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Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1401 » by Flash Falcon X » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:34 pm

back then, every time kuminga would catch the ball on the perimeter, defenders would sag off of him and leave him there, yet kuminga would still be able to drive to the rim and score.

last night he made 4 threes in a row during the 3rd quarter.

if kuminga develops a reliable 3 point shot, it’s gonna be scary trying to defend him because now you can’t give him space on the perimeter, but if you get too close to him he’ll be able to blow right past you with his athleticism.

the best part is Kuminga’s been showing he’s a willing passer, so he could be the guy that helps break down the defense and makes the first pass that leads to an open man.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1402 » by ILOVEIT » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:22 am

IMO the most impressive move he's made was the right turn baseline hang and fire shot. Klay even called that out in press conference.

And now to get completely reemed by the board - He's got more polished skills than Yannis.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1403 » by michaelm » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:54 am

sonnyhill wrote:It was nice to see Kuminga have another good game, including sinking the 3-pt shots, last night vs the 'baby dinasours.'

Am I being overly critical by noticing and pointing out that, while he had a good game, Kuminga also had zero rebounds? This stat does not bode well for having a "complete game."

We know he can rebound though. That is the theme I believe, how high his ceiling is even by just putting together everything he can already do at age 20.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1404 » by HiRez » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:30 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:IMO the most impressive move he's made was the right turn baseline hang and fire shot. Klay even called that out in press conference.

And now to get completely reemed by the board - He's got more polished skills than Yannis.

Who on the board is “completely reaming” Kuminga? Everyone seems to be somewhere between cautiously optimistic and ecstatic with his progress.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1405 » by B-King » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:45 pm

HiRez wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:IMO the most impressive move he's made was the right turn baseline hang and fire shot. Klay even called that out in press conference.

And now to get completely reemed by the board - He's got more polished skills than Yannis.

Who on the board is “completely reaming” Kuminga? Everyone seems to be somewhere between cautiously optimistic and ecstatic with his progress.


His effort and willingness to work on all aspects of the game is fantastic! I was worried that he might of become the most discontent of our young players with the lack of playing time, but that hasn't been the case.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1406 » by hamncheese » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:30 pm

HiRez wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:IMO the most impressive move he's made was the right turn baseline hang and fire shot. Klay even called that out in press conference.

And now to get completely reemed by the board - He's got more polished skills than Yannis.

Who on the board is “completely reaming” Kuminga? Everyone seems to be somewhere between cautiously optimistic and ecstatic with his progress.

I think you are misunderstanding ILOVEIT. I think he is saying that he (ILOVEIT) will be reamed for saying that Kuminga has more polished skills the Giannis. Kuminga isn't getting reamed for anything.
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Post#1407 » by Big J » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:01 pm

Does anyone still think Franz is going to end up better than Kuminga? JKs ceiling is just so much greater.
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Post#1408 » by whatisacenter » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:24 pm

Big J wrote:Does anyone still think Franz is going to end up better than Kuminga? JKs ceiling is just so much greater.


I can see why people would like Franz but writing off JK, or any raw prospect, early in their career is dumb. Fans have zero patience.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1409 » by HiRez » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:42 am

hamncheese wrote:
HiRez wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:IMO the most impressive move he's made was the right turn baseline hang and fire shot. Klay even called that out in press conference.

And now to get completely reemed by the board - He's got more polished skills than Yannis.

Who on the board is “completely reaming” Kuminga? Everyone seems to be somewhere between cautiously optimistic and ecstatic with his progress.

I think you are misunderstanding ILOVEIT. I think he is saying that he (ILOVEIT) will be reamed for saying that Kuminga has more polished skills the Giannis. Kuminga isn't getting reamed for anything.

I see what you mean now, sorry ILOVEIT.
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Post#1410 » by DevinVassell » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:34 am

Nah, I had Franz at the draft and still take him 10/10.
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Post#1411 » by Flash Falcon X » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:45 am

when there was that report/rumor about Kuminga’s maturity that came out this past offseason, I remember there was a thread on the general board about it and so many posters were already talking about him like he’s a bust LOL.

so funny writing off a 19-year-old who barely got to play because he was on a championship team full of vets and superstars.

I have the thread in my bookmarks which will provide a good laugh 5 years from now when I bump it. :lol:
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1412 » by Zvaart » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:15 am

Flash Falcon X wrote:when there was that report/rumor about Kuminga’s maturity that came out this past offseason, I remember there was a thread on the general board about it and so many posters were already talking about him like he’s a bust LOL.

so funny writing off a 19-year-old who barely got to play because he was on a championship team full of vets and superstars.

