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#122 » by vagelis » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:02 am

superunknown wrote:
vagelis wrote:Warriors have to stop this madness and trade for a big.

There are so many guards on the roster without a reason.
And the worse is that they all have playing time.

Curry and Schroder have to split minutes.
Podziemski has to be out of the rotation.

Wiggins has to play sg and play Kuminga at the sf position or trade for a sf.
Wiggins has to get the ball more. Warriors have to realize that he has to get the ball more and not to insert more pgs in the lineup in order to take the ball away from him.

Curry and the team have to realize that he is declining.

Curry/Schroeder
Wiggins/Hield
Kuminga/Moody
Green/Kuminga
Starting Big/Looney


agree on most of it but not on Jk at the 3. he's too inconsistent as a shooter - not just 3 points, as a shooter in general - to play that position in today's game.
these are not the 90' anymore when you could play the anthony mason of this world as SF.


Then Warriors have to trade for a sf, if Kuminga cannot play the position.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#123 » by superunknown » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:07 am

vagelis wrote:
superunknown wrote:
vagelis wrote:Warriors have to stop this madness and trade for a big.

There are so many guards on the roster without a reason.
And the worse is that they all have playing time.

Curry and Schroder have to split minutes.
Podziemski has to be out of the rotation.

Wiggins has to play sg and play Kuminga at the sf position or trade for a sf.
Wiggins has to get the ball more. Warriors have to realize that he has to get the ball more and not to insert more pgs in the lineup in order to take the ball away from him.

Curry and the team have to realize that he is declining.

Curry/Schroeder
Wiggins/Hield
Kuminga/Moody
Green/Kuminga
Starting Big/Looney


agree on most of it but not on Jk at the 3. he's too inconsistent as a shooter - not just 3 points, as a shooter in general - to play that position in today's game.
these are not the 90' anymore when you could play the anthony mason of this world as SF.


Then Warriors have to trade for a sf, if Kuminga cannot play the position.


he cannot play the position to certain standard. they need to trade him.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#124 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:09 am

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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#125 » by NW » Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:44 am

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The Jimmy experience in Miami with him out was a loss to an Orlando team without Paolo, Suggs or the Wagner bros after being up 20.

Warriors have to be in a group with the Heat, Kings, Wolves and Nuggets where staying pat is not an option.

Will be interesting to see what moves get made among that group of teams.

Didn't the FO have interest in DeRozan at one point? Definitely helps the offense problem and doesn't cost as much as guys like Butler and LaVine
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#126 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:45 am

vagelis wrote:Then Warriors have to trade for a sf, if Kuminga cannot play the position.


If there is a move to make, I'd agree that it should be a SF heavy wing player. But would also depend on who's going out - if its JK, then it should be a PF-heavy forward. There's just not much ballast for a trade
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#127 » by jozef » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:35 pm

Trade ID #8820960
GSW: trade Schroeder, Anderson, Podziemski, Waters, Santos and 1st round pick for Vucevic and DiVincenzo
CHI: trade Vucevic and Hornton-Tucker for Schroeder, Anderson and 1sr round pick
MIN: trade DiVincenzo for Horton-Tucker, Podziemski, Waters and Santos.
I hate to see Waters go so if there would be an option to replace him in the trade with Spencer, Post... it would be great to keep him.

PG Cury, DiVincenzo, Spencer
SG Hield, DiVincenzo, Moody (Waters)
SF Wiggins, Payton, Moody, Kuminga
PF Green, Kuminga
C Vucevic, Jackson-Davis, Looney
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#128 » by xdrta+ » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:33 pm

jozef wrote:Trade ID #8820960
GSW: trade Schroeder, Anderson, Podziemski, Waters, Santos and 1st round pick for Vucevic and DiVincenzo


You're not taking the Warriors hard cap into account, which is now $330K. Here, the Warriors are taking back $2M more than they send out, plus they have to replace 3 players.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#129 » by NW » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:42 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
jozef wrote:Trade ID #8820960
GSW: trade Schroeder, Anderson, Podziemski, Waters, Santos and 1st round pick for Vucevic and DiVincenzo


You're not taking the Warriors hard cap into account, which is now $330K. Here, the Warriors are taking back $2M more than they send out, plus they have to replace 3 players.


