Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

[ahmetmekin]

I would target Crowder, but I am uncertain if the Suns trade him to the Warriors.

would you be willing to trade Wiseman or Kuminga/Moody for him as a one year rental coming off the bench? I agree he would help the bench but it seems like a lot to give up.

agree that the Suns might not want to be trade partners with the Dubs so maybe if it turned into a multi-team deal they could get in with other assets?

Kuminga has more trade value compared to Wiseman and Moody. I guess Wiseman or Moody (and maybe a sweetener, and obviously this trade requires a third team sending vets to the Suns) would be fair. I also think, Crowder might start instead of Looney since he wants to start and starting is not that big of a deal for Looney. He would be a great fit both on offense and defense and become the 4th or 5th best player on the team. Covington would also work and probably easier to get. I think the priority is a 3/4 with strong perimeter defense and relatively cheap contract. A 2nd unit mediocre cheap center would not hurt either.

[eminence]

Crowder target makes sense to me. Somebody like Houston or San Antonio to take Wiseman and send vets to Phoenix (Phoenix can send out more matching in the form of guys like Saric if needed).

Wiseman to SA
Crowder to GS
Richardson to PHX

Or some such, with minor value tweaks?

[whatisacenter]

I would target Crowder, but I am uncertain if the Suns trade him to the Warriors.

would you be willing to trade Wiseman or Kuminga/Moody for him as a one year rental coming off the bench? I agree he would help the bench but it seems like a lot to give up.

agree that the Suns might not want to be trade partners with the Dubs so maybe if it turned into a multi-team deal they could get in with other assets?

Kuminga has more trade value compared to Wiseman and Moody. I guess Wiseman or Moody (and maybe a sweetener, and obviously this trade requires a third team sending vets to the Suns) would be fair. I also think, Crowder might start instead of Looney since he wants to start and starting is not that big of a deal for Looney. He would be a great fit both on offense and defense and become the 4th or 5th best player on the team. Covington would also work and probably easier to get. I think the priority is a 3/4 with strong perimeter defense and relatively cheap contract. A 2nd unit mediocre cheap center would not hurt either.

this would force Draymond to play the 5 and that is not going to happen during the regular season. I'm not really crazy about Crowder but if they can land him and Poeltl somehow that would appeal to me more.

[HiRez]

what do you think about Myles Turner?

I think Kerr doesn't want another position-locked center (one who doesn't pass much), and Lacob & Myers don't want to give up their young assets for a rental in any case.

[wco81]

Crowder has one year left and he tends to chuck.

[BayWarrior]

GSW Out: Patrick Baldwin Jr.
SAS Out: Gorgui Dieng

With Wisemans Value as low as it can get, why trade him now when he can probably get the same package at the trade deadline as he can now. Hopefully he can either figure it out or at least become a neutral trade instead of net negative.

Dieng isn't playing much but is a smart Veteran who can eat up some minutes at the Center spot.
PBJ would be low risk project for SAS for a player at the end of their bench and I'm feeling like GSW doesn't need another project

[Coxy]

GSW Out: Patrick Baldwin Jr.
SAS Out: Gorgui Dieng

With Wisemans Value as low as it can get, why trade him now when he can probably get the same package at the trade deadline as he can now. Hopefully he can either figure it out or at least become a neutral trade instead of net negative.

Dieng isn't playing much but is a smart Veteran who can eat up some minutes at the Center spot.
PBJ would be low risk project for SAS for a player at the end of their bench and I'm feeling like GSW doesn't need another project

Not bad.

[Big J]

What do you guys think about Wiseman for Zach Collins? He’s an under the radar big who would fit well in our system. He can block shots, shoot 3s and pass a little.

[BayWarrior]

What do you guys think about Wiseman for Zach Collins? He’s an under the radar big who would fit well in our system. He can block shots, shoot 3s and pass a little.

I could get behind this.

[wco81]

Collins is soft and injury prone.

He's not sturdy and doesn't seem like a big rebounder. He can shoot a little though.

