"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[Twinkie defense]

Isn't center easier to play than PF, especially as a player gets older?

[hads]

Anyone who has seen Garnett and Bogut play against each other in the past knows that these two cannot stand each other. In fact, I seem to recall Garnett once got suspended for elbowing Bogues. Adding him to the roster would destory team chemistry.

[Coxy]

Anyone who has seen Garnett and Bogut play against each other in the past knows that these two cannot stand each other. In fact, I seem to recall Garnett once got suspended for elbowing Bogues. Adding him to the roster would destory team chemistry.

You could be right. KG is a massive ass plonker and Bogez would likely want to rearrange his face.

[californiadude]

Isn't center easier to play than PF, especially as a player gets older?

Yeah...Honestly my opinion is that Garnett really only has the juice to play center anymore. He tires pretty quickly running with PF's up the floor. I'd like Garnet but as a poster thoughtfully pointed out, Garnet and Bogut have gotten into scuffles in the past. I'd honestly be just fine offering a Lee for Lopez swap. I think Lopez is a decent buy low opportunity at this point. He doesn't rebound well but he's a decent rim protecter and you can't teach 7 ft. Seems like he could give us a good 25-28 min. a game for us. Between him, Bogut and Ezeli we'd be pretty set at center. I'd like our chances in a playoff series against the big boys a lot more.

[sfhand]

Reading this thread I think the mods should investigate and see if the Sacramento Kings front office has created a lot of sock puppet accounts to float some of their best ideas here prior to initiating trades in real life... I often disagree with FNQ but when we agree we really agree, it is far too early to make a panic move.

[Twinkie defense]

Why would Brooklyn want Lee? They are rebuilding. (Plus, hello defense, injuries?)

Doesn't matter if KG and Bogut don't get along - both those guys are big time competitors, you hate them if you have to play against them, love them if you get to play with them. KG would be perfect, dunno why we bother talking about him though, Warriors do not have the pieces to get that deal done.

[FNQ]

Anyone who has seen Garnett and Bogut play against each other in the past knows that these two cannot stand each other. In fact, I seem to recall Garnett once got suspended for elbowing Bogues. Adding him to the roster would destory team chemistry.

You could be right. KG is a massive ass plonker and Bogez would likely want to rearrange his face.

David Lee and Curry had funk too.. they'll get over it.

We have 0% chance of landing KG in the real world anyways, but I think they'd be terrific together. Only friction I could see is KG calling out Bogut's brittleness, but KG seems to save his hate for opposing players. Would absolutely love having KG here, he's still great. But Lee isn't doing it. Neither is Igudodala. We have so few assets to trade, and we simply cant afford to add salary with the pending Green free agency. We'll likely go into the tax there, and if we go into it this year, it starts stacking... not good.

Not only is making a trade a bad move, but its extremely unrealistic as well.

[californiadude]

Reading this thread I think the mods should investigate and see if the Sacramento Kings front office has created a lot of sock puppet accounts to float some of their best ideas here prior to initiating trades in real life... I often disagree with FNQ but when we agree we really agree, it is far too early to make a panic move.

I'll admit their have been a lot of bad ideas thrown around (by myself included) and I agree it'd be silly to make a "panic" move.

But when does it stop being to early??? How many Playoff series do we need to lose because of a lack of bigs? Hasn't the last 2 years been enough? Hasn't Bogut, Lee and Ezeli all missing significant time this season been enough??

We've only played what, two games where our entire squad has been active?

"We're not in Kansas anymore". We have a legit shot at title with a good center. We're arguably the best team in the league with a legitimate center. And too be honest, I don't think we even get out of the first round against OKC without one.

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[thizznation]

It feels like a pipe dream but I think KG / Bogut and Green coming off the bench would give us the title (bogut staying healthy as well)

[turk3d]

Reading this thread I think the mods should investigate and see if the Sacramento Kings front office has created a lot of sock puppet accounts to float some of their best ideas here prior to initiating trades in real life... I often disagree with FNQ but when we agree we really agree, it is far too early to make a panic move.

I'll admit their have been a lot of bad ideas thrown around (by myself included) and I agree it'd be silly to make a "panic" move.

But when does it stop being to early??? How many Playoff series do we need to lose because of a lack of bigs? Hasn't the last 2 years been enough? Hasn't Bogut, Lee and Ezeli all missing significant time this season been enough??

We've only played what, two games where our entire squad has been active?

"We're not in Kansas anymore". We have a legit shot at title with a good center. We're arguably the best team in the league with a legitimate center. And too be honest, I don't think we even get out of the first round against OKC without one.

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This year's team is way better than the previous two with much better coaching. When did we have the best record in tbe NBA at any point in the season, let alone now past the 1st 3rd of this season? If we go into the playoffs with Bogut intact, we have a great chance to go much farther than we did these previous season and even without him, we'd still have a great chance of doing better. The problem is there's really not any realistic deal out there which will improve much of our chances. If there was, of course that would be another story but I don't believe there is.

[Mylie10]

Isn't center easier to play than PF, especially as a player gets older?

Especially with teams going more four out small ball. I don't understand people who argue the other way on this one.

[NBAfan3024]

Reading this thread I think the mods should investigate and see if the Sacramento Kings front office has created a lot of sock puppet accounts to float some of their best ideas here prior to initiating trades in real life... I often disagree with FNQ but when we agree we really agree, it is far too early to make a panic move.

I'll admit their have been a lot of bad ideas thrown around (by myself included) and I agree it'd be silly to make a "panic" move.

But when does it stop being to early??? How many Playoff series do we need to lose because of a lack of bigs? Hasn't the last 2 years been enough? Hasn't Bogut, Lee and Ezeli all missing significant time this season been enough??

