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Post#141 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:32 pm

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If jk can learn to play like Jimmy, he’d be really good. Jk having someone to model his game after and see that it gets paid will do wonders for him. He’s doing a great job this season / preseason


The "he's very smart" and "he's willing to do whatever the team needs to win" stand out. Jimmy didn't have to mention those specific points so it's encouraging that that's where he went in the presser.
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Post#142 » by DaHef » Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:57 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Ripping Curry's arm out of its socket is NOT a basketball move.

Trying to end our stars season should have been a flagrant 2 ejection. What a bunch of BS.
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Post#143 » by DaHef » Wed Oct 22, 2025 6:02 pm

marthafokker wrote:Kerr finally got Podz arse down. GP2 did so much better.

So what does it say about the "Franchise"?

Trade bait?
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Post#144 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 6:21 pm

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marthafokker wrote:Kerr finally got Podz arse down. GP2 did so much better.

So what does it say about the "Franchise"?

Trade bait?


I thought GP2 was downright bad today and podz had a solid floor game, on offense, that is. 33 mins and a +13 with only 7 shot attempts.
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Post#145 » by TB » Wed Oct 22, 2025 6:25 pm

Some things that stood out to me:

- Liked that all non-steph minutes had Podz/Jimmy paired. Kept Podz in a glue-guy role while also allowed us to go PG by committee the entire game.

- The offense Jimmy/Kuminga/Buddy provided is exactly what this era Steph needs. It isn’t 2016 where Steph is dropping 30+ every game, so people need to step up and utilize the space he provides. And when he sits, Jimmy goes to work slowing things down. It won’t always be Kuminga and Buddy, but we have other guys on the roster that can fill that role on any given night as well. No surprise, but I think we will struggle when either Steph/Jimmy are out for games.

- Dray is still one of the better centers in the league. It might actually be his best position at this point of his career. I’d even argue Jimmy is one of the best power forwards in the league. We also have alot of guards that can play bigger than they are. My point: embrace smallball. We have the center depth to eat minutes effectively and play really well with traditional lineups, but i’d expect lineups with Jimmy/Dray at the 4/5 to have a ton of success this year. The key is not having to rely on them all of the time with players like Horford/Post and even Trayce when needed.

- Interesting to see the way different players go about “cheating the game”. Smart flops nonstop while also trying to injure players… totally unacceptable. Luka and Reaves and Jimmy flail every time they attack, but the way Luka complains about it to refs is so annoying. Reaves complains a bit but whats annoying about him is how his game relies on getting calls. Jimmy is the least annoying because he’s the rare flopper that surprisingly doesn’t argue with refs.

- Shooting is everything. We won this game at the 3 point line, led by Buddy and Kuminga. But also had others chip in with a big 3 here and there. Won’t always be them, but the great thing is there are a ton of people capable of being on a heater on any night.

- Will be interesting to see how Moody/Melton/Seth alter the rotations… but at the same time, I think it will be very rare that we have everyone healthy and rested for large stretches of games. I’d expect Moody to be a part of the main rotation regardless. Melton will be more of a Horford scenario where saving his health for the whole season is priority one. Seth will have days he doesn’t play, but used when we need shooting or ball handling help.

Great start to the season, and hopefully can get 2+ wins in this ridiculous early season B2B B2B’s.
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Post#146 » by GS Warriors 1 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 6:31 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:This is such BS we're missing the entire first quarter of Warriors-Lakers for friggin Oklahoma vs. Texas.


A lot of people in the Bay and LA missed a quarter and a half. It's really not that hard, just have the local markets of the next game make the switch at tip-off. The NFL does it with FOX/CBS.
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Post#147 » by kuly1990 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 6:33 pm

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If jk can learn to play like Jimmy, he’d be really good. Jk having someone to model his game after and see that it gets paid will do wonders for him. He’s doing a great job this season / preseason

So if he could only play like one of smarters players in the game? If he could he would, he just don't have that what Jimmy has
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Post#148 » by East Bay Sports » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:17 pm

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Twinkie defense wrote:Warriors looked fresher in the 4th.

Luka wore down and nobody else but Reaves (and Ayton for stretches, lol) had any chance to get into the game offensively. Under appreciated flaw of a superstar centric offense if they aren't diligent about keeping teammates heads in it.

