Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

Post #1221 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 12:01 am

Pacers likely do either of these deals..

Wiseman, Moody for Duarte, Goga

Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga for Duarte, Turner, Oshae

Do the Warriors like one?

cdubbz · Post #1222 » by **cdubbz** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 2:35 am

zimpy27 wrote:Pacers likely do either of these deals..

Wiseman, Moody for Duarte, Goga

Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga for Duarte, Turner, Oshae

Do the Warriors like one?

Warriors wouldn't

cdubbz · Post #1223 » by **cdubbz** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 2:41 am

Klay Thompson & JaMichael Green for Kevin Durant. No picks added. maybe a 2nd rounder. I LOVE Klay Thompson and he needs to be a Warrior for life, but Greens salary doesn't help to get a KD.

cdubbz · Post #1224 » by **cdubbz** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 2:43 am

Draymond Green for John Collins & Kaminsky.

Post #1225 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 2:53 am

cdubbz wrote:Klay Thompson & JaMichael Green for Kevin Durant. No picks added. maybe a 2nd rounder. I LOVE Klay Thompson and he needs to be a Warrior for life, but Greens salary doesn't help to get a KD.

Can't tell if serious.

clyde21 · Post #1226 » by **clyde21** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 3:11 am

zimpy27 wrote:Pacers likely do either of these deals..

Wiseman, Moody for Duarte, Goga

Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga for Duarte, Turner, Oshae

Do the Warriors like one?

i'd do Poole/Kuminga/Wiseman for Turner/Duarte, but would need to wait after the yr and a Turner S&T

Post #1227 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 3:44 am

clyde21 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Pacers likely do either of these deals..

Wiseman, Moody for Duarte, Goga

Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga for Duarte, Turner, Oshae

Do the Warriors like one?

i'd do Poole/Kuminga/Wiseman for Turner/Duarte, but would need to wait after the yr and a Turner S&T

Interesting, I think you could get value for Poole still from some teams buying the hype.

DonaldSanders · Post #1228 » by **DonaldSanders** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 4:26 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Interesting, I think you could get value for Poole still from some teams buying the hype.

Oof, I don't think many (any?) around here would agree with Clyde on that one. Clyde is the resident "I'm sick of Poole" guy around here :lol:

I can't see us wanting anyone on that list except Turner but I don't think we have the salaries to match up. I've played a bit with Indiana in the trade machine, I don't think there is much possible.

Coxy · Post #1229 » by **Coxy** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 4:45 am

DonaldSanders wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Interesting, I think you could get value for Poole still from some teams buying the hype.

Oof, I don't think many (any?) around here would agree with Clyde on that one. Clyde is the resident "I'm sick of Poole" guy around here

I can't see us wanting anyone on that list except Turner but I don't think we have the salaries to match up. I've played a bit with Indiana in the trade machine, I don't think there is much possible.

There are tonnes of deals possible between the 2, you're not trying hard enough.

I'd easily take Turner/SRP for Wiseman/Kuminga

Lightsx3 · Post #1230 » by **Lightsx3** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 12:22 pm

Don't want to trade Kuminga at this point and even now he can be useful and only getting better. Wiseman though I'd trade him for Kelly Olynyk straight up, he'll be playable with pretty much any of our lineup that can space the floor and pass or for Poeltl. Include Rollins/PBJ or a future pick if we have to. We just need a servicable backup big that fits the Warrior

cdubbz · Post #1231 » by **cdubbz** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 5:02 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
cdubbz wrote:Klay Thompson & JaMichael Green for Kevin Durant. No picks added. maybe a 2nd rounder. I LOVE Klay Thompson and he needs to be a Warrior for life, but Greens salary doesn't help to get a KD.

Can't tell if serious.

lol im not. just throwing any trade idea out at this point.

Warriors Analyst · Post #1232 » by **Warriors Analyst** » Sat Nov 5, 2022 5:09 pm

Lightsx3 wrote:Don't want to trade Kuminga at this point and even now he can be useful and only getting better. Wiseman though I'd trade him for Kelly Olynyk straight up, he'll be playable with pretty much any of our lineup that can space the floor and pass or for Poeltl. Include Rollins/PBJ or a future pick if we have to. We just need a servicable backup big that fits the Warrior

This is the move. Would really do wonders for both Poole and Kuminga

DonaldSanders · Post #1233 » by **DonaldSanders** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 8:34 am

Warriors Analyst wrote:
Lightsx3 wrote:Don't want to trade Kuminga at this point and even now he can be useful and only getting better. Wiseman though I'd trade him for Kelly Olynyk straight up, he'll be playable with pretty much any of our lineup that can space the floor and pass or for Poeltl. Include Rollins/PBJ or a future pick if we have to. We just need a servicable backup big that fits the Warrior

This is the move. Would really do wonders for both Poole and Kuminga

Getting Olynyk would be amazing, but if you spend time in Jazz circles (which I have due to them being a fun team to watch this year) it doesn't feel like team will be jumping to trade players unless they really fall off. Getting rid of one of their best core vets (KO) for a bad player (Wiseman) won't happen without attaching more and if their.

