Giannis

Little Digger · Post #161 » by **Little Digger** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:26 pm

Hardly anything’s changed..Superstars want LA for the attention and endorsements..Kobe, Shaq, Lebron etc etc..The salary is only a small part of it..Kareem even said on the Charlie Rose show back in the 90’s, acting was the reason he left for Hollywood..

Milwaukee will always be Milwaukee..superstars are not going to stick around ..

ILOVEIT · Post #162 » by **ILOVEIT** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:41 am

The Maestro wrote:
ShayDee wrote:
The Maestro wrote:
Warriors have zero cap room. No chance at AD.

The same way we get Giannis can be the same way we get AD

Not at all. Davis is a free agent and the Warriors can’t sign and trade.

Then how the hell did the Warriors trade DLO for Wiggins?
Are you guys making a distinction between two existing contracts being traded vs a FA that re-signs and THEN is traded for matching salary?

Flash Falcon X · Post #163 » by **Flash Falcon X** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:15 am

Philly is looking like a mess, too. I wonder if one of Simmons/Embiid would be available this offseason, if Giannis ends up signing an extension with Milwaukee.

Scoots1994 · Post #164 » by **Scoots1994** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:26 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
The Maestro wrote:
ShayDee wrote:
The same way we get Giannis can be the same way we get AD

Not at all. Davis is a free agent and the Warriors can’t sign and trade.

Then how the hell did the Warriors trade DLO for Wiggins?
Are you guys making a distinction between two existing contracts being traded vs a FA that re-signs and THEN is traded for matching salary?

IF AD opts in on his last year on his contract then the Lakers can trade him to the Warriors. If he signs an extension with the Lakers then the Warriors can't take him in without being hard capped again, and they'd have to throw in several players to make up the money and then they would be unlikely to put a full team on the court.

Post #165 » by **Chris Porter's Hair** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:37 am

Scoots1994 wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:
The Maestro wrote:
Not at all. Davis is a free agent and the Warriors can’t sign and trade.

Then how the hell did the Warriors trade DLO for Wiggins?
Are you guys making a distinction between two existing contracts being traded vs a FA that re-signs and THEN is traded for matching salary?

IF AD opts in on his last year on his contract then the Lakers can trade him to the Warriors. If he signs an extension with the Lakers then the Warriors can't take him in without being hard capped again, and they'd have to throw in several players to make up the money and then they would be unlikely to put a full team on the court.

So specifically, I think the answer is that yes, people are making a distinction between a trade vs. a sign-and-trade because there *is* a distinction between the two.

Lucky 24 · Post #166 » by **Lucky 24** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:10 am

I would not underestimate Ujiri's extremely close ties with Giannis. His influence in Africa is tremendous and he has been eyeing 2021 for quite some time. International players are more open to playing outside the US so I think it can happen. Also the whole incident of how Ujiri and Lowry were treated inside the Oracle is a bit of black mark on the organization and players do talk. It may not ultimately matter but it definitely does not help with optics.

wco81 · Post #167 » by **wco81** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:50 am

Yeah players do talk.

Kawhi left Toronto despite all the things they were throwing at him.

Why would a top NBA star want to go to a cold place that Kawhi rejected?

Quazza · Post #168 » by **Quazza** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:38 am

LETS GO

Scoots1994 · Post #169 » by **Scoots1994** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:56 pm

Chris Porter's Hair wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:
Then how the hell did the Warriors trade DLO for Wiggins?
Are you guys making a distinction between two existing contracts being traded vs a FA that re-signs and THEN is traded for matching salary?

IF AD opts in on his last year on his contract then the Lakers can trade him to the Warriors. If he signs an extension with the Lakers then the Warriors can't take him in without being hard capped again, and they'd have to throw in several players to make up the money and then they would be unlikely to put a full team on the court.

So specifically, I think the answer is that yes, people are making a distinction between a trade vs. a sign-and-trade because there *is* a distinction between the two.

Yes. A trade and a sign and trade are different under the rules. I don't remember all the rules for when a sign and trade becomes just a trade ... because teams can sign players and later trade them and it's not a "sign and trade", I just don't remember the provisions they have to meet.

