Sure sounds like KD is leaving

[northoakland510]

Draymond gave the media and non Warriors exactly what they wanted. My YouTube stream is filled with Warrior hate.

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[Mylie10]

to the point where even fans on his team don't really know.

Nope. 99% of the Warriors fans know how important Klay is. It is casual fans from rest of the league who don't know. Who cares about them? They are the same fans that think most of the Warriors' shot attempts are 3-pointers.

The same fans who say Draymond is a role player

[wco81]

Well Curry is out at least another 10 days.

Worst time for him to be out.

[Concerned_Fan]

to the point where even fans on his team don't really know.

Nope. 99% of the Warriors fans know how important Klay is. It is casual fans from rest of the league who don't know. Who cares about them? They are the same fans that think most of the Warriors' shot attempts are 3-pointers.

The same fans who say Draymond is a role player

Let's do a player comparison in current and historical context. I think you'd see that Klay is harder to replace. Both currently and in a historical context (since GSW is a historically great team with historically great players).

If you replaced Draymond with Anthony Davis or Giannis, you'd have a guy who could grab 10 rebounds, be capable of dishing out 10 or more assists with KD/Curry/Klay on the team, and get up the court even faster than Draymond. Giannis would be other wordly in Draymond's position on this team, it'd be nuts. If it was Giannis that grabbed that rebound, he probably would have dunked it and KD wouldn't have said anything.

In historical context , you could also replace Draymond with other max contract bigs like Tim Duncan, C-Webb, or Kevin Garnett and be just as good or better. Timmy doesn't have the ability to dribble out, handle and run the offense, but Mr. Fundamental's has never really wanted to (he doesn't really want to shoot 3s either, but he's shown fans he can take and make them when he wants). KG can do everything Draymond does to a ridiculous level. C-Webb was one of the first of a generation to be able to grab a board, run down the floor, handle. Him and Shawn Kemp ushered in the era of athletic, skilled, super talented 6'10 power forwards.

Klay's harder to replace. You'd need a historically great 3 point shooter, who has no ego, and is also willing to play tough defense while sacrificing shots. Currently, there's really no one like him. CJ McCollum doesn't play defense. James Harden needs the ball. Bradley Beal is injury prone and also doesn't play defense to Klay's level, and is having ego issues with Wall.

Historically, Ray Allen comes the closest, but he doesn't play that level of defense and had an ego clash with Rondo - wouldn't last as long as Klay did in the same situation. Green would have rubbed him the wrong way. Reggie Miller fits the mold, but doesn't D-up like Klay. Rip Hamilton isn't the quality of shooter. It'd have to be someone like Manu, who's an all-star calibre player, highly skilled, but willing to be overlooked and underrated for Championships. Maybe Mike Finley or Eddie Jones, who was nowhere near as explosive as Klay offensively.

[Coxy]

Nope. 99% of the Warriors fans know how important Klay is. It is casual fans from rest of the league who don't know. Who cares about them? They are the same fans that think most of the Warriors' shot attempts are 3-pointers.

The same fans who say Draymond is a role player

Let's do a player comparison in current and historical context. I think you'd see that Klay is harder to replace. Both currently and in a historical context (since GSW is a historically great team with historically great players).

If you replaced Draymond with Anthony Davis or Giannis, you'd have a guy who could grab 10 rebounds, be capable of dishing out 10 or more assists with KD/Curry/Klay on the team, and get up the court even faster than Draymond. Giannis would be other wordly in Draymond's position on this team, it'd be nuts. If it was Giannis that grabbed that rebound, he probably would have dunked it and KD wouldn't have said anything.

In historical context , you could also replace Draymond with other max contract bigs like Tim Duncan, C-Webb, or Kevin Garnett and be just as good or better. Timmy doesn't have the ability to dribble out, handle and run the offense, but Mr. Fundamental's has never really wanted to (he doesn't really want to shoot 3s either, but he's shown fans he can take and make them when he wants). KG can do everything Draymond does to a ridiculous level. C-Webb was one of the first of a generation to be able to grab a board, run down the floor, handle. Him and Shawn Kemp ushered in the era of athletic, skilled, super talented 6'10 power forwards.

