2020 Draft Thread

[ShayDee]

I'm honestly not sure who I like in top 10 apart from Wiseman or Edwards and I'm also steering away from Edwards and moving closer to Wiseman. Maybe Deni? But more I watch this re-start and looking for comparisons I think he might be a mix or Hezonja and Saric with a bit more playmaking, not sure I want that player in top 5.

I like a lot more guys outside of top 10 though, The higher guys are specific to Steph's championship timeline
1st Round:
Higher: Desmond Bane, Saddiq Bey, Nesmith, Vassel
Mid(can contribute but not preferred):Haliburton, Precious, Onyeka, Deni,
Project(Sleepers with Potential): Pat Williams, Jahmi'us Ramsey, Poku, Terry, Oturu

2nd Round:
High: Sam Merril, Malik Fits, Skylar Mays, Trevelin Queen
Mid: John Petty, Tillman, Reed, Tyler Bey, Riller, Ty-Shon Alexander, Nate Darling
Project: Jaden McDeaniels, Reggie Perry, Quickley, Elijah Hughes, Cassius Stanley

[Onus]

Everyone saying you can’t trust writers because they’re throwing darts as well. Well it was a widely known fact we wanted smiley before last draft. I also feel like pascal was predicted as well. Granted Poole was a surprise though.

[Mylie10]

Everyone saying you can’t trust writers because they’re throwing darts as well. Well it was a widely known fact we wanted smiley before last draft. I also feel like pascal was predicted as well. Granted Poole was a surprise though.

Of course we wanted Smiley. We brought him to Cruz and then started developing him. They had future plans involved with him in mind obviously. They had their own coaches teaching him day in and day out. Don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

And you’re right about Poole. Nobody had that one. Juries still out as well.

The Paschall pick was on lots of boards. He’s a proven college player, older, and Jay Wright is a friend to Kerr. There are ties there.

[Mambomuziki]

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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[wco81]

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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Hmm, I would be surprised if Dunleavy has that much influence in the front office.

He just got the job just a year ago?

Did he personally scout players or something? I'm not talking about watching Youtube clips either.

[Mylie10]

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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Ok, what was Dunleavys comment?

[Mylie10]

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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Hmm, I would be surprised if Dunleavy has that much influence in the front office.

He just got the job just a year ago?

Did he personally scout players or something? I'm not talking about watching Youtube clips either.

Dunleavy and a few others attended a lot of college games before things were shut down. He’s a scout, so he’s not just laying back and watching YouTube. Although videos can be helpful. Especially entire game videos.

I believe they made some trips overseas as well. I think they had another overseas trip planned prior to the pandemic shutting things down.

[ILOVEIT]

Not sure of his influence but I agree with his assessment. I hope the Warriors go for big guards, or stretch forwards.
Ideally the Warriors get the number one or two pick....trade that and Wiggins for a all-star type ....then make another deal to get a player in the 8-14 range and get a guy they really like. I wouldn't put it past Myers to already have something set up contingent on where they fall in the lottery.

[ShayDee]

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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What "Re-inventing" should mean in my book is drafting and playing highly skilled, high floor with good potential players(Wiseman falls under this Category imo), no more one-dimensional (non-shooting hustle guys) players. And we should play close to 5 out and try and build a long skilled offensive line-up similar to Denver with very versatile players that can dribble, pass, defend, rebound and SHOOT at least 36% from 3 (Emphasis on shooting). Also the player doesn't necessarily have to be long but at least 6'3 with elite shooting and dribbling

Don't draft any more players under 6'4 unless they are the next Curry. Also, defensive high motor guys would get you Evans/McCaw/Bell while passing up higher skilled players that can actually contribute if the defense still fails. Defense is really hard to project coming out of college but shooting/offensive game almost always translates

[Mylie10]

I think just about everybody agrees with long versatile players and Wiseman is very long and while he’s a center he’s very athletic and has a great skill set to work with, which can make him a versatile big. So long and versatile makes sense, duh

[Mambomuziki]

I heard this from a podcast where Connor and someone else- I think Sam and Andy were discussing the warriors front office and previous drafts. Connor just generalised what Dunleavy had said as it was off the record.
Apparently Dunleavy is very close to Bob and they both worked on EP drafting and DLO trade.