Scoots1994 · Post #170 » by **Scoots1994** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:57 pm

Lucky 24 wrote:I would not underestimate Ujiri's extremely close ties with Giannis. His influence in Africa is tremendous and he has been eyeing 2021 for quite some time. International players are more open to playing outside the US so I think it can happen. Also the whole incident of how Ujiri and Lowry were treated inside the Oracle is a bit of black mark on the organization and players do talk. It may not ultimately matter but it definitely does not help with optics.

Of course the Warriors don't play in Oracle anymore...

ahmetmekin · Post #171 » by **ahmetmekin** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:28 am

Bucks look **** and I would not be surprised if they are beaten in the second round.

Lucky 24 · Post #172 » by **Lucky 24** » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:18 am

Interesting look at possible suitors for Giannis

Watch on YouTube

HiRez · Post #173 » by **HiRez** » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:21 am

LOL no way does he go to the Knicks.

Yao4REAL · Post #174 » by **Yao4REAL** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:19 am

Flash Falcon X wrote:What happens if Giannis doesn't sign an extension and becomes a free agent in 2021, but the Warriors end up winning the 2021 championship without him? Does he even consider signing with a team that just won the championship?

He's going to follow KD's step and declare "if you can't beat them, join them."

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #175 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:13 pm

I think we have a better chance at LeBron than AD.

If the Lakers lose they'll want to build for the future and the now, and LeBron isn't getting any younger.

LeBron also wants to win now and the Lakers might not get any better.

Green + Wiggins + 2nd pick

for

LeBron + Kuzma + 2021 pick

Scoots1994 · Post #176 » by **Scoots1994** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:30 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:I think we have a better chance at LeBron than AD.

If the Lakers lose they'll want to build for the future and the now, and LeBron isn't getting any younger.

LeBron also wants to win now and the Lakers might not get any better.

Green + Wiggins + 2nd pick

for

LeBron + Kuzma + 2021 pick

LeBron also wants to own the team.

wco81 · Post #177 » by **wco81** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:53 pm

Do the Lakers even have picks after the AD trade?

Kuzma is a free agent soon isn't he? Wouldn't want to be locked into a long-term contract with him.

I don't know that a 36-year old Lebron, even with the best spacing he's ever had, would be that great.

giannis and 1 · Post #178 » by **giannis and 1** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:00 am

Lucky 24 wrote:I would not underestimate Ujiri's extremely close ties with Giannis. His influence in Africa is tremendous and he has been eyeing 2021 for quite some time. International players are more open to playing outside the US so I think it can happen. Also the whole incident of how Ujiri and Lowry were treated inside the Oracle is a bit of black mark on the organization and players do talk. It may not ultimately matter but it definitely does not help with optics.

You honestly think Giannis is going to leave the Bucks for their biggest rival and team that he lost to twice?

Lucky 24 · Post #179 » by **Lucky 24** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:04 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
Lucky 24 wrote:I would not underestimate Ujiri's extremely close ties with Giannis. His influence in Africa is tremendous and he has been eyeing 2021 for quite some time. International players are more open to playing outside the US so I think it can happen. Also the whole incident of how Ujiri and Lowry were treated inside the Oracle is a bit of black mark on the organization and players do talk. It may not ultimately matter but it definitely does not help with optics.

You honestly think Giannis is going to leave the Bucks for their biggest rival and team that he lost to twice?

Yeah, how could anyone ever consider doing that? :lol:

giannis and 1 · Post #180 » by **giannis and 1** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:24 am

Lucky 24 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
Lucky 24 wrote:I would not underestimate Ujiri's extremely close ties with Giannis. His influence in Africa is tremendous and he has been eyeing 2021 for quite some time. International players are more open to playing outside the US so I think it can happen. Also the whole incident of how Ujiri and Lowry were treated inside the Oracle is a bit of black mark on the organization and players do talk. It may not ultimately matter but it definitely does not help with optics.

You honestly think Giannis is going to leave the Bucks for their biggest rival and team that he lost to twice?

Yeah, how could anyone ever consider doing that?

You must not know much about Giannis. Its one thing to leave if he thinks he's not going to win a championship with the Bucks, its another thing to go to the Raptors.