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Post#141 » by parsnips33 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:32 am

Jesus Christ F this season lol
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Post#142 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:33 am

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TB wrote:Wow. My question is if we can tweak the trade based on this.... I mean I prefer GP, but would take Bey over Wiseman if it came down to it.

Also wonder if this was a separate trade or a 4-team trade. If 4-team trade may need everyone to agree to different terms. If the ATL/DET/GSW part is a separate trade, we may get stuck with the 2nds and not Bey nor Wiseman. LOL

Don't forget Knox...

This sort of thing confuses me. He played a bunch of minutes on the 4th, 6th, and 8th. Unless he got injured on the plane, how does this suddenly become him being benched for 3 months? Is the idea that he shouldn't have been playing on the 8th?
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Post#143 » by Onus » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:33 am

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TB wrote:Wow. My question is if we can tweak the trade based on this.... I mean I prefer GP, but would take Bey over Wiseman if it came down to it.

Also wonder if this was a separate trade or a 4-team trade. If 4-team trade may need everyone to agree to different terms. If the ATL/DET/GSW part is a separate trade, we may get stuck with the 2nds and not Bey nor Wiseman. LOL

It’s a 4 team trade so it would rescind all of it
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Post#144 » by parsnips33 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:33 am

Didn't he literally just play against us? Where is this injury coming from?
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Post#145 » by Onus » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:34 am

3 months means he wouldn’t even be available for the start of the playoffs. I don’t see how the warriors go through with this.
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Post#146 » by whatisacenter » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:36 am

is this thread about to be renamed "welcome back JW!!"?
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Post#147 » by Twinkie defense » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:40 am

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azwfan wrote:We need to start blaming the $150m tied up in Steph, Dray, Klay, and Wiggins and not the $40m tied up with the other 10(!) players.

Curry/Klay/Wiggins/Draymond/Looney have the second best +/- in the League amongst five-man units, at +145. Only 5 points under Denver, in 85 fewer minutes. The problem has been the other guys.

Apparently those 5 can only play with each other and not anyone else? Its the $5m guys fault that Klay is not performing without Steph? Lets use some common sense here. Its gotta be the coaches fault or the “core’s” fault. The core is paid too much if they cant cant carry vet min and rookie contract guys to better than a .500 record.

Nah, in fact putting Draymond in with the second unit - instead of keeping him with Steph at all times - has really helped get the second unit together.

And Klay has been balling out - January was his best CAREER month. His game has changed, he doesn't have the lateral speed to lock down on the perimeter any more but his shooting stroke is money and he's been a smart, solid defender of frontcourt players this season.

In the playoffs, with the games more spread out and each game more important, you can shorten the rotation and run those five into the ground. But during the long slog of the regular season we need the other guys to be able to give them some rest and save them some wear.
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Post#148 » by Old_Blue » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:40 am

Onus wrote:3 months means he wouldn’t even be available for the start of the playoffs. I don’t see how the warriors go through with this.


It would be a really terrible look for the team. A former #2 overall pick swapped for an injured player who can't even contribute towards a playoff run. Other than for salary cap reasons, there's no way to justify that.
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Post#149 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:43 am

Warriors just went from a generally soft reactive defense to an attacking agressive defense.

Still too small but an Ibaka signing might get them perfectly set for the playoffs.
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Post#150 » by Hoopstar23 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:43 am

Portland medical staff is probably going to be investigated
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Post#151 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:46 am

Yeah, this could be very messy.
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Post#152 » by Old_Blue » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:48 am

This fiasco came 8 days too late... :D

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Post#153 » by azwfan » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:48 am

Man, wonder if we keep Wiseman, keep Knox and the 2nds, or keep Bey and Knox. Another possibility is we keep GP2 and send less than 5 2nds while keeping the rest.
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Post#154 » by Chupchup » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:48 am

parsnips33 wrote:Didn't he literally just play against us? Where is this injury coming from?


https://sports.yahoo.com/warriors-reunion-with-gary-payton-ii-reportedly-in-jeopardy-after-blazers-g-fails-physical-001257469.html

"However, Charania reports that Payton had been receiving pain-killing Toradol shots as the Blazers' training staff pushed him to play through the pain, something the Warriors were not told during the negotiation process. If true, you can see why the Warriors might want to wash their hands of the deal."
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Post#155 » by Onus » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:49 am

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Onus wrote:3 months means he wouldn’t even be available for the start of the playoffs. I don’t see how the warriors go through with this.


It would be a really terrible look for the team. A former #2 overall pick swapped for an injured player who can't even contribute towards a playoff run. Other than for salary cap reasons, there's no way to justify that.

Yea super unfortunate. At least they could say it was for depth but not even being able to suit up
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Post#156 » by Old_Blue » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:50 am

Is Wiseman suited up for tonight's Detroit game?
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Post#157 » by Old_Blue » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:52 am

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parsnips33 wrote:Didn't he literally just play against us? Where is this injury coming from?


https://sports.yahoo.com/warriors-reunion-with-gary-payton-ii-reportedly-in-jeopardy-after-blazers-g-fails-physical-001257469.html

"However, Charania reports that Payton had been receiving pain-killing Toradol shots as the Blazers' training staff pushed him to play through the pain, something the Warriors were not told during the negotiation process. If true, you can see why the Warriors might want to wash their hands of the deal."


That's horrible. The Dubs should be awarded a 2nd round pick from Portland as compensation for that tomfoolery. Alternatively, Portland should be forced to forfeit a pick.
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Post#158 » by Onus » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:52 am

Old_Blue wrote:Is Wiseman suited up for tonight's Detroit game?

He was held out
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Post#159 » by donkeylips » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:52 am

azwfan wrote:Man, wonder if we keep Wiseman, keep Knox and the 2nds, or keep Bey and Knox. Another possibility is we keep GP2 and send less than 5 2nds while keeping the rest.


can the trade even be adjusted? isnt it either the trade is cancelled or pushed to go through as is
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Post#160 » by azwfan » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:53 am

Old_Blue wrote:Is Wiseman suited up for tonight's Detroit game?

That poor dude was finally gonna be able to play… and WHAM, yanked from him again!
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