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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Ok, what was Dunleavys comment?

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[Mambomuziki]

I heard this from a podcast where Connor and someone else- I think Sam and Andy were discussing the warriors front office and previous drafts. Connor just generalised what Dunleavy had said as it was off the record.
Apparently Dunleavy is very close to Bob and they both worked on EP drafting and DLO trade.

From what I heard on the Podcast, Dunleavy is not big on drafting bigs. They are more interested in versatile players, lengthy, defensive and high motor players. Even Steve Kerr has mentioned this a couple of times. Beat writers reckon that GSW board is different that other teams. Also gathering from what I have read; Bob and Steve are looking "Re-inventing Warrior's Game".


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Ok, what was Dunleavys comment?

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[Scoots1994]

Its not my big board, its my guess at what GSW’s big board is based on all the reporting Ive seen / heard since like Feb. Like a month or two ago it was pretty widely reported that GSW isnt high on Lamelo or Wiseman. The most Wiseman-positive reporting Ive seen is Ric Bucher’s claim that theyre high on him, which was not seen as credible by others on the beat, and the more recent claim that Wiseman is high on their list as someone theyd like to see in person, which... of course lol. That’s probably true of every team in the lottery. It’d be negligent not to give those kinds of physical tools a close look and consideration

Theres also other reporting that seems to back up the above, like Kerr saying Green will play more center next year and everyone being so high on Chriss, who is made redundant by Wiseman.

One can wave all that away and say its smoke, fake news, etc but then its anyones guess and youre simply projecting your own personal board onto theirs (Im smart and I love Wiseman, and theyre smart so they must love him too).

Personally I like Wiseman in the top 2 alongside Edwards.

Green playing 5 down the stretch and Chriss being on the roster doesn't really rule out Wiseman. They have 48 minutes to fill in that spot, If Chriss gets 20 and Wiseman gets 20 and Green gets 8 you are there. The reality is that if Wiseman is ready for a McGee type role then that's less than 15 minutes for him, and the other 20-35 minutes per game during the regular season would go to a combination of Chriss, Looney, and Green. They want to keep Green and Looney's minutes down in the regular seaosn and to do so they need other big talent on the roster.

I meant more in terms of role than minutes. Chriss and Wiseman would both be McGee types (Wiseman is the better one, obviously, but if they feel like they already have an adequate lob threat in Chriss, they might be inclined to use their pick to address a different need).

They still need size desperately ... even if it's for limited minutes a game.

Adding Gasol and Wiseman may be the ideal as far as what could happen at the 5 this offseason.

[Scoots1994]

I think the lack of college film is what is shaping some of the negative Wiseman sourcing. Of course that has some validity if you don’t do further research.

But what we knew prior to this season was that he was the number one player for his class basically since being known. The guy is only adding to his game now, and has been working hard on it since he had to walk away from Memphis.

The measurables are off the charts. He appears to have a great demeanor and is coach able. His skill set fits extremely well into what we need.

And the Chriss angle has no bearing to me because Chriss struggles mightily in matchups against much bigger dudes. So Wiseman fills a need there also as a bigger longer player, which we need in the West.

I don’t value writers who can’t see the fit and talent. He’s clearly the best player and also a great fit. Some of those same writers were touting Ball very early on, and I can shoot holes in the Ball argument all day long.

I never dismissed Wiseman, just questioned him. And, unfortunately we still don't have much more data. I just have to hope the Warriors gather and look at as much data as they can get.

[Scoots1994]

Everyone saying you can’t trust writers because they’re throwing darts as well. Well it was a widely known fact we wanted smiley before last draft. I also feel like pascal was predicted as well. Granted Poole was a surprise though.

