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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#1221 » by KevinMcreynolds » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:08 pm

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:Wagner looks like a good player, but that would be the least exciting pick ever. I'd be stoked with Moody or Keon, I'd be ok with Bouknight. I'm not really feeling anyone at 7 besides them, unless one of the top 6 drops to us.

I'm agreeing with this. The thing is when we got tiered out and became the top team to select in the second tier then we focus alot on warts. The phrase of 'I would take them at 14 but not 7,' became real popular. The bpa fits here since the group we are aiming at probably will all be gone by 14. If the team feels that Wagner, mitchell, bouknight, is worth the 14 pick then drafting them at 7 doesn't matter. Draft them at 7. It isn't a 7 player top tier draft. It's a 6 player tier draft.. but that's not to say we can't find players at 7 and 14. It's like fantasy football. 'Owners' don't like 1st pick if top pick due to pressure. If drafting a player is too high but you know they won't make it back to you then just draft the player you want. The team has to take the same philosphy


I like guys like Wagner, Kispert and Mitchell at 14. You gotta figure at least one of those three guys will fall to that spot.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#1222 » by wco81 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:14 pm

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:Wagner looks like a good player, but that would be the least exciting pick ever. I'd be stoked with Moody or Keon, I'd be ok with Bouknight. I'm not really feeling anyone at 7 besides them, unless one of the top 6 drops to us.

I'm agreeing with this. The thing is when we got tiered out and became the top team to select in the second tier then we focus alot on warts. The phrase of 'I would take them at 14 but not 7,' became real popular. The bpa fits here since the group we are aiming at probably will all be gone by 14. If the team feels that Wagner, mitchell, bouknight, is worth the 14 pick then drafting them at 7 doesn't matter. Draft them at 7. It isn't a 7 player top tier draft. It's a 6 player tier draft.. but that's not to say we can't find players at 7 and 14. It's like fantasy football. 'Owners' don't like 1st pick if top pick due to pressure. If drafting a player is too high but you know they won't make it back to you then just draft the player you want. The team has to take the same philosphy



By that logic, how many Warriors fans would have endorsed them picking say Saddiq Bey, who made the all-rookie first team, at #2 instead of JW?

A wing who could shoot is something the Warriors could have used last year and could still use this year and going forward.

Or how about Patrick Williams, who is on the second all-rookie team?
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Post#1223 » by osx28 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:25 pm

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:Wagner looks like a good player, but that would be the least exciting pick ever. I'd be stoked with Moody or Keon, I'd be ok with Bouknight. I'm not really feeling anyone at 7 besides them, unless one of the top 6 drops to us.

I'm agreeing with this. The thing is when we got tiered out and became the top team to select in the second tier then we focus alot on warts. The phrase of 'I would take them at 14 but not 7,' became real popular. The bpa fits here since the group we are aiming at probably will all be gone by 14. If the team feels that Wagner, mitchell, bouknight, is worth the 14 pick then drafting them at 7 doesn't matter. Draft them at 7. It isn't a 7 player top tier draft. It's a 6 player tier draft.. but that's not to say we can't find players at 7 and 14. It's like fantasy football. 'Owners' don't like 1st pick if top pick due to pressure. If drafting a player is too high but you know they won't make it back to you then just draft the player you want. The team has to take the same philosphy



By that logic, how many Warriors fans would have endorsed them picking say Saddiq Bey, who made the all-rookie first team, at #2 instead of JW?

A wing who could shoot is something the Warriors could have used last year and could still use this year and going forward.

Or how about Patrick Williams, who is on the second all-rookie team?


Oh i remember quite a few that wanted Bey over WS, even now I have friends who argue Bey would have been better. I don't like the logic, but yeah it happens every year
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Post#1224 » by shazam_guy » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:39 pm

Repeat: Springer looks like a better fit to me than Keon, and likely a better NBA player long-term.
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Post#1225 » by shazam_guy » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:43 pm

Repeat: Springer looks like a better fit to me than Keon, and likely a better NBA player long-term. Shot MUCH better from three (like 40+ percent to 27-something percent from Keon) is a big, muscular guard who plays good defense, and was at least as good as Johnson in every category. And they played side by side, so it's not like you're comparing different programs. Frankly, if Keon didn't have such an amazing vertical leap, I can't even understand why anyone would put him above his running-mate.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#1226 » by mos_def » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:59 pm

wco81 wrote:
mos_def wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:Wagner looks like a good player, but that would be the least exciting pick ever. I'd be stoked with Moody or Keon, I'd be ok with Bouknight. I'm not really feeling anyone at 7 besides them, unless one of the top 6 drops to us.

I'm agreeing with this. The thing is when we got tiered out and became the top team to select in the second tier then we focus alot on warts. The phrase of 'I would take them at 14 but not 7,' became real popular. The bpa fits here since the group we are aiming at probably will all be gone by 14. If the team feels that Wagner, mitchell, bouknight, is worth the 14 pick then drafting them at 7 doesn't matter. Draft them at 7. It isn't a 7 player top tier draft. It's a 6 player tier draft.. but that's not to say we can't find players at 7 and 14. It's like fantasy football. 'Owners' don't like 1st pick if top pick due to pressure. If drafting a player is too high but you know they won't make it back to you then just draft the player you want. The team has to take the same philosphy



By that logic, how many Warriors fans would have endorsed them picking say Saddiq Bey, who made the all-rookie first team, at #2 instead of JW?

