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Post#181 » by Lucky 24 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:30 am

I thought that was an joke about KD....but you're actually serious. Ok, if anything he would want to he a part of the culture that he sees on the other side. Whether it's Toronto or Miami, both are set up much better than Milwaukee to be successful for the foreseeable future.
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Post#182 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:09 pm

I want no part of LeBron on this team. He'd take this magical beautiful chemistry and puke all over it...passively overtaking Curry's good will etc. Ewww. I much prefer Warriors stomping LeBron then winning with him.
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Post#184 » by jason bourne » Tue Sep 1, 2020 1:42 am

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oaktownwarriors87 wrote:I think we have a better chance at LeBron than AD.

If the Lakers lose they'll want to build for the future and the now, and LeBron isn't getting any younger.

LeBron also wants to win now and the Lakers might not get any better.

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LeBron + Kuzma + 2021 pick


LeBron also wants to own the team.


He can have a piece of Chase, but rather have Giannis for the youth movement.

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Post#185 » by wco81 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 3:26 am

We said the same thing after game 1 vs. Magic.
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Post#186 » by jason bourne » Tue Sep 1, 2020 2:22 pm

wco81 wrote:We said the same thing after game 1 vs. Magic.
This is the second round and against a better team that can exploit the Bucks main weakness on defense. I wonder if Curry said something similar like Bucks defense? LOL.

What about gm 7 for the Rockets? Doesn't have that much to do with the draft picks but I enjoyed watching Harden and Rockets work and then lose in the POs like with the Ws LMAO. Anyway, they may affect their future picks by losing to OKC.
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Post#187 » by wco81 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:28 pm

We shall see but it seems a little too easy for teams to limit Giannis' monster production in the playoffs.

Lot of star players find it tougher in the playoffs but of course the elite ones can sustain or improve upon their numbers and they're the ones who get the rings.

If teams deny Giannis the paint, they limit his scoring opportunities, rebounds and assists. It's not like the Bucks don't have very good shooters.

Would Giannis get a lot of one on one matchups in the playoffs like KD did because of the spacing? Maybe but KD is a far more proficient scorer because he's got range at all levels. Giannis outside the paint doesn't scare people.
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Post#188 » by Mav_Carter » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:44 pm

I'm not in favor of going after Giannis...he won't be as good a fit as KD and we'd have to give up too much to get him...Wiggins is going to win MIP...we have the #2 pick in this years draft and another lottery pick in a loaded draft next year...Steph, Dray, Klay in their primes...TPE + MLE...Jordan Poole making the CJ McCollum leap...
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Post#189 » by The Maestro » Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:31 am

This is working out perfectly so far.
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Post#191 » by Little Digger » Thu Sep 3, 2020 3:12 am

KAJ left Milwaukee after winning two titles..Giannis will leave and its not going to matter if he wins a championship or not.
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Post#192 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Sep 3, 2020 4:08 am

Wait....is someone saying that Giannis is a better basketball player than KD? If so....you're nuts. KD, when healthy, top 2. And that includes playoffs.

Yeah...gimme the joy of watching Giannis and Curry over Durant and Curry....but Durant is a better player...no question.
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Post#193 » by Onus » Thu Sep 3, 2020 4:25 am

Giannis would be so dope on this team. All those mid range shots that kd got 1v1, giannis would be getting dunks. Ain’t no one stopping giannis 1v1 unless you’re building a **** wall and if teams are willing to double steph and allow kd to go 1v1 they’re going to let giannis as well and Giannis will feast.

If the bucks get swept I’m getting ready to give up the next 4 drafts that I can for giannis.
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Post#194 » by Flash Falcon X » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:04 am

Difference with KD and Giannis:

Giannis won’t take outside shots away from Steph and Klay.

Splash Bros attack from outside, and provide spacing for Giannis to dominate inside.

Simple as that.

None of the three guys have to change their games or take a step back if they’re on the same team. The more 3s Steph makes, the easier it is for Giannis to score inside. The more Giannis scores inside, the more open shots Steph will end up getting on the outside. It’s like symbiosis.

Mentioned it a few pages back, but now this Heat/Bucks series further shows how Giannis could really benefit with some outside shooters. The Heat are packing the paint and forcing him into awkward shots.
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Post#195 » by Mylie10 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:45 am

Flash Falcon X wrote:Difference with KD and Giannis:

Giannis won’t take outside shots away from Steph and Klay.

Splash Bros attack from outside, and provide spacing for Giannis to dominate inside.

Simple as that.

None of the three guys have to change their games or take a step back if they’re on the same team. The more 3s Steph makes, the easier it is for Giannis to score inside. The more Giannis scores inside, the more open shots Steph will end up getting on the outside. It’s like symbiosis.

Mentioned it a few pages back, but now this Heat/Bucks series further shows how Giannis could really benefit with some outside shooters. The Heat are packing the paint and forcing him into awkward shots.


The Bucks have more guys that can shoot threes than the Warriors do though. We just happen to have two of the best three point shooters of All Time.
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Post#196 » by wco81 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:41 am

In the two games vs. Miami, Bucks are shooting okay, 38% as a team but Miami are getting up more 3PA so they've averaged 3 more 3PMs per game.

