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If Cavs let McGee go I'll happily pick him up.

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If Cavs let McGee go I'll happily pick him up.

Pass on McGee. Low BBIQ, poor team defense, will get some lobs and a few blocks. We've got a rookie that can check all those boxes, I'd rather let him get the minutes and experience.

[DaHef]

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If Cavs let McGee go I'll happily pick him up.

So would I. When he was a W his plus/minus was very impressive. He's good for 5 minute spurts..

[Scoots1994]

I want more skilled players, Wiseman's absolute floor is above McGee.

[DAWill1128]

I actually think Looney and his size, length, and ability to slide his feet could do well defending AD and LeBron. I might be the only person that thinks that but I felt like some of the slow centers struggled with AD’s speed and guys like PJ Tucker just got shot over all game. Everyone always puts a smaller guy like Bazemore on LeBron that gets tossed to the ground on every drive, but it’s really the bigger guys like your James Johnson, Kawhi that do a better job.

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I actually think Looney and his size, length, and ability to slide his feet could do well defending AD and LeBron. I might be the only person that thinks that but I felt like some of the slow centers struggled with AD’s speed and guys like PJ Tucker just got shot over all game. Everyone always puts a smaller guy like Bazemore on LeBron that gets tossed to the ground on every drive, but it’s really the bigger guys like your James Johnson, Kawhi that do a better job.

You're not.

[Mylie10]

I love Looneys defense and all he needs is health and stamina. His game is good

[mos_def]

I actually think Looney and his size, length, and ability to slide his feet could do well defending AD and LeBron. I might be the only person that thinks that but I felt like some of the slow centers struggled with AD’s speed and guys like PJ Tucker just got shot over all game. Everyone always puts a smaller guy like Bazemore on LeBron that gets tossed to the ground on every drive, but it’s really the bigger guys like your James Johnson, Kawhi that do a better job.

His feet and length are not the problem. Its his hips and shoulders

[Scoots1994]

Looney's middle name is "if healthy".

[tal57]

1. Oubre couldn't have blocked the trade. He didn't have a no-trade clause (there's only ~5 players or so in the league that do).
2. Ibaka was a free agent, so he could not be acquired via the TPE. (This has been covered in approximately 7,500 threads on this board.) The most money we could have offered him is the taxpayer's MLE, or $5.7M, which probably wouldn't have been enough to get it done.

Oubre can't block a trade but he can make it a problem for the team he's going to.

If Klay was healthy, and Oubre was traded to us, we'd undoubtably have been a title contender. He seems to be a smart guy from what I'm seeing in his interviews, and a smart guy would know that being a key contributor on a title contender is probably going to help his value more than getting 6 more minutes and 5 empty points/game somewhere else.

We're all speculating, but the argument of "he wouldn't want to join a title contender because he might not be the featured guy in a contract year" seems flawed to me. Ginobili did pretty well coming off the bench, and GM's want winners these days, more than they like guys who get points on non-contenders.

Well, than lets not put the carriage before the horse and forget how Oubre would have felt being traded here with the healthy Klay. You think the Warriors management would have initiated the trade costing them 80 mil for a backup wing, when they were concentrating on the bigs first and foremost with healthy Klay? I very, very much doubt that. That trade had only happened when they had to immediately and urgently pivot from Klay's injury, after fully learning of its damage extend.

[ChuckDurn]

Oubre can't block a trade but he can make it a problem for the team he's going to.

If Klay was healthy, and Oubre was traded to us, we'd undoubtably have been a title contender. He seems to be a smart guy from what I'm seeing in his interviews, and a smart guy would know that being a key contributor on a title contender is probably going to help his value more than getting 6 more minutes and 5 empty points/game somewhere else.

We're all speculating, but the argument of "he wouldn't want to join a title contender because he might not be the featured guy in a contract year" seems flawed to me. Ginobili did pretty well coming off the bench, and GM's want winners these days, more than they like guys who get points on non-contenders.

Well, than lets not put the carriage before the horse and forget how Oubre would have felt being traded here with the healthy Klay. You think the Warriors management would have initiated the trade costing them 80 mil for a backup wing, when they were concentrating on the bigs first and foremost with healthy Klay? I very, very much doubt that. That trade had only happened when they had to immediately and urgently pivot from Klay's injury, after fully learning of its damage extend.