I have the thread in my bookmarks which will provide a good laugh 5 years from now when I bump it. :lol:


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Post#1413 » by wco81 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:29 pm

Still doesn’t rebound as well as the team needs him to, if he’s going to play the 4.
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Post#1414 » by HiRez » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:12 pm

wco81 wrote:Still doesn’t rebound as well as the team needs him to, if he’s going to play the 4.

For sure he should get more. However, I have theories that might account for missing out on some.

  • On offense, Kerr has him hanging out on the perimeter most of the time, so at least 1 defender usually has inside position on him there.
  • On both offense and defense, Kerr wants him to be the first guy down the floor, either to prevent transition buckets, or to get easy dunks on downcourt passes (which the Warriors do a lot of). Thus, he can't wait around for rebounds or close towards the rim to get them.
  • This year I've noticed him tapping/deflecting a lot of rebounds to teammates instead of trying to latch on. In general I think this is a great strategy (Loony and Draymond do it a lot) because there's a lot of situations where you can't quite reach the ball well enough to secure it, but you can get fingertips on it and direct it. I'm not sure who gets the credit for the rebound in these situations (maybe it's up to the scorekeeper), but that could take some away where technically he did the right thing by tipping to a teammate and gaining or maintaining possession.*
I think he'll get more in time as he learns to position himself better and learns to prevent opposing players from going over his back or around him. He also needs to clamp down on the ball better, sometimes. But as long as Kerr has him playing that way, I don't think he's going to stack up big rebounding numbers.

* EDIT: I did a little research and apparently tipping a ball does not constitute possession so if Kuminga's doing the tipping, he's not getting credit for those.
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Post#1415 » by wco81 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:25 pm

He has to box out and put his body into it.

Also great rebounders learn to anticipate balls so even guards can get a lot of rebounds because they see long rebounds coming and break on the ball before others.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1416 » by Flash Falcon X » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:01 pm

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wco81 wrote:Still doesn’t rebound as well as the team needs him to, if he’s going to play the 4.

For sure he should get more. However, I have theories that might account for missing out on some.

  • On offense, Kerr has him hanging out on the perimeter most of the time, so at least 1 defender usually has inside position on him there.
  • On both offense and defense, Kerr wants him to be the first guy down the floor, either to prevent transition buckets, or to get easy dunks on downcourt passes (which the Warriors do a lot of). Thus, he can't wait around for rebounds or close towards the rim to get them.
  • This year I've noticed him tapping/deflecting a lot of rebounds to teammates instead of trying to latch on. In general I think this is a great strategy (Loony and Draymond do it a lot) because there's a lot of situations where you can't quite reach the ball well enough to secure it, but you can get fingertips on it and direct it. I'm not sure who gets the credit for the rebound in these situations (maybe it's up to the scorekeeper), but that could take some away where technically he did the right thing by tipping to a teammate and gaining or maintaining possession.
I think he'll get more in time as he learns to position himself better and learns to prevent opposing players from going over his back or around him. He also needs to clamp down on the ball better, sometimes. But as long as Kerr has him playing that way, I don't think he's going to stack up big rebounding numbers.


yeah im not too worried about his rebounding right now. doesn't seem to be the focus at the moment because in all the games where his rebounds are low, it's guys like looney and draymond who got majority of the boards for the game. and the game where kuminga had zero boards, klay had 8... so it looks more like team rebounding as opposed to just one guy gobbling up the boards.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1417 » by shazam_guy » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:34 am

He's young. He's raw. He'll do something stupid eventually and then half the board will be saying, "Get rid of him now! Hurry! Steph's window!"
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1418 » by and1GS » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 am

FWIW he has rebounded when needed. He's gotten the 'clutch' boards late in games and as others noted, he gets them when he's closer to the hoop.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1419 » by e83pw2oa9hl5f » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:01 am

Hey I admit it, I did have concerns when that discussion was going on. He seemed unfocused, and if true or not, I had thought rookie had gone out and bought lambo and was wearing diamonds from his first NBA contract. Comparing that report to PBJ and his e-scooter, I had concerns about Kuminga falling for the trappings of the NBA.

This season I have seen him impact games with some serious force under pressure. So definitely not so worried about him getting caught up in the celebrity and losing focus.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1420 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:55 am

Step by step growth for Kuminga. I guess he won’t be exploding into super-stardom but I still think he has a very good chance of eventually becoming an All-star.

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