That’s the tricky part. Basically, to get a key player in the $20 mil range like Cam Johnson, Vuc or DeMarr DeRozen, you got to do a 3 for 1 (assuming Steph/Dray/Wiggins/Schroder not included). To get back to 14 and stay under the apron, you need to do a reverse 3 for 1 with an 8 mil deal like Loon’s for 3 guys making 2-3 mil.

I put this one on the trade board.

Basing this on:

Kings long time interest in Kuzma and the DeRozan deal not working out.
Warriors interest in DeRozan over the years
Nets rumored interest in Kuminga.

GS trades: Kuminga, GP2, Kyle Anderson and Kevon Looney
Receives: DeMarr DeRozen, Trendan Watford, Shake Milton and Keon Johnson

Hate to give up both SloMo and Looney, but due to being hard capped at the apron, only way for GS to add a key piece in the $20 mil range, without including Steph/Dray/Wiggins/Schroder, is a 3 for 1 deal-and the only way to get the roster to 14 is to do a reverse 3 for 1 with Loon’s 8 mil and assorted 2-3 mil contracts.
GS has an offense problem, especially down the stretch of games. DeRozan solves that giving GS the reigning clutch award winner and the runner up.

Nets trade: Watford, Milton, Johnson, 2nd round picks to be negotiated
Receive: Jonathan Kuminga

Nets rumored to have interest in Kuminga get to test him out and control his restricted rights for a low cost.

Kings trade: DeMarr DeRozen
Receive: Kyle Kuzma

Kings deal a guy who hasn’t been a great fit for one they hope that will be.

Wizards trade: Kyle Kuzma
Receive: GP2, SloMo, Looney, 2nd round pick draft capital to be negotiated

Wiz get cap relief in GP2 and Loon’s expirings (plus Poole’s good friend and mentor in Loon) and 2nd round pick(s) for Kuzma as the rebuild continues.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#130 » by cladden » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:32 am

superunknown wrote:
TB wrote:
TB wrote:I'd be keeping an eye on NAW with Minny:

1) they will have a very hard time keeping him since they don't have full bird rights (sort of like the Donte situation with us)
2) they are an apron team so taking back something less than his small contract that's worthwhile is tricky

They also are playing Rudy and Randle a ton with only Naz as a backup big....

TJD and Lindy for NAW is a rare trade that works contract wise for teams dealing with hard cap and the apron.


Lets get wild with defense and expand this with a Pelicans trade:

Kuminga/GP2/picks for Herb Jones/Matkovic

Steph / Schroder / Spencer
NAW / Podz
Herb / Buddy / Moody
Wiggins / Kyle / Santos
Dray / Loon / Matkovic


not bad idea, but I'd prefer trey murphy over herb jones in a trade with the pels.


I don't think they're trading either one.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#131 » by cladden » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:32 am

superunknown wrote:
TB wrote:
TB wrote:I'd be keeping an eye on NAW with Minny:

1) they will have a very hard time keeping him since they don't have full bird rights (sort of like the Donte situation with us)
2) they are an apron team so taking back something less than his small contract that's worthwhile is tricky

They also are playing Rudy and Randle a ton with only Naz as a backup big....

TJD and Lindy for NAW is a rare trade that works contract wise for teams dealing with hard cap and the apron.


Lets get wild with defense and expand this with a Pelicans trade:

Kuminga/GP2/picks for Herb Jones/Matkovic

Steph / Schroder / Spencer
NAW / Podz
Herb / Buddy / Moody
Wiggins / Kyle / Santos
Dray / Loon / Matkovic


not bad idea, but I'd prefer trey murphy over herb jones in a trade with the pels.


I don't think they're trading either one.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#132 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:23 am

Caruso extends for 4/81.

I think this helps the trade value of both gp2 (9M) and wiggins (26M).
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#133 » by whatisacenter » Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:42 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Caruso extends for 4/81.

I think this helps the trade value of both gp2 (9M) and wiggins (26M).


Hard to find any value in trading Wiggins.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#134 » by Hoopstar23 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:03 am

can we go after De'Aaron Fox?
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#135 » by Jester_ » Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:01 pm

hearing way too many rumbles of going after Vucevic

he would be such a classic desperation Lacob move. plz no.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#136 » by wco81 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:07 pm

When was the last time the Warriors traded away a FRP?

Maybe when they were trying to salvage the situation as KD left the team and they made some transactions?

