Game 35: Kings (16-19) @ Warriors (18-16) 5:30pm

[Mambomuziki]

I just can't believe they played TJD against Sabonis knowing very well that's a Looney Match up.

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[CDM_Stats]

So it got uglier? Crazy

Weirdest thing this year.. heard they wanted Schroder badly, as early as late Nov. Expected price to be high for an expiring.. Same person went on about backup unit strength and moving Podz to SG. When the trade was announced 12/14, thought everything and everyone was on the same page. Its really not worked out that way. Schroder starts on day 1 and goes from running a system that works for him, and on paper works for several other Warriors (Waters, Moody, SloMo, TJD, JK, Hield) to dropping him into a system that requires not only knowing the motion offense, but specifically the Warriors motion offense. Meaning to know exactly what Curry is doing or is going to do and reacting off of that

No trade will fix it, because the Warriors strength was being greater than the sum of their parts. In addition to the top 3 of Curry/Dray/Wiggins, guys like Looney, GP2 and Podz are built that way - versatile, do the dirty work, etc - are the ones who best fit that mold now. The others just dont fit that well.. the expectation can no longer be that the reserves do the same thing as the starters, at least offensively

Back to saying the same things from week 2 of the year - start Hield/Looney, bench (guard who shouldnt start) & TJD. I mean at this stage, what is the risk there? Especially now that JK is hurt

Before we go back to what worked in the past, I'm expecting the worst. Mjd giving up draft capital for vuc just so kerr can throw out vuc and 3 guards.

I'd be very surprised if a deal was made tbh, I have not hated MDJ's moves at all. I didnt love holding JK back in a PG13 deal, but considering that they also wanted to add Lauri and there's no way they could get him w/o JK, I at least get it. The rest of the moves he's made have been sensible targets that made sense considering his limited assets

Plus guys like MDJ tend to make the best GMs.. family background, smart player, just didnt have the talent. Those types tend to make the best coaches and evaluators as they had to fight uphill when playing

At this point I'd guess there's a little disconnect going on with the team. The moves make a lot of sense if certain things happen, but despite trying numerous things all year, those specific things just arent happening. It's oddly pinpoint

[Big J]

Dennis was promised a starting spot when we traded for him. His agent would be pissed if he goes to the bench during a contract year.

[ILOVEIT]

I went to see Kings against Mavs and they looked like crap. And THAT team beat the Warriors by 30!?
Just wide open three after three....and more of Curry sagging in and letting baseline 3s open with the fake close out.

And next time Kerr rolls out the three guard lineup he needs to be tossed.

[RUN-TJM]

Maybe Kerr will break a clipboard next game….. maybe two!!

[whatisacenter]

This roster is so meh.

Slomo gives the team next to nothing.

Buddy can't buy a bucket.

Schroder is showing why he is playing on his 10th team.

TJD had a few good games for a stretch but then has a game like tonight where he just looks outmatched.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I think we should give post a shot.

[WarriorGM]

Dennis was promised a starting spot when we traded for him. His agent would be pissed if he goes to the bench during a contract year.

If it is that important then maybe Curry should come off the bench.

Hield, Anderson, and Schroder qualifiying as "unplayable" according to my rule of thumb that plus minus should not exceed negative one per minute played. The Steph and Hield lineups were terrible too calling into question how effective that pairing really is. A bad result that is even worse for how it muddles the best way forward. Looks like we are well into the Buddy Hield cycle.

[Big J]

Dennis was promised a starting spot when we traded for him. His agent would be pissed if he goes to the bench during a contract year.

If it is that important then maybe Curry should come off the bench.

Hield, Anderson, and Schroder qualifiying as "unplayable" according to my rule of thumb that plus minus should not exceed negative one per minute played. The Steph and Hield lineups were terrible too calling into question how effective that pairing really is. A bad result that is even worse for how it muddles the best way forward.

We’re stuck starting Schroeder until we can trade him. Curry ain’t coming off the bench either.

[WarriorGM]

Dennis was promised a starting spot when we traded for him. His agent would be pissed if he goes to the bench during a contract year.

If it is that important then maybe Curry should come off the bench.

Hield, Anderson, and Schroder qualifiying as "unplayable" according to my rule of thumb that plus minus should not exceed negative one per minute played. The Steph and Hield lineups were terrible too calling into question how effective that pairing really is. A bad result that is even worse for how it muddles the best way forward.

We’re stuck starting Schroeder until we can trade him. Curry ain’t coming off the bench either.

I'm trying to find ways to look at what happened to lower the concern. There is a chance that most of the bad result emanated from Buddy and Anderson in this game. Take their minutes out and the Curry lineups with Schroder had one bad -6 stint to start the game which may have been just variance since they improved on it in their next stint together without Hield. At least we can cross our fingers and hope so.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Read on Twitter

I found this hilarious and sad at the same time.

We only have 7 players that shoot at least 60% within 5 ft with only gp2 above 70%. Jk, wiggs, tjd, and steph have our highest volume.