Klay's harder to replace. You'd need a historically great 3 point shooter, who has no ego, and is also willing to play tough defense while sacrificing shots. Currently, there's really no one like him. CJ McCollum doesn't play defense. James Harden needs the ball. Bradley Beal is injury prone and also doesn't play defense to Klay's level, and is having ego issues with Wall.

Historically, Ray Allen comes the closest, but he doesn't play that level of defense and had an ego clash with Rondo - wouldn't last as long as Klay did in the same situation. Green would have rubbed him the wrong way. Reggie Miller fits the mold, but doesn't D-up like Klay. Rip Hamilton isn't the quality of shooter. It'd have to be someone like Manu, who's an all-star calibre player, highly skilled, but willing to be overlooked and underrated for Championships. Maybe Mike Finley or Eddie Jones, who was nowhere near as explosive as Klay offensively.

Draymond is VITAL to unleashing the very best of what Curry and Klay are. His defensive exploits are severely underrated to people that don't watch him day in and day out, and it's in the defence, quarterbacking, personality and that uncanny ability to unleash the very best in our shooters that continues to be ignored. All of those players you mention, like the Duncan's, C-Webb's or Garnett's, don't posses the anywhere near the combination of what Draymond is to this team. They are all significantly better, but they are all 1 options on a team looking for points. Duncan who is the best of them all, couldn't run a break like Draymond, nor could he step out and guard smaller quicker guys to the 3 point line.

Klay and Green are both equally important for the Warriors, however if I had to choose, i have to keep Draymond, as he just is the ultimate glue guy to unlocking winning basketball in the modern era.

[Concerned_Fan]

The same fans who say Draymond is a role player

Let's do a player comparison in current and historical context. I think you'd see that Klay is harder to replace. Both currently and in a historical context (since GSW is a historically great team with historically great players).

If you replaced Draymond with Anthony Davis or Giannis, you'd have a guy who could grab 10 rebounds, be capable of dishing out 10 or more assists with KD/Curry/Klay on the team, and get up the court even faster than Draymond. Giannis would be other wordly in Draymond's position on this team, it'd be nuts. If it was Giannis that grabbed that rebound, he probably would have dunked it and KD wouldn't have said anything.

In historical context , you could also replace Draymond with other max contract bigs like Tim Duncan, C-Webb, or Kevin Garnett and be just as good or better. Timmy doesn't have the ability to dribble out, handle and run the offense, but Mr. Fundamental's has never really wanted to (he doesn't really want to shoot 3s either, but he's shown fans he can take and make them when he wants). KG can do everything Draymond does to a ridiculous level. C-Webb was one of the first of a generation to be able to grab a board, run down the floor, handle. Him and Shawn Kemp ushered in the era of athletic, skilled, super talented 6'10 power forwards.

Klay's harder to replace. You'd need a historically great 3 point shooter, who has no ego, and is also willing to play tough defense while sacrificing shots. Currently, there's really no one like him. CJ McCollum doesn't play defense. James Harden needs the ball. Bradley Beal is injury prone and also doesn't play defense to Klay's level, and is having ego issues with Wall.

Historically, Ray Allen comes the closest, but he doesn't play that level of defense and had an ego clash with Rondo - wouldn't last as long as Klay did in the same situation. Green would have rubbed him the wrong way. Reggie Miller fits the mold, but doesn't D-up like Klay. Rip Hamilton isn't the quality of shooter. It'd have to be someone like Manu, who's an all-star calibre player, highly skilled, but willing to be overlooked and underrated for Championships. Maybe Mike Finley or Eddie Jones, who was nowhere near as explosive as Klay offensively.

