2020 Draft Thread

[EvanZ]

Go watch Maccabi vs Real Madrid from January. Real Madrid features Anthony Randolph and a bunch of other high level NCAA or former NBA players.

[azwfan]

Deni looking like a pretty solid top 5 prospect.

[DAWill1128]

Deni would be a good choice, imo it just depends on where we land. I could see Deni being a good point forward for a second unit, is Chandler Parsons a comparable player? Chandler was pretty good at Florida and I think Deni would have been entertaining at any college program in the United States. We would just need guys like Lee, Poole, Mulder, Bowman to defend and hit shots and for Paschall to be a go to option in iso and end of the clock situations. Defensively I guess Deni just takes the other teams spot up shooter.

[ShayDee]

I think he is the pick if we at 4 or 5 and Edwards and Wiseman are off the board. But I have this strange feeling our FO don't want to pick Wiseman if he falls on our laps

[wco81]

If a top 5 pick is just a second unit player, that's aiming low isn't it?

Even if Wiseman is no better than Damian Jones catching lobs, not rebounding enough and a liability on switches to a perimeter player, he'd get at least 20 minutes to start halves wit the first unit?

Second unit you may want someone instant offense and that role may be better filled by a vet.

[DAWill1128]

If a top 5 pick is just a second unit player, that's aiming low isn't it?

Even if Wiseman is no better than Damian Jones catching lobs, not rebounding enough and a liability on switches to a perimeter player, he'd get at least 20 minutes to start halves wit the first unit?

Second unit you may want someone instant offense and that role may be better filled by a vet.

That's true, but it's the case with anyone that is not a center. I am a Wiseman 1st to plug a role and Edwards 2nd as an instant offense off the bench guy.

Wiseman seems like the obvious pick for us, if they don't take him it may mean they know the teams bread and butter is Draymond at center the last six minutes of games. May also mean they want to take a shot at a vet like Gasol, Ibaka, or Baynes who all bring different tools that Wiseman doesn't have.

They may value wings more, Igoudola always finished games and Livingston did as well a lot of the time. Which brings up the question if you fall in the draft do you swap picks with the Bulls and take Satoransky who fills that steady big guard role and draft another wing or even Okongwu.

I can see Paschall taking a lot of minutes to preserve Draymond the way we tried to keep Igoudola fresher. Also because I think in the regular season the Splash Brothers with Wiggins and Paschall could overwhelm most teams defenses during the regular season.

[ShayDee]

If a top 5 pick is just a second unit player, that's aiming low isn't it?

Even if Wiseman is no better than Damian Jones catching lobs, not rebounding enough and a liability on switches to a perimeter player, he'd get at least 20 minutes to start halves wit the first unit?

Second unit you may want someone instant offense and that role may be better filled by a vet.

That's true, but it's the case with anyone that is not a center. I am a Wiseman 1st to plug a role and Edwards 2nd as an instant offense off the bench guy.

Wiseman seems like the obvious pick for us, if they don't take him it may mean they know the teams bread and butter is Draymond at center the last six minutes of games. May also mean they want to take a shot at a vet like Gasol, Ibaka, or Baynes who all bring different tools that Wiseman doesn't have.

They may value wings more, Igoudola always finished games and Livingston did as well a lot of the time. Which brings up the question if you fall in the draft do you swap picks with the Bulls and take Satoransky who fills that steady big guard role and draft another wing or even Okongwu.

I can see Paschall taking a lot of minutes to preserve Draymond the way we tried to keep Igoudola fresher. Also because I think in the regular season the Splash Brothers with Wiggins and Paschall could overwhelm most teams defenses during the regular season.

Na I don't think Satoransky is worth a pick swap, as well as many players this offseason. He has two years left on his contract and the last year is non guaranteed so that means we would be pick swapping for a rental. If we are trading down it should only be for a longer term deal as well as a future pick and a more impactful player or someone with alot of potential like Bamba/Lauri/Zach Collins. And I think Msrcus Smart is the only back up PG I'll feel ok trading down for, but the Boston picks are so low I don't think it's worth

[Worst_to_First]

I think he is the pick if we at 4 or 5 and Edwards and Wiseman are off the board. But I have this strange feeling our FO don't want to pick Wiseman if he falls on our laps

Where would you guys rank RJ Barrett in this so-called weak draft? I think he is one guy that would thrive with shooters around him. Our FO did him dirty by signing Randle and Elf, which basically made things very difficult for him during his rookie year with the lack of spacing that resulted.

Even if we luck out with the #1 pick I don’t see LaMelo’s and RJ’s games blending well. RJ would thrive more in a system that shares the ball and RJ has solid playmaking skills as well.

Just wondering if you guys would be willing to trade your 2020 first round pick for RJ or at what number (1-5)?

[clyde21]

pretty much Hampton/Onyeka or bust for me if we don't trade down

i'd love a trade down to say the NOP pick for NAW and a future 1st for example

[GQ Hot Dog]

I think he is the pick if we at 4 or 5 and Edwards and Wiseman are off the board. But I have this strange feeling our FO don't want to pick Wiseman if he falls on our laps

Where would you guys rank RJ Barrett in this so-called weak draft? I think he is one guy that would thrive with shooters around him. Our FO did him dirty by signing Randle and Elf, which basically made things very difficult for him during his rookie year with the lack of spacing that resulted.

Even if we luck out with the #1 pick I don’t see LaMelo’s and RJ’s games blending well. RJ would thrive more in a system that shares the ball and RJ has solid playmaking skills as well.

Just wondering if you guys would be willing to trade your 2020 first round pick for RJ or at what number (1-5)?