Gp2
Moody
Kuminga
Waters
Slomo
Wiggins
Loon

Steph is at 53% and Schroeder at 43%

We only have 4 players shooting 80% + on fts with only wiggs and steph at decent volume.

Steph
Buddy
Waters
Wiggins

Jk is at 64% on highest volume with loon at 43%. The bulk of our team are in the 60's. Just disgusting.

I bet these 2 stats alone swings our record by a few games. We are atrocious. I'm not sure turnovers are even this damaging.

[vagelis]

Warriors do not seem to have chemistry.

Curry and Green seem to be disconnected with the rest of the team.
They were a trio with Thompson and the rest had to follow this trio.
Now they are 2 and they are not at their peaks.

Curry remains very very good as a scorer.
He regressed a litle bit but he remains at a top level.

He always though commit turnovers as a pg and he continues to do this.

The same happens with Green with the turnovers.


Warriors without Curry are 5-2.
That means that Curry has to think what he is doing wrong.And Kerr has to think the same.
Curry is the best player of the team and Warriors should be a lot better with him than without him.

Maybe something is wrong with the roles and the chemistry

[Onus]

Read on Twitter

I found this hilarious and sad at the same time.

We only have 7 players that shoot at least 60% within 5 ft with only gp2 above 70%. Jk, wiggs, tjd, and steph have our highest volume.

Gp2
Moody
Kuminga
Waters
Slomo
Wiggins
Loon

Steph is at 53% and Schroeder at 43%

We only have 4 players shooting 80% + on fts with only wiggs and steph at decent volume.

Steph
Buddy
Waters
Wiggins

Jk is at 64% on highest volume with loon at 43%. The bulk of our team are in the 60's. Just disgusting.

I bet these 2 stats alone swings our record by a few games. We are atrocious. I'm not sure turnovers are even this damaging.

Yea it's pretty pathetic. The 2 easiest shots in the sport and we're g league level at them.

The finishing can be traced back to not having a stretch big. It's really hard to finish over 2-4 people when they're just sitting back there waiting for you and ready to collapse.

We just have terrible shooters and those 4 + Moody are really our only shooters. 5 out of 14 players can shoot has to be some of the worst shooting in the league number of players wise. Plus Steph never gets foul calls.

[superunknown]

those numbers there are disgusting.
but hey, we have a better record vs playoffs team without steph, so evidently it's on him.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Read on Twitter

I found this hilarious and sad at the same time.

We only have 7 players that shoot at least 60% within 5 ft with only gp2 above 70%. Jk, wiggs, tjd, and steph have our highest volume.

Gp2
Moody
Kuminga
Waters
Slomo
Wiggins
Loon

Steph is at 53% and Schroeder at 43%

We only have 4 players shooting 80% + on fts with only wiggs and steph at decent volume.

Steph
Buddy
Waters
Wiggins

Jk is at 64% on highest volume with loon at 43%. The bulk of our team are in the 60's. Just disgusting.

I bet these 2 stats alone swings our record by a few games. We are atrocious. I'm not sure turnovers are even this damaging.

Yea it's pretty pathetic. The 2 easiest shots in the sport and we're g league level at them.

The finishing can be traced back to not having a stretch big. It's really hard to finish over 2-4 people when they're just sitting back there waiting for you and ready to collapse.

We just have terrible shooters and those 4 + Moody are really our only shooters. 5 out of 14 players can shoot has to be some of the worst shooting in the league number of players wise. Plus Steph never gets foul calls.

Weirdly enough, I think the kings style of play is what Kerr envisions and kinda what we had with Melton.

Play a 4 out offense and play with pace with jk being in that demar role as the guy you just dump it to create offense as a change of pace.

The kings don't have better shooters than we do, but they do turn the ball over less (5th best) , make shots within 5 ft (best in the league), and make fts (3rd best in the league). Crazy how a little tweak from Christie has turned them around even without fox. Shooters get into rhythm which is something we don't routinely do anymore.

[Onus]

Read on Twitter

I found this hilarious and sad at the same time.

We only have 7 players that shoot at least 60% within 5 ft with only gp2 above 70%. Jk, wiggs, tjd, and steph have our highest volume.

Gp2
Moody
Kuminga
Waters
Slomo
Wiggins
Loon

Steph is at 53% and Schroeder at 43%

We only have 4 players shooting 80% + on fts with only wiggs and steph at decent volume.

Steph
Buddy
Waters
Wiggins

Jk is at 64% on highest volume with loon at 43%. The bulk of our team are in the 60's. Just disgusting.

I bet these 2 stats alone swings our record by a few games. We are atrocious. I'm not sure turnovers are even this damaging.

Yea it's pretty pathetic. The 2 easiest shots in the sport and we're g league level at them.

The finishing can be traced back to not having a stretch big. It's really hard to finish over 2-4 people when they're just sitting back there waiting for you and ready to collapse.

