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2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1221 » by KevinMcreynolds » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:12 am

TB wrote:I have more confidence in Edwards being an elite NBA 3 point shooter than a lot of players that shot closer to 40% from 3 in college.

Lets take Vassell as an example. He's been over 40% both years, but he's almost always taking set shots with time, and his form doesn't look like it will easily expand to the nba 3 point line.

I'm not saying Vassell won't be a respectable 3 point shooter in the NBA eventually, I just think Edwards is a better shooter, even if his stats don't show it.

If the Warriors staff could get Edwards to play the way he's capable of, he's the no brainer pick. But he's a bit like JR Smith in that he has every imaginable tool and yet can't seem to do the right thing on the court the majority of the time.


yep, Edwards gave zero effs and did a lot of chuckin last year. It definitely reflected in his 3P%. His shot looks pretty decent to me.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1222 » by The-Power » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:19 am

Onus wrote:Anyone watch LSU’s Emmitt Williams? Is he a good defender?

Energetic but undersized. He can make good defensive plays but I'm not sure how consistently he can do it in the NBA with his limitations.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1223 » by Onus » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:20 pm

The-Power wrote:
Onus wrote:Anyone watch LSU’s Emmitt Williams? Is he a good defender?

Energetic but undersized. He can make good defensive plays but I'm not sure how consistently he can do it in the NBA with his limitations.

I kind of see him as Kenneth Faried less rebounding but better defense.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1224 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:43 pm

DevinVassell wrote:

3 words
8 syllables
1 warrior
hopefully....

I don't care if he is a pf.. I want, Xavier Tillman Sr.


I do too. But don't know how he fits.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1225 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:45 pm

Coxy wrote:
DevinVassell wrote:

3 words
8 syllables
1 warrior
hopefully....

I don't care if he is a pf.. I want, Xavier Tillman Sr.


I just, I just can't let that past. That's 7 syllables dude.

There is no way I could have slept tonight without pointing that out like a douche poon.


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1226 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:46 pm

Coxy wrote:
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Coxy wrote:
I just, I just can't let that past. That's 7 syllables dude.

There is no way I could have slept tonight without pointing that out like a douche poon.


Depends how you pronounce his name. Thought syllables were decided by sound, not spelling.

...but I could be wrong.



Xa-Vi-Er Till-Man Ju-Nior

Unless I've lost my academic mind, that is 7 syllables.

And all of a sudden, I'm that guy in the internet. Kindly tell me to go fkcuk myself if you like, totally acceptable.


I've heard it said "Zav-yer" like it was 2.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1227 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:48 pm

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You saw the collar and the cuffs?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1228 » by Mylie10 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:28 pm

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1229 » by ShayDee » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:01 pm



The whole draft saga has gone full circle. I am still a believer end of the day he will be the best player in the whole draft, at least for the first 2-3 years
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1230 » by Mylie10 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:07 pm

ShayDee wrote:


The whole draft saga has gone full circle. I am still a believer end of the day he will be the best player in the whole draft, at least for the first 2-3 years


I never waivered. My pick has been the same since September 2019
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1231 » by HiRez » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:49 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
ShayDee wrote:


The whole draft saga has gone full circle. I am still a believer end of the day he will be the best player in the whole draft, at least for the first 2-3 years


I never waivered. My pick has been the same since September 2019

Yeah, while I have a few concerns about Wiseman, I started with him at the top of my board and at the end of the day he's still probably going to be my pick at #2, I don't see that changing by draft day. He does fill the most needs for us and could probably start for us immediately (in limited minutes) without knocking any of our key players out of the lineup or getting buried behind them...plenty of minutes available if he wants and earns them.

Now who to pick if Wiseman goes #1 and no trades are available is a lot tougher question, there's quite a few potential guys to pick there, although I suspect it's one of Edwards, Avdija, or Ball for the Warriors (Ball/Edwards maybe as future trade bait, Avdija to keep). I like a lot of guys like Haliburton, Okoro, Vassell, and Okongwu, but I don't see the Dubs picking them at #2.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1232 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:01 pm

Warriors need size and it so happens that Wiseman has a high ceiling, though there are questions about his motor and heart.

Athleticism of Edwards is enticing but unless they move Wiggins, he wouldn't help as much, unless he turns out to be the second coming of Harden who also defends at a high level.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1233 » by jason bourne » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:33 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
TB wrote:I have more confidence in Edwards being an elite NBA 3 point shooter than a lot of players that shot closer to 40% from 3 in college.