Draymond is VITAL to unleashing the very best of what Curry and Klay are. His defensive exploits are severely underrated to people that don't watch him day in and day out, and it's in the defence, quarterbacking, personality and that uncanny ability to unleash the very best in our shooters that continues to be ignored. All of those players you mention, like the Duncan's, C-Webb's or Garnett's, don't posses the anywhere near the combination of what Draymond is to this team. They are all significantly better, but they are all 1 options on a team looking for points. Duncan who is the best of them all, couldn't run a break like Draymond, nor could he step out and guard smaller quicker guys to the 3 point line.

Klay and Green are both equally important for the Warriors, however if I had to choose, i have to keep Draymond, as he just is the ultimate glue guy to unlocking winning basketball in the modern era.

Garnett relished being the team guy, setting picks, and setting teammates up. He can do all that and more. Giannis can do all that too (Giannis is this era's Garnett. Klay is far more unique in his abilities and hard to replace.

[Ontario]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

[Coxy]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

Lol.

[cladden]

Are we being invaded by russian trolls or something? What's with these weak-ass takes.

[likashing]

Are we being invaded by russian trolls or something? What's with these weak-ass takes.

I’m still waiting for some troll starting the “will KD ask for a trade” thread.

[cpower]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

Shawn Marion never had the impact Green had on court. His bbIQ is one of the best in this era. His defensive impact is one of the best in this era and it shows up in the advance stat.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

[watch1958]

Are we being invaded by russian trolls or something? What's with these weak-ass takes.

I’m still waiting for some troll starting the “will KD ask for a trade” thread.

No no no. Instead it will be the "the Warriors need to trade KD now, so they don't risk losing him for nothing....." Then just wait for the scraps people will suggest. "Wouldn't Kyle Korver be a great fit...."

[Ontario]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

Shawn Marion never had the impact Green had on court. His bbIQ is one of the best in this era. His defensive impact is one of the best in this era and it shows up in the advance stat.

He can switch onto guard, forwards and center's that's genuinely handy I'll give you that but it is hardly so unique he gets a Michael Jordan sized free pass to be a jack ass. Put Robert Covington or Otto Porter in his place and the problem is solved, currently the strength of his game is not enough to hold up the size of his ego.

[michaelm]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

Shawn Marion never had the impact Green had on court. His bbIQ is one of the best in this era. His defensive impact is one of the best in this era and it shows up in the advance stat.

He can switch onto guard, forwards and center's that's genuinely handy I'll give you that but it is hardly so unique he gets a Michael Jordan sized free pass to be a jack ass. Put Robert Covington or Otto Porter in his place and the problem is solved, currently the strength of his game is not enough to hold up the size of his ego.

Green replacing an injured David Lee and proceeding to do the point forward thing was fairly important in GSW’s development, which Covington whom I like as a player certainly doesn't do. Green also managed 30 odd points when all others faltered in the deciding game in the 2016 finals despite his limitations as a shooter/scorer.

With Durant they can win without much offensive contribution from Green as they did last season, although not all that handily in the WCF series obviously. Green was carrying an injury as well.

Pretty silly for a grown man to be calling other grown men bitches imo however, and it didn’t end well for GSW last time he so addressed a top 5, or top 1 as the case may be, player.

[Impuniti]

Draymond is and always has been a poor man's Shawn Marion. In Golden State he is a poor man's version of the Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion and when he leaves the Warriors one day he will be exposed as being a poor man's Dallas Mavericks version of Shawn Marion.

Shawn Marion never had the impact Green had on court. His bbIQ is one of the best in this era. His defensive impact is one of the best in this era and it shows up in the advance stat.

It's the best of this era. More impactful than Kawhi and Gobert.

[the_dinks]

he gone and it hurts to think about

[KevinMcreynolds]

Robert Covington and Otto Porter...

[Impuniti]

Dray thinking of going to players associations to get his cash. Fining him 120K was incredibly stupid.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

The organization is in trouble. The guy is a wee bit nuts, and placating to him will just make it worse. Dealing with wierdos is hard to do.