We just have terrible shooters and those 4 + Moody are really our only shooters. 5 out of 14 players can shoot has to be some of the worst shooting in the league number of players wise. Plus Steph never gets foul calls.

Weirdly enough, I think the kings style of play is what Kerr envisions and kinda what we had with Melton.

Play a 4 out offense and play with pace with jk being in that demar role as the guy you just dump it to create offense as a change of pace.

The kings don't have better shooters than we do, but they do turn the ball over less (5th best) , make shots within 5 ft (best in the league), and make fts (3rd best in the league). Crazy how a little tweak from Christie has turned them around even without fox. Shooters get into rhythm which is something we don't routinely do anymore.

I mean we looked terrible last night but 3 games in 4 nights is tough. We just couldn't get any stops. If we're not going to overreact to our last 2 wins because the opposing team was on back to backs then we can't look too much into this loss as well. Our schedule lightens up for the rest of the season so we should be an above 500 team the rest of the way. But there isn't really anyone out there that's going to change the season, outside of zion (huge risk) or cam (nets want way too much).

So we just have to hope Kerr finds the right lineups. Feels like he's close since he's bringing in Buddy to play with Steph for like 2 min of every quarter or at least every half. We just have to hope that lineup breaks out and we get to see them play for more than 2 min every half.

[Onus]

https://youtu.be/LB4h8PUAqwE?si=GXt_oj8zOwHdMiEJ&t=403

To put in perspective how bad our finishing at the rim is. We're worst than 2004 league avg, which was probably the worst of the last 30 years. It probably has nothing to do with having 2 bigs that can't shoot like we're in prime 2000s, while every other team has the ability to put out 4 and 5 out basketball. /s

[CDM_Stats]

If it is that important then maybe Curry should come off the bench.

Hield, Anderson, and Schroder qualifiying as "unplayable" according to my rule of thumb that plus minus should not exceed negative one per minute played. The Steph and Hield lineups were terrible too calling into question how effective that pairing really is. A bad result that is even worse for how it muddles the best way forward. Looks like we are well into the Buddy Hield cycle.

Really don’t think one game and roughly 15 possessions should override the data, over 220 possessions, that says they should play together

It’s not like Curry/Hield makes the team unstoppable. It’s just very clearly the best way to get them both open shots. It’s given Wiggins and JK (as long as it’s one, not both) way clearer paths to the rim. And it’s provided some of our best contested shot %s on defense

Hield is absolutely a limited player. So are GP2 and Looney.. but because of who Steph is (and to a degree, Dray), they can be extremely impactful on this team

[WarriorGM]

If it is that important then maybe Curry should come off the bench.

Hield, Anderson, and Schroder qualifiying as "unplayable" according to my rule of thumb that plus minus should not exceed negative one per minute played. The Steph and Hield lineups were terrible too calling into question how effective that pairing really is. A bad result that is even worse for how it muddles the best way forward. Looks like we are well into the Buddy Hield cycle.

Really don’t think one game and roughly 15 possessions should override the data, over 220 possessions, that says they should play together

It’s not like Curry/Hield makes the team unstoppable. It’s just very clearly the best way to get them both open shots. It’s given Wiggins and JK (as long as it’s one, not both) way clearer paths to the rim. And it’s provided some of our best contested shot %s on defense

Hield is absolutely a limited player. So are GP2 and Looney.. but because of who Steph is (and to a degree, Dray), they can be extremely impactful on this team

True and I'm not saying we should give up on this pairing already but we also have to acknowledge the data is starting to trend the other way and that Hield has a reputation of looking fantastic early in the season and much less than that as the season wears on. Being paired with Steph doesn't seem to be canceling that out.

Solving the Buddy Hield mystery might be one of the most important things the team can do for this season. First a proper diagnosis is in order. Is he really worse or has he been put in worse situations? If the former—someone here for example thought Hield's footwork going into a shot was bad—an unconventional intervention like taking him out for two weeks and instructing him to treat it like the off season to shake off bad habits he's developed might be called for. If the latter, put him in better situations.

[DonaldSanders]

Solving the Buddy Hield mystery might be one of the most important things the team can do for this season. First a proper diagnosis is in order. Is he really worse or has he been put in worse situations? If the former—someone here for example thought Hield's footwork going into a shot was bad—an unconventional intervention like taking him out for two weeks and instructing him to treat it like the off season to shake off bad habits he's developed might be called for. If the latter, put him in better situations.

There is no mystery, this is who Buddy is and why I didn't want him in the off-season. I kept an open mind and got overly excited like everyone else by his hot shooting at the start of the year, but this is exactly the Buddy Hield cycle multiple fan bases warned us about.

Off the hot start I knew he'd cool down but I didn't expect him to look like a baby deer out there for full games. If Buddy is your starting 2 guard, you aren't going anywhere. I'm sure he will catch fire again, but inconsistency has been his calling card. He is a career 57.1 TS% player shooting 57.8 TS% this year.