Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

Mylie10 · Post #1301 » by **Mylie10** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 6:54 am

Gasol, Adams, or even Baynes (which might be the most gettable) would be the perfect addition to the roster.

ahmetmekin · Post #1302 » by **ahmetmekin** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 6:57 am

Mylie10 wrote:Gasol, Adams, or even Baynes (which might be the most gettable) would be the perfect addition to the roster.

Adams is also gettable I think/hope/guess if you attach a pick to Wiggins.

Coxy · Post #1303 » by **Coxy** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 7:02 am

Mylie10 wrote:Gasol, Adams, or even Baynes (which might be the most gettable) would be the perfect addition to the roster.

Does Gasol have anything left?

BongBoyKlay · Post #1304 » by **BongBoyKlay** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 10:28 pm

This is just speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors and Timberwolves have some sort of quiet agreement regarding this year's draft picks. If we end up with the higher pick in this year's draft, the Timberwolves trade their first round pick plus the Brooklyn pick to move up to our pick. The Timberwolves don't really need two more young guys as they are trying to win now to keep Towns and DLO happy. Hopefully, they fall in love with someone at the top of the draft that they believe could be their third core player.

Post #1305 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 11:51 pm

ahmetmekin wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Gasol, Adams, or even Baynes (which might be the most gettable) would be the perfect addition to the roster.

Adams is also gettable I think/hope/guess if you attach a pick to Wiggins.

I’m down. Adams was playing really good before Capela blindsided him.

azwfan · Post #1306 » by **azwfan** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 1:16 am

BongBoyKlay wrote:This is just speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors and Timberwolves have some sort of quiet agreement regarding this year's draft picks. If we end up with the higher pick in this year's draft, the Timberwolves trade their first round pick plus the Brooklyn pick to move up to our pick. The Timberwolves don't really need two more young guys as they are trying to win now to keep Towns and DLO happy. Hopefully, they fall in love with someone at the top of the draft that they believe could be their third core player.

I don't see how that makes sense for us. Why do we need a mid-round 1st rd pick in a weak draft? Or are you guessing that BKN doesn't make the playoffs and it conveys to 2021?

BongBoyKlay · Post #1307 » by **BongBoyKlay** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 2:25 am

azwfan wrote:
BongBoyKlay wrote:This is just speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors and Timberwolves have some sort of quiet agreement regarding this year's draft picks. If we end up with the higher pick in this year's draft, the Timberwolves trade their first round pick plus the Brooklyn pick to move up to our pick. The Timberwolves don't really need two more young guys as they are trying to win now to keep Towns and DLO happy. Hopefully, they fall in love with someone at the top of the draft that they believe could be their third core player.

I don't see how that makes sense for us. Why do we need a mid-round 1st rd pick in a weak draft? Or are you guessing that BKN doesn't make the playoffs and it conveys to 2021?

Not really saying we need a mid round 1st, but I’m not sure if any of the guys currently projected to be taken at the top of the draft make sense for the Warriors. I don’t really like the Warriors taking a guy like Edwards, Ball, or one of the other guards. I see a guy like Okoro being a much better fit for the Warriors, so we could potentially trade down and still take him while picking up another pick. That extra pick could be used to trade for a player using our TPE or pick a more experienced college player that would be more likely to contribute right away off the bench. Maybe a three and d wing or some kind of specialist.

azwfan · Post #1308 » by **azwfan** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 2:50 am

BongBoyKlay wrote:
azwfan wrote:
BongBoyKlay wrote:This is just speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors and Timberwolves have some sort of quiet agreement regarding this year's draft picks. If we end up with the higher pick in this year's draft, the Timberwolves trade their first round pick plus the Brooklyn pick to move up to our pick. The Timberwolves don't really need two more young guys as they are trying to win now to keep Towns and DLO happy. Hopefully, they fall in love with someone at the top of the draft that they believe could be their third core player.

I don't see how that makes sense for us. Why do we need a mid-round 1st rd pick in a weak draft? Or are you guessing that BKN doesn't make the playoffs and it conveys to 2021?

Not really saying we need a mid round 1st, but I’m not sure if any of the guys currently projected to be taken at the top of the draft make sense for the Warriors. I don’t really like the Warriors taking a guy like Edwards, Ball, or one of the other guards. I see a guy like Okoro being a much better fit for the Warriors, so we could potentially trade down and still take him while picking up another pick. That extra pick could be used to trade for a player using our TPE or pick a more experienced college player that would be more likely to contribute right away off the bench. Maybe a three and d wing or some kind of specialist.