It's a close series and the avg. point differential is +6.5 for the Heat so Miami is able to generate more 3 point looks.

I heard somewhere that while Bucks had a dominant defense during the season, before the bubble that is, they conceded a lot of 3 pointers but locked down the paint with Giannis and Lopez.

Could be that it's catching up to them, not to defend the 3 better.
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Post#197 » by Warriors Analyst » Thu Sep 3, 2020 3:58 pm

Onus wrote:Giannis would be so dope on this team. All those mid range shots that kd got 1v1, giannis would be getting dunks. Ain’t no one stopping giannis 1v1 unless you’re building a **** wall and if teams are willing to double steph and allow kd to go 1v1 they’re going to let giannis as well and Giannis will feast.

If the bucks get swept I’m getting ready to give up the next 4 drafts that I can for giannis.


Giannis would be an insane cross of Amare / Pippen / David Robinson on this team. He's not as good as KD, but he also doesn't have the same ego that KD does and wouldn't be hijacking the offense to go 1v1 in the playoffs. Curry/Giannis pick and rolls would be obscene. Curry/Draymond pick and rolls with Giannis in the dunker spot would be unguardable. The lack of a jumpshot wouldn't matter here because Giannis wouldn't need to take the last shot.
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Post#198 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Sep 3, 2020 4:55 pm

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Onus wrote:Giannis would be so dope on this team. All those mid range shots that kd got 1v1, giannis would be getting dunks. Ain’t no one stopping giannis 1v1 unless you’re building a **** wall and if teams are willing to double steph and allow kd to go 1v1 they’re going to let giannis as well and Giannis will feast.

If the bucks get swept I’m getting ready to give up the next 4 drafts that I can for giannis.


Giannis would be an insane cross of Amare / Pippen / David Robinson on this team. He's not as good as KD, but he also doesn't have the same ego that KD does and wouldn't be hijacking the offense to go 1v1 in the playoffs. Curry/Giannis pick and rolls would be obscene. Curry/Draymond pick and rolls with Giannis in the dunker spot would be unguardable. The lack of a jumpshot wouldn't matter here because Giannis wouldn't need to take the last shot.


Agree. What I love about Giannis is that joy....similar to Curry...in this game. Can you imagine Curry and Giannis going nutz with lobs and open court passes ... omg.

I guarantee you Giannis will look BETTER in the Warriors lineup than he has ever looked.
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Post#199 » by Flash Falcon X » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:02 pm

And he's only 25.

In 5 years, Steph and Klay will be declining while Giannis is entering his prime.

Perfect timing of playing with the Splash Brothers while they're in their prime for about 4-5 years, and then getting to take over the team completely once Giannis hits his own prime. They can win rings together as a group, and once Giannis takes over he can win more rings as the main guy who's more improved and experienced. Of course hoping the Splash Brothers are still on the team the whole time, but passing on the torch midway.
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Post#200 » by jason bourne » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:09 pm

Giannis isn't better than KD, so the Warriors would have to improve their team (albeit now without a S&T) as has been discussed. The rub is it will be difficult to both trade for Giannis and improve their 3-pt shooting.

Yesterday, it came out that the Heat and Raptors would have the best chance for trading for Giannis should he become available for 2021. The Ws would have to trade down and get some expiring contracts back as well as a player who will help. It does not have to be during the draft day trade, but stillwon't be easy.

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As frontrunners emerge in the Giannis sweepstakes, Milwaukee's clock is ticking
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September 2, 2020, 10:29 p.m. PDT

The clock is ticking on everything the Milwaukee Bucks have built the last few years, title contenders facing adversity they have yet to prove they can conquer.

And if they’re not careful, the clock could be ticking on their time with a homegrown MVP who desperately wants to live up to his billing.

The officiating gaffes only seemed to prolong the inevitable, the basketball gods ensuring a just result was the conclusion as the Miami Heat took an improbable 2-0 lead Wednesday night on the team with the NBA’s best record.

As certain and as clear as the Bucks speak on matters off the court, ready to forfeit a game in the name of social justice causes that matter, they seem as skittish and unsure about playoff basketball. For the better part of two games, Miami has made the most comfortable team in the NBA look uncomfortable — and whether the Heat realize it or not, they could be putting on the best recruiting job on Giannis Antetokounmpo, who’s set to enter unrestricted free agency after next season.

They’ve contained him and shown the soon-to-be two-time Most Valuable Player his biggest warts in a raw but controlled fashion, similar to the job the Toronto Raptors did to him for the last four games in the conference finals last year.

It’s no wonder many in league circles believe Miami and Toronto are the frontrunners in the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes, with one observer telling Yahoo Sports “it’s an open secret” within the Orlando bubble.

Miami looks like the perfect mistress with their culture, the ability to morph into different identities at a moment’s notice but yet still feel like a team playing within itself.

In Game 1, Jimmy Butler took over in the most tangible of ways with a cool 40-ball.

In Game 2, Butler hit the clutch free throws on an empty court, but Tyler Herro and Goran Dragic took center stage, looking every bit like a team ready to snatch supremacy in this uncertain environment."

As frontrunners emerge in the Giannis sweepstakes, Milwaukee's clock is ticking.
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