I would be inclined to trade our first for RJ and your late 1st.

[Scoots1994]

pretty much Hampton/Onyeka or bust for me if we don't trade down

i'd love a trade down to say the NOP pick for NAW and a future 1st for example

I'm no expert on him, but most of what I've seen on Hampton is that he has elite potential but has underperformed expectations so far. Why do you have him at the top of your list?

[clyde21]

pretty much Hampton/Onyeka or bust for me if we don't trade down

i'd love a trade down to say the NOP pick for NAW and a future 1st for example

I'm no expert on him, but most of what I've seen on Hampton is that he has elite potential but has underperformed expectations so far. Why do you have him at the top of your list?

really good combo guard potential, can come off the bench and run offense for us or slash off-ball why Dray/Steph are running the team, good off-ball potential and but can also create, can work in the mid range area, high ceiling

[cdubbz]

RJ Hampton is interesting for sure. A lottery sleeper. He’s well known talent but didn’t perform too well overseas. May be a guy just built for the NBA with his combo guard skills and size.

[clyde21]

i mean, not like Lamelo played well oversees either, not sure why people hold this against RJ but not Lamelo

[Little Digger]

Cam Reddish all day > RJ..I love the kid. .Much purer shot and from what I saw of his rookie season, he’s going to be an all-NBA versatile defender

[ShayDee]

Against 2nd best team in Israel league. Only went 1/4 from 3, no free throws

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[wco81]

I wonder if a lot of the higher-ceiling players would be happy getting enough touches or shot attempts here.

Or playing a backup role.

They have 4-5 years on their rookie deals to try to get themselves a max second contract. They won't get that if they play a secondary role, especially scoring-wise.

Trying to think of some high draft choices who've had to settle for secondary roles. Some of them were busts.

But are there going to be guys who try to chuck their way into filling up the scoreboard, when there are very high efficiency shooters on the team?

[ShayDee]

I wonder if a lot of the higher-ceiling players would be happy getting enough touches or shot attempts here.

Or playing a backup role.

They have 4-5 years on their rookie deals to try to get themselves a max second contract. They won't get that if they play a secondary role, especially scoring-wise.

Trying to think of some high draft choices who've had to settle for secondary roles. Some of them were busts.

But are there going to be guys who try to chuck their way into filling up the scoreboard, when there are very high efficiency shooters on the team?

That's the major disadvantage with our team and what I fear the most. The players that wouldn't really care about their touches, the ones that don't have that much of a scoring repertoire like Okoro, Okongwu, Haliburton but then we have the others that might not have much impact without the ball or will have their development stifled if they get only a few touches/minutes like Ball, Edwards, Deni, Wiseman.

Obviously one group of players is different than the other and I think the latter has way more potential and is the group we should target if we get the chance (apart from Ball). But then again we have the same problem with bringing in Free agents, they want touches and to put up stats because they want a bigger contract than what the warriors can offer. Some of our TPE targets I fear would also have this issue (like Oubre).

I think for now our best case scenario would be to get at least 2 NBA ready rookies that have an elite skill that would translate to playoff basketball and also could potentially replace starters on our team down the line and would also be willing to accept a limited role. If we end up with Edwards/Wiseman/Deni, we should see if we can shop them and trade down for additional assets and future picks and pick who we actually want around the low lottery or middle of the draft or just keep the top 5 pick and preach our system to them and hope they develop.

And if we are drafting any player, they must be able to score the ball in some way that doesn't require only athleticism and must have high enough IQ. We can't be ending up with guys like Bell, Evans, McCaw, DJ anymore and be relying on Curry to produce all the points for this team

[xdrta+]

And if we are drafting any player, they must be able to score the ball in some what that doesn't require only athleticism and must have high enough IQ. We can't be ending up with guys like Bell, Evans, McCaw, DJ anymore and be relying on Curry to produce all the points for this team

Well, the highest draft pick of those four guys was Evans at #28, so I would hope someone in the top 5, or whoever we trade that pick for, would be a whole lot better.

[ShayDee]

And if we are drafting any player, they must be able to score the ball in some what that doesn't require only athleticism and must have high enough IQ. We can't be ending up with guys like Bell, Evans, McCaw, DJ anymore and be relying on Curry to produce all the points for this team

Well, the highest draft pick of those four guys was Evans at #28, so I would hope someone in the top 5, or whoever we trade that pick for, would be a whole lot better.

I mean yea granted we have been picking bottom of 1st round/2nd round these passed few years it's kind of tough to find guys that would stick and the FO seems to be having problems evaluating these prospects. One noticeable thing is that whoever they have been drafting is someone tailored towards seemingly high enough IQ and defense and having very little offense. The only players of that mold that we have somewhat managed to retain are Draymond and Looney and both of them have not managed to develop much on the offensive side after all these years.

How many of these archetype of players can we afford to have on a 15 man roster when during the playoffs/regular season teams leave them open all the time creating very little space for Curry/Klay. From 2009 up until now when we picked in the lottery, we took Curry, Klay, Ekpe and Barnes. The least offensively versatile player out of those picks is either not getting minutes/out of the league.

I believe if the top prospects(Edwards/Wiseman/Deni imo) would have a problem with limited touches or minutes that would hurt their chances of reaching their ceiling and we elect to trade down for a high floor lower ceiling player (Because I doubt the FO want any more projects than we already have), that player better be able to create/provide some sort of high IQ/Efficient offense that would benefit our main players. i.e just find a way to pick the best shooters that would fit in our system(Bey, Vassel, Nesmith, Bane)