Ayton - 35 minutes, 10 points, 6 rebounds, 1 blk, 4 TO against a mostly small team.

Yea he was awful I couldn't believe they were trying to feed him. Reality going to set in quick for them in relation to what he is bringing to the table.
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Post#149 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:26 pm

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Twinkie defense wrote:This is such BS we're missing the entire first quarter of Warriors-Lakers for friggin Oklahoma vs. Texas.


A lot of people in the Bay and LA missed a quarter and a half. It's really not that hard, just have the local markets of the next game make the switch at tip-off. The NFL does it with FOX/CBS.



I have Peacock and they had both game streams available. The Houston-OKC game was in OT or double OT and the Warriors game was available as a separate stream. I started watching when it was 2-0 Lakers.

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Post#150 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:28 pm

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East Bay Sports wrote:Luka wore down and nobody else but Reaves (and Ayton for stretches, lol) had any chance to get into the game offensively. Under appreciated flaw of a superstar centric offense if they aren't diligent about keeping teammates heads in it.

Ayton - 35 minutes, 10 points, 6 rebounds, 1 blk, 4 TO against a mostly small team.

Yea he was awful I couldn't believe they were trying to feed him. Reality going to set in quick for them in relation to what he is bringing to the table.


Over/under on when Reddick assaults Ayton on camera? I'd say Jan 1 and take the under.
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Post#151 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:30 pm

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East Bay Sports wrote:Luka wore down and nobody else but Reaves (and Ayton for stretches, lol) had any chance to get into the game offensively. Under appreciated flaw of a superstar centric offense if they aren't diligent about keeping teammates heads in it.

Ayton - 35 minutes, 10 points, 6 rebounds, 1 blk, 4 TO against a mostly small team.

Yea he was awful I couldn't believe they were trying to feed him. Reality going to set in quick for them in relation to what he is bringing to the table.


Luka went to the hole a lot. For one thing, the Warriors defenders weren't doing a good job of keeping him from getting into the lane often letting him dribble down the right side of the lane.

Draymond usually stayed with Ayton so Luka didn't try any lobs to Ayton. He got one late in the game to Hayes. But Dray would double to help cut him off from getting all the way to the lane. So he got a lot of favorable calls which put him on the line or he pivoted and hit many turnaround jumpers.

But the defensive strategy was to let Luka get his but make him work and stay home on the other players, though they did get some wide open looks from 3 yet only shot 25%.
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Post#152 » by East Bay Sports » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:31 pm

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AirP. wrote:Ayton - 35 minutes, 10 points, 6 rebounds, 1 blk, 4 TO against a mostly small team.

Yea he was awful I couldn't believe they were trying to feed him. Reality going to set in quick for them in relation to what he is bringing to the table.


Luka went to the hole a lot. For one thing, the Warriors defenders weren't doing a good job of keeping him from getting into the lane often letting him dribble down the right side of the lane.

Draymond usually stayed with Ayton so Luka didn't try any lobs to Ayton. He got one late in the game to Hayes. But Dray would double to help cut him off from getting all the way to the lane. So he got a lot of favorable calls which put him on the line or he pivoted and hit many turnaround jumpers.

But the defensive strategy was to let Luka get his but make him work and stay home on the other players, though they did get some wide open looks from 3 yet only shot 25%.

It honestly felt like a conscious decision to just let Luka feast on Kuminga. Maybe it kept others from getting involved, wore Luka down, gave Kuminga experience at the POA. He didn't look good at all but it was a job you aren't going to win at. Just have to try your best.
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Post#153 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:54 pm

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East Bay Sports wrote:Yea he was awful I couldn't believe they were trying to feed him. Reality going to set in quick for them in relation to what he is bringing to the table.


Luka went to the hole a lot. For one thing, the Warriors defenders weren't doing a good job of keeping him from getting into the lane often letting him dribble down the right side of the lane.

Draymond usually stayed with Ayton so Luka didn't try any lobs to Ayton. He got one late in the game to Hayes. But Dray would double to help cut him off from getting all the way to the lane. So he got a lot of favorable calls which put him on the line or he pivoted and hit many turnaround jumpers.

But the defensive strategy was to let Luka get his but make him work and stay home on the other players, though they did get some wide open looks from 3 yet only shot 25%.