I think it would make mroe sense to trade down to acquire a proven player that could help us instead of another rookie.

We need a starting C, a quality 3/4 and a quality backup guard at minimum.

So I could see Wiseman as a starting center. If we aren't in a position to draft him, then I'm all for trading down... but I'd want the trade down to be for a either a starting center, a quality 3/4, or a quality backup guard (in that order). I wouldn't expect a rookie taken 15ish in this draft to be someone we could count on for any of those 3 needs. Like as a guard, i would wonder if he (in his rookie year) could be better than Damian Lee. If we draft a forward in that spot, i'd be surprised if he was on par with Eric Paschall. And if a center, i'd be surprised if he were better than Chriss or Looney.

Just my opinion obviously, as I'm no 2020 draft expert, but with many saying this is a weak draft and GSW apparently valuing a protected 2021 pick over a sure fire top 2020 pick, I'm not really too excited about adding another end of the bench youngster (or Santa Cruzer).

So in short, the rookie taken at 15ish I would expect to just add to the clutter we partially cleared up with the Jacob Evans / Spellman deal. If we're going to add young players, we should be adding quality young players prospects (like top 8 picks in a draft like the 2020 draft).

xdrta+ · Post #1309 » by **xdrta+** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:11 pm

As a point of interest, the Warriors created 4 more trade exceptions, for the deals with Burks, GR3, Spellman, and Evans, ranging from $1.6M to $1.9M+.

Mylie10 · Post #1310 » by **Mylie10** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:32 pm

xdrta+ wrote:As a point of interest, the Warriors created 4 more trade exceptions, for the deals with Burks, GR3, Spellman, and Evans, ranging from $1.6M to $1.9M+.

Most likely they let those expire. But who knows.

mplsfonz23 · Post #1311 » by **mplsfonz23** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:23 pm

azwfan wrote:
BongBoyKlay wrote:
azwfan wrote:I don't see how that makes sense for us. Why do we need a mid-round 1st rd pick in a weak draft? Or are you guessing that BKN doesn't make the playoffs and it conveys to 2021?

Not really saying we need a mid round 1st, but I’m not sure if any of the guys currently projected to be taken at the top of the draft make sense for the Warriors. I don’t really like the Warriors taking a guy like Edwards, Ball, or one of the other guards. I see a guy like Okoro being a much better fit for the Warriors, so we could potentially trade down and still take him while picking up another pick. That extra pick could be used to trade for a player using our TPE or pick a more experienced college player that would be more likely to contribute right away off the bench. Maybe a three and d wing or some kind of specialist.

I think it would make mroe sense to trade down to acquire a proven player that could help us instead of another rookie.

We need a starting C, a quality 3/4 and a quality backup guard at minimum.

So I could see Wiseman as a starting center. If we aren't in a position to draft him, then I'm all for trading down... but I'd want the trade down to be for a either a starting center, a quality 3/4, or a quality backup guard (in that order). I wouldn't expect a rookie taken 15ish in this draft to be someone we could count on for any of those 3 needs. Like as a guard, i would wonder if he (in his rookie year) could be better than Damian Lee. If we draft a forward in that spot, i'd be surprised if he was on par with Eric Paschall. And if a center, i'd be surprised if he were better than Chriss or Looney.

Just my opinion obviously, as I'm no 2020 draft expert, but with many saying this is a weak draft and GSW apparently valuing a protected 2021 pick over a sure fire top 2020 pick, I'm not really too excited about adding another end of the bench youngster (or Santa Cruzer).

So in short, the rookie taken at 15ish I would expect to just add to the clutter we partially cleared up with the Jacob Evans / Spellman deal. If we're going to add young players, we should be adding quality young players prospects (like top 8 picks in a draft like the 2020 draft).

Still doesn't make sense for us. Wiseman is the only one in the draft that seems cant miss, and then there are questions surrounding him.
Why would the Wolves trade two picks away to move up possibly 1-2 spots. I think we are 4th right now, and don't see it getting better. It's going to be a hard pass on Ball, we already have a C, and already have a starting PG. We should be just standing pat and take the BPA that drops to us.
You got one good pick from us, don't get greedy.