Not sure we're going to get much farther than this, but we have absolutely no idea what transactions the Warriors would have made if Klay's injury hadn't happened; you're supposing that they were going after bigs, but I'll note that the 2 "bigs" that they appeared to be interested in (Ibaka and Gasol) couldn't have been acquired via the TPE because they're free agents, and it would have been the ultimate "I'm putting the league on notice" flex to spend on somebody like Oubre to give us what would be pretty undoubtably the strongest wing group in the league (between Klay, Wiggins, and Oubre). And that's exactly the kind of thing Lacob likes doing. (Plus...... being honest, if Klay hadn't been injured and the Warriors traded for Oubre, do you think Gasol WOULDN'T have come here for the MLE, now that you see he took the minimum to go to the Lakers?)

It's all speculation, but diverts from the point of "how would Oubre actually have reacted if forced to play a slightly lesser role on a title contender". Neither of us knows.

[tal57]

If Klay was healthy, and Oubre was traded to us, we'd undoubtably have been a title contender. He seems to be a smart guy from what I'm seeing in his interviews, and a smart guy would know that being a key contributor on a title contender is probably going to help his value more than getting 6 more minutes and 5 empty points/game somewhere else.

We're all speculating, but the argument of "he wouldn't want to join a title contender because he might not be the featured guy in a contract year" seems flawed to me. Ginobili did pretty well coming off the bench, and GM's want winners these days, more than they like guys who get points on non-contenders.

Well, than lets not put the carriage before the horse and forget how Oubre would have felt being traded here with the healthy Klay. You think the Warriors management would have initiated the trade costing them 80 mil for a backup wing, when they were concentrating on the bigs first and foremost with healthy Klay? I very, very much doubt that. That trade had only happened when they had to immediately and urgently pivot from Klay's injury, after fully learning of its damage extend.

Not sure we're going to get much farther than this, but we have absolutely no idea what transactions the Warriors would have made if Klay's injury hadn't happened; you're supposing that they were going after bigs, but I'll note that the 2 "bigs" that they appeared to be interested in (Ibaka and Gasol) couldn't have been acquired via the TPE because they're free agents, and it would have been the ultimate "I'm putting the league on notice" flex to spend on somebody like Oubre to give us what would be pretty undoubtably the strongest wing group in the league (between Klay, Wiggins, and Oubre). And that's exactly the kind of thing Lacob likes doing. (Plus...... being honest, if Klay hadn't been injured and the Warriors traded for Oubre, do you think Gasol WOULDN'T have come here for the MLE, now that you see he took the minimum to go to the Lakers?)

It's all speculation, but diverts from the point of "how would Oubre actually have reacted if forced to play a slightly lesser role on a title contender". Neither of us knows.

Kerr admits Klay's injury 100% triggered Oubre trade.
There you have it, from the horse's mouth.

[Chris Porter's Hair]

Hollow stats, stat padder, blah blah blah, but Sacramento just signed Hassan Whiteside for 1 year at the league minimum. For anything close to that price, I have to think he could have been helpful. Huh.

[Warriors Analyst]

Hollow stats, stat padder, blah blah blah, but Sacramento just signed Hassan Whiteside for 1 year at the league minimum. For anything close to that price, I have to think he could have been helpful. Huh.

The issue with Whiteside is the person himself. Whiteside would want to start and would probably take offense at not closing games. He wouldn’t be a good vet presence for Wiseman and probably would struggle to understand why Looney or Chriss play over him.

[Mylie10]

Whiteside doesn’t come off as the helpful vet to me.

If we want a big man coach, go get Bogut

[Chris Porter's Hair]

Hollow stats, stat padder, blah blah blah, but Sacramento just signed Hassan Whiteside for 1 year at the league minimum. For anything close to that price, I have to think he could have been helpful. Huh.

The issue with Whiteside is the person himself. Whiteside would want to start and would probably take offense at not closing games. He wouldn’t be a good vet presence for Wiseman and probably would struggle to understand why Looney or Chriss play over him.

I honestly might struggle to understand that as well. Look, I'm glad that Looney and Chriss should be able to stay on an NBA roster and play some minutes. Chriss still has room for unproven upside. But I think it is entirely possible, maybe even probable, that Whiteside is a better player than either of them. And if he had a bad attitude, and was getting paid a minimum contract, then we'd just boot him.

[Mylie10]

Kerr and Myers have both spoke of high character guys to try and add. You can’t do that 100%, hit that could be a reason many teams have driven past his house

[donkeylips]

Lakers, clippers, nets, rockets and jazz are listed as interested in Glenn Robinson iii. I know he can’t shoot but mkg is still there.

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[Scoots1994]

Kerr and Myers have both spoke of high character guys to try and add. You can’t do that 100%, hit that could be a reason many teams have driven past his house

Supposedly Whiteside and Howards each had exactly one team express interest. Bad character guys are getting valued correctly by NBA teams finally.