Of course we wanted Smiley. We brought him to Cruz and then started developing him. They had future plans involved with him in mind obviously. They had their own coaches teaching him day in and day out. Don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

And you’re right about Poole. Nobody had that one. Juries still out as well.

The Paschall pick was on lots of boards. He’s a proven college player, older, and Jay Wright is a friend to Kerr. There are ties there.

There were also several stories about the other NBA teams being mad at the Warriors for hiding Smiley from the GL showcase.

[Scoots1994]

The Warriors will always look at smart long wing players with good motors as the priority, but in part because of the Warriors every team prizes those same players and they know they do need size too.

[Warriors Analyst]

I'm excited for Jordan Pooles growth. If he can become a solid and confident 3 point shooter next season I'm happy. Be a 3point threat and a guy who can go off for 10points in a qtr is needed off the bench. Our Lou Will/Gary Trent Jr

I like the Lou WIll comparison. Similar level of skill and spontaneity with the ball in his hands. Just need the 3 point shot to come around. I do think he might even be a positive defender one day. He's got to get stronger, but he's made some impressive strips ala Andre that indicate a level of defensive awareness.

[ShayDee]

Keldon Johnson has been lighting it up for the spurs. Was there a reason we passed him up again? Although a lot of other teams did but still he was better than Poole on the board.

Maybe they thought Poole was the best shooter on the board after other shooters got picked before 28? Like Cam Johnson and Dylan Windler? Idk why they just don't pick BPA

[Warriors Analyst]

Keldon Johnson has been lighting it up for the spurs. Was there a reason we passed him up again? Although a lot of other teams did but still he was better than Poole on the board.

Maybe they thought Poole was the best shooter on the board after other shooters got picked before 28? Like Cam Johnson and Dylan Windler? Idk why they just don't pick BPA

Anthony Slater actually reported that the Warriors felt pretty certain the Spurs would take Poole if we didn't draft him at #28. It's certainly possible the Spurs goaded the Warriors into that pick, but I've tried to see Poole through the eyes of the Spurs system and it doesn't seem terribly outlandish to me. You'd imagine Pop would have way less tolerance for the perma-heatcheck mentality, but I can see Poole intriguing the Spurs with his passing ability and his shiftiness and use of jab steps, ball fakes, to get open on and off-ball. There's a way more solid fundamental base to his game than most people give him credit for.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Keldon Johnson has been lighting it up for the spurs. Was there a reason we passed him up again? Although a lot of other teams did but still he was better than Poole on the board.

Maybe they thought Poole was the best shooter on the board after other shooters got picked before 28? Like Cam Johnson and Dylan Windler? Idk why they just don't pick BPA

Anthony Slater actually reported that the Warriors felt pretty certain the Spurs would take Poole if we didn't draft him at #28. It's certainly possible the Spurs goaded the Warriors into that pick, but I've tried to see Poole through the eyes of the Spurs system and it doesn't seem terribly outlandish to me. You'd imagine Pop would have way less tolerance for the perma-heatcheck mentality, but I can see Poole intriguing the Spurs with his passing ability and his shiftiness and use of jab steps, ball fakes, to get open on and off-ball. There's a way more solid fundamental base to his game than most people give him credit for.

I've been saying this all season. Poole has a complete suite of NBA moves for a combo guard. He's not a great athlete and his body isn't NBA strong and that's where he started off behind. He needs to work on his shot and his body and he'll come in next season and all the moves and shiftiness will work.

I am disappointed in all the Warriors fans that see his developed skill set but dismiss it just because he hasn't been able to make it work as a rookie. Guys with skills figure it out after acclimating to the speed of the NBA game. Counting on guys without skills to develop them is what is iffy.

I love the confidence he showed in his moves even if it didn't translate into buckets. Most Warriors fans saw it as misplaced confidence but skilled players always end up finding a way to make it work.