Have they ever thrown in multiple FRPs in a trade? Not that that has ever worked for any team. Wolves got to the WCF trading away FRPs for Rudi but now they had to make another big trade away and are not going anywhere this season.

Cavs gave up a lot of FRPs for Mitchell and may get fairly far this season but remains to be seen.

Same thing for the Knicks, they gave up a lot to acquire OG and Mikal Bridgets, remains to be seen where they go.

Celtics robbed the Nets and then the 76ers the year they got Tatum. But they've traded away FRPs for Derek White and Porzingis? Also for Jrue?

I guess the Bucks gave away a couple of FRPs for Jrue and it got them a title but now have traded some FRPs for Dame and it remains to be seen where they go.

Mavs gave up what for PJ Washington and Gafford? An FRP for each?

Suns gave up their FRPs and their wings for KD. Doesn't look to be going anywhere this season.

Nuggets gave up an FRP for Gordon, helped win a title.

Maybe the last good trade the Warriors made was for Iggy?
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#137 » by whatisacenter » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:34 pm

wco81 wrote:When was the last time the Warriors traded away a FRP?

Maybe when they were trying to salvage the situation as KD left the team and they made some transactions?

Have they ever thrown in multiple FRPs in a trade? Not that that has ever worked for any team. Wolves got to the WCF trading away FRPs for Rudi but now they had to make another big trade away and are not going anywhere this season.

Cavs gave up a lot of FRPs for Mitchell and may get fairly far this season but remains to be seen.

Same thing for the Knicks, they gave up a lot to acquire OG and Mikal Bridgets, remains to be seen where they go.

Celtics robbed the Nets and then the 76ers the year they got Tatum. But they've traded away FRPs for Derek White and Porzingis? Also for Jrue?

I guess the Bucks gave away a couple of FRPs for Jrue and it got them a title but now have traded some FRPs for Dame and it remains to be seen where they go.

Mavs gave up what for PJ Washington and Gafford? An FRP for each?

Suns gave up their FRPs and their wings for KD. Doesn't look to be going anywhere this season.

Nuggets gave up an FRP for Gordon, helped win a title.

Maybe the last good trade the Warriors made was for Iggy?


Getting Wiggins and a pick (Jk) for dLo was a steal and led to the 2022 title.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#138 » by wco81 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:16 pm

I'm not talking about acquiring FRPs, I'm referring to the last time they sent out FRPs or multiple FRPs in the same trade, which would only be justified for an all-star at least.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#139 » by bay2hk » Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:52 pm

jozef wrote:Trade ID #8820960
GSW: trade Schroeder, Anderson, Podziemski, Waters, Santos and 1st round pick for Vucevic and DiVincenzo
CHI: trade Vucevic and Hornton-Tucker for Schroeder, Anderson and 1sr round pick
MIN: trade DiVincenzo for Horton-Tucker, Podziemski, Waters and Santos.
I hate to see Waters go so if there would be an option to replace him in the trade with Spencer, Post... it would be great to keep him.

PG Cury, DiVincenzo, Spencer
SG Hield, DiVincenzo, Moody (Waters)
SF Wiggins, Payton, Moody, Kuminga
PF Green, Kuminga
C Vucevic, Jackson-Davis, Looney


This is too complicated. We should just do protected FRP, Schroeder and GP2 for Vucevic and THT.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#140 » by jozef » Tue Dec 24, 2024 8:25 pm

bay2hk wrote:
jozef wrote:Trade ID #8820960
GSW: trade Schroeder, Anderson, Podziemski, Waters, Santos and 1st round pick for Vucevic and DiVincenzo
CHI: trade Vucevic and Hornton-Tucker for Schroeder, Anderson and 1sr round pick
MIN: trade DiVincenzo for Horton-Tucker, Podziemski, Waters and Santos.
I hate to see Waters go so if there would be an option to replace him in the trade with Spencer, Post... it would be great to keep him.

PG Cury, DiVincenzo, Spencer
SG Hield, DiVincenzo, Moody (Waters)
SF Wiggins, Payton, Moody, Kuminga
PF Green, Kuminga
C Vucevic, Jackson-Davis, Looney


This is too complicated. We should just do protected FRP, Schroeder and GP2 for Vucevic and THT.

GP2 is very valuable for Boston matchups. FRP, Schroeder and Anderson for Vucevic would be OK
I should be on Lacob payroll...

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