We've only played what, two games where our entire squad has been active?

"We're not in Kansas anymore". We have a legit shot at title with a good center. We're arguably the best team in the league with a legitimate center. And too be honest, I don't think we even get out of the first round against OKC without one.

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This year's team is way better than the previous two with much better coaching. When did we have the best record in tbe NBA at any point in the season, let alone now past the 1st 3rd of this season? If we go into the playoffs with Bogut intact, we have a great chance to go much farther than we did these previous season and even without him, we'd still have a great chance of doing better. The problem is there's really not any realistic deal out there which will improve much of our chances. If there was, of course that would be another story but I don't believe there is.

with Bogut chances to win it all is no doubt very high

[michaelm]

Reading this thread I think the mods should investigate and see if the Sacramento Kings front office has created a lot of sock puppet accounts to float some of their best ideas here prior to initiating trades in real life... I often disagree with FNQ but when we agree we really agree, it is far too early to make a panic move.

I'll admit their have been a lot of bad ideas thrown around (by myself included) and I agree it'd be silly to make a "panic" move.

But when does it stop being to early??? How many Playoff series do we need to lose because of a lack of bigs? Hasn't the last 2 years been enough? Hasn't Bogut, Lee and Ezeli all missing significant time this season been enough??

We've only played what, two games where our entire squad has been active?

"We're not in Kansas anymore". We have a legit shot at title with a good center. We're arguably the best team in the league with a legitimate center. And too be honest, I don't think we even get out of the first round against OKC without one.

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This year's team is way better than the previous two with much better coaching. When did we have the best record in tbe NBA at any point in the season, let alone now past the 1st 3rd of this season? If we go into the playoffs with Bogut intact, we have a great chance to go much farther than we did these previous season and even without him, we'd still have a great chance of doing better. The problem is there's really not any realistic deal out there which will improve much of our chances. If there was, of course that would be another story but I don't believe there is.

This. If you could trade Bogut and Lee for Marc Gasol next week obviously you do it. That is not happening in this space time continuum , however. If (perhaps with the qualifier by some remote chance, as Feltbot puts it) both are healthy for the play-offs, Ws have a great chance. The bet has already been placed. If play-off hopes are again thwarted, then change the team for next year, rather than weaken this year's team to obtain a low-grade back-up big who won't take the team over the top anyway. I am somewhat encouraged by murmurings that Bogut's current injury is not too bad, and that he and the Ws are endeavouring to get him absolutely right rather than risk him at all given their current favourable position in the standings. I have to agree with the visitor from the Bucks board who posted early in the course of the current thing that Bogut's injuries even when relatively minor do commonly become a saga though.

Although I am pretty much a basketball ignoramus, I would have gone after Pau Gasol, a proven play-off performer, rather than Love last off- season, although not at the cost of Klay.

[kaiballz]

i wish people would stop talking about trading lee to get rid of his contract when iggy is a much bigger problem

-> trading lee would damage us badly, team chemistry wise, considering hes the captain and the longest serving warrior on the team. what message are you sending to the other guys when you send away your most loyal player? Hey steph, you're awesome now but once u get old we're sending u off. have a good one.

also, lee's contract is far less damaging than iggy's since it expires soon, and can i ask if there's a possibility of lee signing for cheaper after it expires? do nba rules allow that? Cos i think lee would, out of love for the warriors.
if we're looking to move anyone, it should be iggy. a few reasons
#1 his contract is massive
#2 wouldn't mind if he was performing up to it but hes not even close now. hes improved dramatically since the **** he was putting in during the first 5 games, but it still isn't enough.
#3 he does basically the same thing as shaun livingston, but shaun has better bball iq and helps steph out more. With shaun, we dont really need iggy. also, shaun's FTs are so much better than iggy's...

[Mylie10]

How is Iguodalas deal massive? Its declining down the past two seasons. Not as big a deal as a lot of you guys want to make it.

I still think he does intangible things that Lee doesn't.

I'm OK with trading either of them if the right deal comes along but there should be no panic. I'm down for a smaller deal that brings us Brandan Wright.

[Kuya]

Koufos, Asik and Mozgov are sensible targets, but Memphis would never trade us Koufos.

[InWestWeTrust]

Koufos, Asik and Mozgov are sensible targets, but Memphis would never trade us Koufos.

Dont think Pels would give us Asik or Nuggs give us Mosgov

Sensible targets, but out of our reach right now

[cdubbz]

How is Iguodalas deal massive? Its declining down the past two seasons. Not as big a deal as a lot of you guys want to make it.

I still think he does intangible things that Lee doesn't.

I'm OK with trading either of them if the right deal comes along but there should be no panic. I'm down for a smaller deal that brings us Brandan Wright.

lol everytime someone suggest a trade with iGLUEdola or Lee it's panic.

[Bball0000]

The question is which move is riskier -- trading any rotation players vs the potential of both Bogut and Ezeli being injured in the playoffs (which was the case last playoff series vs Clippers). Idk I think that is something inherently bad karma for the team mentality when you trade away any rotation player when you have the best record in the NBA. Just sends a contradictig message to everyone about what the real goal is.

[Mylie10]

How is Iguodalas deal massive? Its declining down the past two seasons. Not as big a deal as a lot of you guys want to make it.

I still think he does intangible things that Lee doesn't.

I'm OK with trading either of them if the right deal comes along but there should be no panic. I'm down for a smaller deal that brings us Brandan Wright.

lol everytime someone suggest a trade with iGLUEdola or Lee it's panic.

25-5.......and chemistry is fragile.