OptionZero · Post #1312 » by **OptionZero** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:18 pm

how the **** does Wiseman seem like can't miss? lmao

and just hilarious point:

In a vacuum, isn't MIN that absolute LAST team anyone would want to do a shady side deal with?

freypies · Post #1313 » by **freypies** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:23 am

What do people think of the following trade?
Two-parter with Dallas:
Paschall + cash for Jalen Brunson
TPE + our 2020 pick for Darius Finney-Smith + Delon Wright

BayWarrior · Post #1314 » by **BayWarrior** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:26 pm

Wiseman can potentially fill a need for years to come and is not a stretch to go #1-5. But if he is not available, there isn't another player at the top of the draft that moves the needle for GS. Wiseman doesn't even need to be a superstar, just be as good as Bogut was during the first run at the championship. If not I wouldn't mind Edwards if we don't get Wiseman or slide all the way to 5 and get Deni Avdija but wouldn't mind passing on both and trading down for more assets.

BballIntellect · Post #1315 » by **BballIntellect** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:51 pm

You are all torturing yourselves trying to figure out who the Warriors might draft when in reality they'll simply trade down because they aren't enamored by anybody at the top of this weak draft.

There's already been multiple articles about the front office not liking this draft at all. You all make me laugh thinking they will use a Top 5 pick on Wiseman or Okoro or whatever. They'll try to trade down and collection assets. #LightYears

wco81 · Post #1316 » by **wco81** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:47 pm

I don't think there are too many teams looking to trade up in this draft class

BballIntellect · Post #1317 » by **BballIntellect** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:08 pm

wco81 wrote:I don't think there are too many teams looking to trade up in this draft class

That's evident but small market teams like Charlotte, Detroit, Atlanta or Cleveland will definitely be calling the Warriors if they get to pick in front of them. Especially if they get the first pick in the draft.

Imagine the prospect of a guy like Anthony Edwards for a team like the Hornets with all of the misery their fanbase has been apart of.

freypies · Post #1318 » by **freypies** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:11 pm

BayWarrior wrote:Wiseman can potentially fill a need for years to come and is not a stretch to go #1-5. But if he is not available, there isn't another player at the top of the draft that moves the needle for GS. Wiseman doesn't even need to be a superstar, just be as good as Bogut was during the first run at the championship. If not I wouldn't mind Edwards if we don't get Wiseman or slide all the way to 5 and get Deni Avdija but wouldn't mind passing on both and trading down for more assets.

Wiseman is almost certainly not going to be as good as Bogut was, at least not for the next 2-3 years. He was a decent impact defender in college, while Bogut was one of the best defenders at center in the NBA. Bogut's passing was also sublime.

xdrta+ · Post #1319 » by **xdrta+** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:13 pm

BayWarrior wrote:Wiseman can potentially fill a need for years to come and is not a stretch to go #1-5. But if he is not available, there isn't another player at the top of the draft that moves the needle for GS. Wiseman doesn't even need to be a superstar, just be as good as Bogut was during the first run at the championship. If not I wouldn't mind Edwards if we don't get Wiseman or slide all the way to 5 and get Deni Avdija but wouldn't mind passing on both and trading down for more assets.

Bogut was an experienced NBA defensive monster that first championship year. Expecting Wiseman to be in that class is way beyond realistic.

Mylie10 · Post #1320 » by **Mylie10** » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:55 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
BayWarrior wrote:Wiseman can potentially fill a need for years to come and is not a stretch to go #1-5. But if he is not available, there isn't another player at the top of the draft that moves the needle for GS. Wiseman doesn't even need to be a superstar, just be as good as Bogut was during the first run at the championship. If not I wouldn't mind Edwards if we don't get Wiseman or slide all the way to 5 and get Deni Avdija but wouldn't mind passing on both and trading down for more assets.

Bogut was an experienced NBA defensive monster that first championship year. Expecting Wiseman to be in that class is way beyond realistic.

Bogut is amongst 4he best defensive centers of All Time.

Draymond credits Bogut more than any other for how the defense was orchestrated those first few years together, when we were leading the league in defense. Especially defensive fg%.

I wouldn't expect that from Wiseman, but I think he's going to be a solid defender and rebounder. His hands are huge and he's got a 7'4" wingspan and good instincts.

But what's key is that he'll be a much better offensive player than what is being talked about by many.

Wiseman should be or help sooner than later for sure.