A wing who could shoot is something the Warriors could have used last year and could still use this year and going forward.

Or how about Patrick Williams, who is on the second all-rookie team?


We didn't have two picks last year so the Bey comparison to Wisemab would be moot. The Patrick Williams one though is more comparable, though we still don't have picks close together. If the team thought pat Williams was the better player than they should have taken pat williams
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#1227 » by mos_def » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:01 pm

shazam_guy wrote:Repeat: Springer looks like a better fit to me than Keon, and likely a better NBA player long-term. Shot MUCH better from three (like 40+ percent to 27-something percent from Keon) is a big, muscular guard who plays good defense, and was at least as good as Johnson in every category. And they played side by side, so it's not like you're comparing different programs. Frankly, if Keon didn't have such an amazing vertical leap, I can't even understand why anyone would put him above his running-mate.

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Post#1228 » by GSWFan1994 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:17 pm

If we get Kuminga and Springer I'd be delighted.

And sincerely, this is getting realistically possible by the day.

Just imagine a Wiseman/Poole/Kuminga/Springer core in 2 or 3 years... :clap:
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Post#1229 » by GQ Hot Dog » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:44 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:If we get Kuminga and Springer I'd be delighted.

And sincerely, this is getting realistically possible by the day.

Just imagine a Wiseman/Poole/Kuminga/Springer core in 2 or 3 years... :clap:


Oh man, if Kuminga falls to us at #7 I would be ecstatic. Regardless of the roughness of his offensive game, his got the NBA body to compete on defense off the bench from day one.

Kuminga at #7 and Ziaire Williams at #14 and our thin wing depth problem is solved for years. It would also potentially allow us to move on from Wiggins far easier once his contract expires.
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Post#1230 » by wco81 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:51 pm

Kuminga's G League stats are horrid.

No signs he can shoot.

What did he do as a prep that got him so hyped or is it just about the body and athletic traits?

Can he play at all or is he just an athlete?
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Post#1231 » by GSWFan1994 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:14 pm

wco81 wrote:Kuminga's G League stats are horrid.

No signs he can shoot.

What did he do as a prep that got him so hyped or is it just about the body and athletic traits?

Can he play at all or is he just an athlete?


Maybe you can check his tools here:



Friendly reminder that Kuminga will play all of next season as a 19-year old rookie.

This past season, in the G-League, would be his senior high school season, as he reclassified.

Guy's gonna be a whole different animal in 2/3 years.

The younger you enter the draft as a high-rated prospect, the better are your chances to have a drastic improvement curve.

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Post#1232 » by watch1958 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:45 pm

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Post#1233 » by ChuckDurn » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:47 pm

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GSWFan1994 wrote:If we get Kuminga and Springer I'd be delighted.

And sincerely, this is getting realistically possible by the day.

Just imagine a Wiseman/Poole/Kuminga/Springer core in 2 or 3 years... :clap:


Oh man, if Kuminga falls to us at #7 I would be ecstatic. Regardless of the roughness of his offensive game, his got the NBA body to compete on defense off the bench from day one.

Kuminga at #7 and Ziaire Williams at #14 and our thin wing depth problem is solved for years. It would also potentially allow us to move on from Wiggins far easier once his contract expires.

By “thin wing depth”, I assume you’re not referring to the fact that Williams is something like 6’17” and 124 pounds, right?

(Just kidding…… but the truth is he’s going to need to add at least 25 pounds of muscle over the next 2-3 years.)
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Post#1234 » by EvanZ » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:52 pm

I heard a rumor that we're "locked on" Giddey. For various reasons the irony would be tremendous.
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Post#1235 » by KevinMcreynolds » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:18 pm

Don’t see how it’s possible they would be interested in him. His shot is brutal.
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Post#1236 » by Onus » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:39 pm

I’d assume they really want to trade down out of 7, regardless of who is there.
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Post#1237 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:48 am

EvanZ wrote:I heard a rumor that we're "locked on" Giddey. For various reasons the irony would be tremendous.


makes more sense in our system than Mitchell but ugh, not sure about him in the lotto either.

i'm fully preparing to be disappointed again with the draft based on a lot of the names I'm seeing being thrown out there for us (Kispert, Mitchell, Kai, Giddey).

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Post#1238 » by HiRez » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:57 am

clyde21 wrote:makes more sense in our system than Mitchell but ugh

How does Davion Mitchell not "make sense in our system"? He shot 57% from 2 and 45% from 3, he's a very good passer, a good athlete who plays bigger than his listed size, plays tenacious defense, good motor and work ethic, and high BBIQ. By all accounts is more NBA-ready than most people in this draft. What about that isn't good for us? Now I'm not saying he can't be criticized (his FT% is the main one for me), but the guy appears to have a lot of things we need, and can plug into our system without blowing it up.

EDIT: I'm iffy on Mitchell at #7, but I'd probably take him without much hesitation at #14.
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