It honestly felt like a conscious decision to just let Luka feast on Kuminga. Maybe it kept others from getting involved, wore Luka down, gave Kuminga experience at the POA. He didn't look good at all but it was a job you aren't going to win at. Just have to try your best.


I think JK did a fine job on Luca. JK made him work, got called for a few touch fouls, and Luca made a bunch of ridiculous shots near the paint, especially after the whistle. Some players are just unfazed by the defense and Luca is near the top of that list.
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Post#154 » by East Bay Sports » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:55 pm

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Luka went to the hole a lot. For one thing, the Warriors defenders weren't doing a good job of keeping him from getting into the lane often letting him dribble down the right side of the lane.

Draymond usually stayed with Ayton so Luka didn't try any lobs to Ayton. He got one late in the game to Hayes. But Dray would double to help cut him off from getting all the way to the lane. So he got a lot of favorable calls which put him on the line or he pivoted and hit many turnaround jumpers.

But the defensive strategy was to let Luka get his but make him work and stay home on the other players, though they did get some wide open looks from 3 yet only shot 25%.

It honestly felt like a conscious decision to just let Luka feast on Kuminga. Maybe it kept others from getting involved, wore Luka down, gave Kuminga experience at the POA. He didn't look good at all but it was a job you aren't going to win at. Just have to try your best.


I think JK did a fine job on Luca. JK made him work, got called for a few touch fouls, and Luca made a bunch of ridiculous shots near the paint, especially after the whistle. Some players are just unfazed by the defense and Luca is near the top of that list.


He did about as well as he is capable of. I've never bought into the notion that he just needs to try harder to be a great defender. He has limitations on that end.
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Post#155 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:59 pm

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East Bay Sports wrote:It honestly felt like a conscious decision to just let Luka feast on Kuminga. Maybe it kept others from getting involved, wore Luka down, gave Kuminga experience at the POA. He didn't look good at all but it was a job you aren't going to win at. Just have to try your best.


I think JK did a fine job on Luca. JK made him work, got called for a few touch fouls, and Luca made a bunch of ridiculous shots near the paint, especially after the whistle. Some players are just unfazed by the defense and Luca is near the top of that list.


He did about as well as he is capable of. I've never bought into the notion that he just needs to try harder to be a great defender. He has limitations on that end.


Sure. That said, against the league's bigger ball handlers, I like JK as our option. He has done very well in the past defending players like Tatum, Ball, Shai, & Luka.
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Post#156 » by marthafokker » Wed Oct 22, 2025 8:11 pm

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marthafokker wrote:Kerr finally got Podz arse down. GP2 did so much better.

So what does it say about the "Franchise"?

Trade bait?


I thought GP2 was downright bad today and podz had a solid floor game, on offense, that is. 33 mins and a +13 with only 7 shot attempts.


Stat hunting, sure he looks good.

The 2 worst players last night were GP2 and Podz.

Podz has most his minutes with either Curry and Butler... or both. His +/- better not suck with Curry and Butler cooking.

In the late 4th. Kerr brought back both Butler and Podz to stop a late LAL run... only to see Podz suck. So bad that Kerr had no choice but to bench his favorite pet. To put in his other pet that sucked too. And GP2 didn't suck to everyone's surprise.
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Post#157 » by TB » Wed Oct 22, 2025 8:17 pm

A big thing is being able to not require early doubles and instead play straight up and force into regular help rotations that don’t screw up your ability to close out on spot up shooters. Kuminga picked him up early and forced him to use energy every possession driving into help. Sure, Luka made everything inside, but he also had like a 40% usage and was 2/10 from 3 without totally living at the FT line. Overall, job done by Kuminga on him.
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Post#158 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 8:27 pm

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DaHef wrote:Trade bait?


I thought GP2 was downright bad today and podz had a solid floor game, on offense, that is. 33 mins and a +13 with only 7 shot attempts.


Stat hunting, sure he looks good.

The 2 worst players last night were GP2 and Podz.

Podz has most his minutes with either Curry and Butler... or both. His +/- better not suck with Curry and Butler cooking.