[Big J]

Collins is soft and injury prone.

He's not sturdy and doesn't seem like a big rebounder. He can shoot a little though.

OPJ was injury prone also.

[wco81]

OPJ was the #3 pick of his draft and played well enough on his rookie contract to earn a big extension, almost $30 million a year average.

Collins has never produced, again due to injuries.

He's a career 33% shooter from 3 on low volume, though he's shooting 37.5 so far this year.

His rebounding average is 4.3. Curry is averaging 6.6 so far this year.

[cdubbz]

What do you guys think about Wiseman for Zach Collins? He’s an under the radar big who would fit well in our system. He can block shots, shoot 3s and pass a little.

I like Collins and have since his college year, but he gets injured a whole lot.

[Coxy]

OK so Saddiq Bey played 18 minutes tonight off the bench with both Ivey and Cunningham out. He's got to be available, get in Myers, they love them some Wiseman.

[tarantism]

Hate the Collins idea. What does he do well? He can space the floor a little but he's not a knock down shooter. Can't defend in space. Isn't mobile or particularly athletic, especially with all of the injuries. Isn't an effective drop big. Not notable as a passer or scorer. He's likely on his way out of the league. Definitely not trading or bumping any of the young guys from the rotation for him.

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[whatisacenter]

OK so Saddiq Bey played 18 minutes tonight off the bench with both Ivey and Cunningham out. He's got to be available, get in Myers, they love them some Wiseman.

why not just play Moody if you want Bey. not sure what he does well that we would want to trade for him?

[Coxy]

OK so Saddiq Bey played 18 minutes tonight off the bench with both Ivey and Cunningham out. He's got to be available, get in Myers, they love them some Wiseman.

why not just play Moody if you want Bey. not sure what he does well that we would want to trade for him?

I like Bey, think he has some great upside, and he's in a 3rd year slump. He's far better than Moody IMO.

[eminence]

I feel good about Steph/Wiggins/Dray/Looney. Klay/Poole are gonna be there one way or another. Kuminga/Lamb have had a promising little run. DD seems to be coming around alright, and I generally have faith in Moody to be an end of bench guy.

Basically - bench big seems like the only fixable problem to me right now (it's not realistic to address Poole/Klay problems through trade). Green as 4th big is fine, 3rd big is a stretch it seems.

[DonaldSanders]

I feel good about Steph/Wiggins/Dray/Looney. Klay/Poole are gonna be there one way or another. Kuminga/Lamb have had a promising little run. DD seems to be coming around alright, and I generally have faith in Moody to be an end of bench guy.

Basically - bench big seems like the only fixable problem to me right now (it's not realistic to address Poole/Klay problems through trade). Green as 4th big is fine, 3rd big is a stretch it seems.

The issue on the bench is that we have some decent/good performances but other than last night's version of Kuminga, nobody has really been great. I trust Poole will pick things up shooting wise as he has been better at distributing and defense lately, but we need "great" not "good" if we want to equal or exceed last year's team. I still think we need one more guy, likely a stretch big type (Olynyk possible with the Jazz slow down? A man can dream)

[ahmetmekin]

I feel good about Steph/Wiggins/Dray/Looney. Klay/Poole are gonna be there one way or another. Kuminga/Lamb have had a promising little run. DD seems to be coming around alright, and I generally have faith in Moody to be an end of bench guy.

Basically - bench big seems like the only fixable problem to me right now (it's not realistic to address Poole/Klay problems through trade). Green as 4th big is fine, 3rd big is a stretch it seems.

The issue on the bench is that we have some decent/good performances but other than last night's version of Kuminga, nobody has really been great. I trust Poole will pick things up shooting wise as he has been better at distributing and defense lately, but we need "great" not "good" if we want to equal or exceed last year's team. I still think we need one more guy, likely a stretch big type (Olynyk possible with the Jazz slow down? A man can dream)

For lineup versatility, a 4 who is a clear plus defensively would be my first choice rather than someone like Olynyk. A strong defense is pretty much necessary to match other elite teams.