Lets take Vassell as an example. He's been over 40% both years, but he's almost always taking set shots with time, and his form doesn't look like it will easily expand to the nba 3 point line.

I'm not saying Vassell won't be a respectable 3 point shooter in the NBA eventually, I just think Edwards is a better shooter, even if his stats don't show it.

If the Warriors staff could get Edwards to play the way he's capable of, he's the no brainer pick. But he's a bit like JR Smith in that he has every imaginable tool and yet can't seem to do the right thing on the court the majority of the time.


yep, Edwards gave zero effs and did a lot of chuckin last year. It definitely reflected in his 3P%. His shot looks pretty decent to me.


If you look at his recent workout videos, it appears that he's in super shape and has worked on and improved his 3-pt shot. The point I'm getting at is he's a hard worker and will work to become a top player worthy of being a top pick. What do you think?

(He's my #1 pick, so am afraid of projecting my bias towards him.)
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1234 » by jason bourne » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:40 pm

jamesnamida wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:this is what I think the warriors board is right now

1. Edwards
2. Wiseman
3. Vassell
4. Hali
5. Bey

I've noticed all the guys they're "rumored to love" are all the non-shooters, which means they're probably all about the shooters (as they should be)


Edwards isn't a shooter tho,
So I think (hope) it'll be between wiseman and cassell
The warriors do love smokescreens tho


The deep shooters are lower in the draft because they don't have the other talent. We got the top 3 consensus and while the Warriors can draft Vassell at #2 they are taking a risk of passing up an All-Star or Superstar. They also miss the Bust. I don't mind if they do, but people will be laughing at us if Vassell isn't that good. Bypassing the consensus isn't easy. I think the Ws would rather trade down then and that seems to one of their goals before the draft. They'll draft one of the top 3 if they can't.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1235 » by Little Digger » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:06 pm

I’m down to 4 options at #2

In order of preference


1. Trade down and draft Okoro

2. Trade totally out of the first round (if a good trade offer comes in)

3 Draft Wiseman at 2

4. Draft Okoro at 2
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1236 » by Coxy » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:24 pm

wco81 wrote:Warriors need size and it so happens that Wiseman has a high ceiling, though there are questions about his motor and heart.

Athleticism of Edwards is enticing but unless they move Wiggins, he wouldn't help as much, unless he turns out to be the second coming of Harden who also defends at a high level.


Harden defends at a high level? Are you sniffing glue?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1237 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:28 pm

Coxy wrote:
wco81 wrote:Warriors need size and it so happens that Wiseman has a high ceiling, though there are questions about his motor and heart.

Athleticism of Edwards is enticing but unless they move Wiggins, he wouldn't help as much, unless he turns out to be the second coming of Harden who also defends at a high level.


Harden defends at a high level? Are you sniffing glue?



No, it may not have been the best syntax but I mean creates shots like Harden but also defends.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1238 » by HiRez » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:29 pm


That's a pretty good article, the key phrase being:

I don’t see how the Warriors pass on Wiseman, no matter how good Ball or Edwards might one day become.

In other words, don't overthink it. I'm guilty of that myself at times for sure, but Wiseman clearly makes the most sense and the only real question is whether he's still on the board when we pick.

Interesting that a bunch of mocks have Wiseman falling recently, like NBC has him #5, The Ringer has him at #6, The Rookie Wire has him at #8, and NBADraft.net now has Wiseman going #9, which is insane.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1239 » by Coxy » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:35 pm

wco81 wrote:
Coxy wrote:
wco81 wrote:Warriors need size and it so happens that Wiseman has a high ceiling, though there are questions about his motor and heart.

Athleticism of Edwards is enticing but unless they move Wiggins, he wouldn't help as much, unless he turns out to be the second coming of Harden who also defends at a high level.


Harden defends at a high level? Are you sniffing glue?



No, it may not have been the best syntax but I mean creates shots like Harden but also defends.


There’s a reason why Houston don’t win chips dude. Harden is INEPT on defence. Like, he doesn’t even try, it’s embarrassing. I think you’ve hoodwinked into thinking he does try on D for some reason, but I’m telling you he only cares about offensive numbers.

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1240 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:19 pm

Once again, I'm not saying Harden defends.

I'm saying IF Edwards can score like Harden but also defend, unlike Harden.

You guys have funny accent but seem to be okay with English. ;)

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