TB wrote:I feel like the idea of a team being good/bad at developing players is an incredibly overrated topic. Sure, there are coaches/front offices that may treat young players different... but all these teams have the resources for a young player to improve as much as they are capable of doing.
The Warriors didnt "not develop" guys like Jones and Nedovic. They just drafted bad basketball players. Is Poole being developed better or worse than Jacob Evans? No, Poole is just a better player that puts in the work and has the mentality of a player that thinks he should be great.
When Jordan "broke" Kwame, he didn't ruin Kwame's career arc. He was 23 when he got to LA, still plenty of time to figure out what went wrong, and he still just became what he ultimately was always going to be... a big guy without the mentality or work ethic to be anything more than a rotation big body. So maybe he has a slightly better few years early if he gets drafted somewhere that coddles him, but its not like it goes from "jordan broke him" to "wow he's an all star".
Spot on. I hate when its said that X coach or X team can't develop... that literally only applies if the player excels elsewhere. Talent evaluation isn't the same thing. Just like when people railed on Wiseman's bad hands, and then that crew went dead silent as the game started to slow down a bit for him towards the end of his season. Because it was always reflexes, not hands. These aren't subtle differences when you really talk about the game at a deep level
Have we been maxing our late round draft picks? Not maxing, but we're not doing bad IMO. Last 16 picks we drafted ourselves:
2 lotto picks
6 late 1sts
8 2nd rounders
The two lotto picks: Barnes was a hit, in that he was useful and that there wasn't much behind him. Wiseman, despite all the theatrics, is still very much an 'in progress' situation, though its absolutely fair to say its been a disappointing start
Of the 6 late 1sts, 3 were solid rotation players (Ezeli, Poole, Looney). Ezeli unfortunately derailed by injury, but was still useful. Jones, Evans, and Nedovic were whiffs.
Of the 8 2nds, we got one star player (Draymond), several borderline rotation players (Bell, McCaw, Paschall, Nico), one question mark (Jessup), and a couple total nothings (Smiley, Kuzmic)
That's Myers' drafting history. Unless you are 100% behind burying Wiseman already, what entirely unrealistic expectation did you have for a team that's frequently drafting in the 30s or below?