In the late 4th. Kerr brought back both Butler and Podz to stop a late LAL run... only to see Podz suck. So bad that Kerr had no choice but to bench his favorite pet. To put in his other pet that sucked too. And GP2 didn't suck to everyone's surprise.


those should have been moody minutes and maybe by Thu, they will be.
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Post#159 » by AirP. » Wed Oct 22, 2025 8:29 pm

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If jk can learn to play like Jimmy, he’d be really good. Jk having someone to model his game after and see that it gets paid will do wonders for him. He’s doing a great job this season / preseason

So if he could only play like one of smarters players in the game? If he could he would, he just don't have that what Jimmy has


You can be smart but ignorant of a subject. Butler mentions watching film with Kuminga, it sounds like they're doing it by themselves and I'd have to believe Butler is indicating Kuminga is extracting a lot of information from the film he may not knew to do before which can help him get better. You may think this is odd, but it's quite possible with Kuminga not going to college by going straight to the Ignite team and then NBA, Kuminga may have never been properly taught how to get better by studying film/video. When I watch Kuminga keep trying to attack lanes where it's really not really open, I wonder how can someone really study their own film and not fix that over time? This first game he played much better in the offense than anything I saw last 1/2 season. After the game, Kerr talking about Kumigna taking a bad shot, knowing it was a bad shot after he took ownership of it and raised his hand to say he knows he took a bad shot, this is how you earn the trust of your coach, acknowledging you did something bad vs just shrugging it off. You're showing you're learning what's right and wrong in the offense. Kuminga has some bad tendencies, muscle memory and changing how you react is tough to change, but if he's willing to work on them, acknowledge he knows he did something bad I think he can reach his potential in GS.

A lot of red flags I saw with Kuminga last year are decreasing, both in preseason and this first game. For Golden State and for Kuminga, the best thing would be him to continue down this new path, continue to get better and both sides will come out ahead. GS will have a future post Curry and Kuminga may be a top option for a franchise for a long time. He's progressing as a player, too bad it didn't happen in year 2 or 3, probably cost him a lot of money on this short 2nd contract.
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Post#160 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 22, 2025 9:05 pm

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Onus wrote:If jk can learn to play like Jimmy, he’d be really good. Jk having someone to model his game after and see that it gets paid will do wonders for him. He’s doing a great job this season / preseason

So if he could only play like one of smarters players in the game? If he could he would, he just don't have that what Jimmy has


You can be smart but ignorant of a subject. Butler mentions watching film with Kuminga, it sounds like they're doing it by themselves and I'd have to believe Butler is indicating Kuminga is extracting a lot of information from the film he may not knew to do before which can help him get better. You may think this is odd, but it's quite possible with Kuminga not going to college by going straight to the Ignite team and then NBA, Kuminga may have never been properly taught how to get better by studying film/video. When I watch Kuminga keep trying to attack lanes where it's really not really open, I wonder how can someone really study their own film and not fix that over time? This first game he played much better in the offense than anything I saw last 1/2 season. After the game, Kerr talking about Kumigna taking a bad shot, knowing it was a bad shot after he took ownership of it and raised his hand to say he knows he took a bad shot, this is how you earn the trust of your coach, acknowledging you did something bad vs just shrugging it off. You're showing you're learning what's right and wrong in the offense. Kuminga has some bad tendencies, muscle memory and changing how you react is tough to change, but if he's willing to work on them, acknowledge he knows he did something bad I think he can reach his potential in GS.

A lot of red flags I saw with Kuminga last year are decreasing, both in preseason and this first game. For Golden State and for Kuminga, the best thing would be him to continue down this new path, continue to get better and both sides will come out ahead. GS will have a future post Curry and Kuminga may be a top option for a franchise for a long time. He's progressing as a player, too bad it didn't happen in year 2 or 3, probably cost him a lot of money on this short 2nd contract.


The ignite was a disaster and Vicenie did a breakdown of how many people improved or had the draft position improve after the ignite. I don't remember exactly but the tally was incredibly one-sided: most people got hurt, some tremendously, by going to the g league.

There have been multiple things that have happened w/ JK over the last 4 years that have made me seriously question the warriors's player development program. I look at podz not developing a pull up jumper, mm taking 4 years to speed up his shot, and JK not developing as quickly as most. Sure, the minutes/goals on this team are hard for kids under 25 but do they not have coaches dedicated to individual player development??

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