I'd really rather keep Kuminga and if we do trade with a team, offer some combo of PBJ/Rollins/Wiseman and a 1st or 2nd. If a Poeltl +2nd swap was possible I'd do it in a heartbeat but they have been doing decently and like the Jazz would only do it if they truly want to take. We have to be realistic, the GMs around the league see Wiseman as the ultra rough tank commander that he is right now, he's really only for a team that actually wants to lose and gets a chance of him improving along the way.

DAWill1128 · Post #1234 » by **DAWill1128** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 8:50 am

Wiseman could be shipped for any of the following players, contracts match up.

Jakob Poetl
Richaun Holmes
Terrance Ross
McConnell + James Johnson
Theis + James Johnson
Mason Plumlee

McConnell and James Johnson is one, which is purely a fit trade. Actually kind of crazy in hindsight to trade a #2 pick for two minimum contract caliber guys. But McConnell is a good backup, could push Jordan to playing more shooting guard. Johnson can do a lot of things Dray can as a great passing and defensive 4-5. Don't know why Johnson was never brought in here, seems like somebody useful for us.

TB · Post #1235 » by TB » Mon Nov 7, 2022 6:46 pm

Trying to be somewhat realistic, I'd be offering Wiseman/PBJ/Rollins (any combo of them) for:

Vanderbilt/Gay - I know Utah likes Walker Kessler, but it would be hard to say no to a flyer on 2 1st rounders and Rollins for a glue guy when they are in rebuild mode. This is the one I like the most. I also understand the Olynyk idea, but much prefer Vanderbilt for fit and age.

Poeltl - its possible Spurs don't think they will keep him, and maybe we can find a way to keep him as part of the Wiggins/Poole timeline.

I know the Warriors aren't going to do any of these unless the record gets REAL bad, because they are invested in Wiseman/PBJ... for me its not a panic move just because I would have wanted them gone long ago or never would have drafted PBJ lol.

clyde21 · Post #1236 » by **clyde21** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 7:52 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:Wiseman could be shipped for any of the following players, contracts match up.

Jakob Poetl
Richaun Holmes
Terrance Ross
McConnell + James Johnson
Theis + James Johnson
Mason Plumlee

McConnell and James Johnson is one, which is purely a fit trade. Actually kind of crazy in hindsight to trade a #2 pick for two minimum contract caliber guys. But McConnell is a good backup, could push Jordan to playing more shooting guard. Johnson can do a lot of things Dray can as a great passing and defensive 4-5. Don't know why Johnson was never brought in here, seems like somebody useful for us.

the problem is, and i've been saying this, we waited too long. this is just abysmal value at this point.

Warriors Analyst · Post #1237 » by **Warriors Analyst** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 10:41 pm

clyde21 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Wiseman could be shipped for any of the following players, contracts match up.

Jakob Poetl
Richaun Holmes
Terrance Ross
McConnell + James Johnson
Theis + James Johnson
Mason Plumlee

McConnell and James Johnson is one, which is purely a fit trade. Actually kind of crazy in hindsight to trade a #2 pick for two minimum contract caliber guys. But McConnell is a good backup, could push Jordan to playing more shooting guard. Johnson can do a lot of things Dray can as a great passing and defensive 4-5. Don't know why Johnson was never brought in here, seems like somebody useful for us.

the problem is, and i've been saying this, we waited too long. this is just abysmal value at this point.

Sell high point was his rookie season. Christian Wood was probably gettable back then.

clyde21 · Post #1238 » by **clyde21** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 11:31 pm

Warriors Analyst wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Wiseman could be shipped for any of the following players, contracts match up.

Jakob Poetl
Richaun Holmes
Terrance Ross
McConnell + James Johnson
Theis + James Johnson
Mason Plumlee

McConnell and James Johnson is one, which is purely a fit trade. Actually kind of crazy in hindsight to trade a #2 pick for two minimum contract caliber guys. But McConnell is a good backup, could push Jordan to playing more shooting guard. Johnson can do a lot of things Dray can as a great passing and defensive 4-5. Don't know why Johnson was never brought in here, seems like somebody useful for us.

the problem is, and i've been saying this, we waited too long. this is just abysmal value at this point.

Sell high point was his rookie season. Christian Wood was probably gettable back then.

Tyrese. fkn Haliburton.

he was gettable like 3 times lol.

Coxy · Post #1239 » by **Coxy** » Tue Nov 8, 2022 12:16 am

clyde21 wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Wiseman could be shipped for any of the following players, contracts match up.

Jakob Poetl
Richaun Holmes
Terrance Ross
McConnell + James Johnson
Theis + James Johnson
Mason Plumlee

McConnell and James Johnson is one, which is purely a fit trade. Actually kind of crazy in hindsight to trade a #2 pick for two minimum contract caliber guys. But McConnell is a good backup, could push Jordan to playing more shooting guard. Johnson can do a lot of things Dray can as a great passing and defensive 4-5. Don't know why Johnson was never brought in here, seems like somebody useful for us.

the problem is, and i've been saying this, we waited too long. this is just abysmal value at this point.

It really is. I think Poetl or Holmes would be a decent get though.

HiRez · Post #1240 » by **HiRez** » Tue Nov 8, 2022 12:25 am

Is there a reasonable trade with the Knicks for Isaiah Hartenstein? Legit size and skills, good defender, toughness/physicality, good screener, very good passer, and doesn't need the ball a lot. I know the Knicks just picked him up and we'd probably have to pay a good price, but seems like exactly the kind of guy we need.