G10 : Warriors v Hawks

[floppymoose]

Knife for cutting the cigar? I'm guessing, I don't know how cigars work.

[Coxy]

Can't wait for the T Wolves game. Have tons of thoughts on them. Namely for all the gaudy counting stats Edwards puts up, the advanced numbers are bad...his usage rate is absurdly high...and he takes the most shots on the team? He's young so he'll continue to improve but giving your soph no structure and a massive leash may not end up being the best approach.

Their big 3 had great games tonight, but fell to MEM. Can't count on two good DLo games in a row so I like our chances.

It's also good to see that Malik Beasley's numbers finally reflect who he is as a person: a massive turd.

If we focus in defensively from the 1st play, we should crush them. If we let their scorers get going, we could find ourselves in another unnecessary shoot out.

And yes, Beasley is a giant wank stain indeed.

[Mac1958]

That Curry kid may have a future in this league.

[floppymoose]

Did Juan elbow Bog on in the face?

Edit: Yup.

Technical replays are stupid. Slow down the frames and everything looks intentional

He caught him in the chin while pulling the ball.. ridiculous. Refs have been bad both ways all night

Live I thought he elbowed him in the face. I'm just happy the replay confirmed what I saw live (and the Hawks announcers missed it).

I'm fine with that tech considering some of the other things they give flagrants and techs for - but do agree with you that I thought it was unintentional (even though he was clearly frustrated - even carried over to the jump ball).

My thought was that he giving him the "get off me" elbow, but didn't realize he was getting the face.

[superunknown]

That Curry kid may have a future in this league.

unfortunately he will go to jail for what he did to that guy, kevin huerter, in the third quarter. murdered repeatedly and then his corpse abused on national TV.
in fairness, it's also mcmillan fault, he should've changed the primary defender on that animal steph before it was too late. he should go to jail as well as an accessory to murder

[NeoWarriors]

That Curry kid may have a future in this league.

unfortunately he will go to jail for what he did to that guy, kevin huerter, in the third quarter. murdered repeatedly and then his corpse abused on national TV.
in fairness, it's also mcmillan fault, he should've changed the primary defender on that animal steph before it was too late. he should go to jail as well as an accessory to murder

Nate McMillan: O'Doyle's rule!

Steph Curry: Splash!

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[TwoStarz]

That stretch where Heurter got absolutely abused...I felt so bad for him. He looked so hopeless.

[cdubbz]

There were no adjustments... people keep saying GP2 got roasted. Guys like Trae, Curry, Dame.. if you catch them when theyre hot, whos stopping them? Anyone?

People are saying it because it's true and I get what you're saying. I'm sure Hawks are saying Huerter got roasted by Curry.

What baffled me is that GP2 kept getting roasted the same exact way for like 4 straight plays lol. Full court pressure, then gets blown by around half court or loses Trae trailing him on a screen and then Trae gets to the paint for a floater or pass.

I'll always like GP2 full court pressure and air tight defense, but would have liked to try a diff approach after the 2nd time. Same could be said of Hawks and Huerter -- I couldn't believe they let him stay on Curry or even stay in the game after Steph was hunting him down.

[wco81]

Teams definitely are targeting Lee, the way the Warriors went after Paddy Mills whenever he played against them.

Having Klay back will help but it would be great if Moody and Kuminga can earn more minutes. They need to be consistent shooters when left open and be able to defend. They have the athleticism and size to defend better but they are learning.

[and1GS]

Teams definitely are targeting Lee, the way the Warriors went after Paddy Mills whenever he played against them.

Having Klay back will help but it would be great if Moody and Kuminga can earn more minutes. They need to be consistent shooters when left open and be able to defend. They have the athleticism and size to defend better but they are learning.

Kuminga specifically I hope stops settling for 3s. We saw it more this game where he had a good drive, but with that frame he's really in there to play int he frontcourt and pressure the rim.

Moody - yes. Needs to be more consistent from 3 and once he hits that milestone I think we see him out there a lot more.

[parsnips33]

Kuminga looked pretty rough, made a lot of mistakes, but the effort level stayed high with him. That's a good sign

[Onus]

There were no adjustments... people keep saying GP2 got roasted. Guys like Trae, Curry, Dame.. if you catch them when theyre hot, whos stopping them? Anyone?

Trae got hot. We rode it out and they couldnt sustain it.. because Curry got hot twice. Thats what it came down to - our star got on a heater twice, theirs only once. Our defense looked a lot better in the 2nd half because, for whatever reason, the Hawks decided to share the ball more and try and have the secondary players score. And bless them for that

There were definitely adjustments on our end defensively. At first we we were switching and leaving people on an island in the first half. The second half we started trapping and even zoning up which deterred Trae. We absolutely changed our defense. You can hear Steph say we started using a gimmick defense to load up on Trae.

[cpower]

Rk Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
1 Stephen Curry 33 10 336 26.8 .615 .663 .252 2.9 17.6 10.4 32.2 2.2 2.1 12.5 32.7 1.2 0.7 1.9 .277 7.2 0.6 7.8 0.8
2 Draymond Green 31 10 305 14.4 .544 .145 .387 6.1 23.2 14.8 31.5 1.9 2.7 29.3 14.4 0.3 0.7 1.0 .164 -1.8 3.0 1.3 0.2
3 Andrew Wiggins 26 10 291 14.0 .539 .389 .237 4.5 11.1 7.8 8.2 1.3 1.0 8.8 23.3 0.2 0.5 0.7 .119 -1.6 -2.2 -3.9 -0.1
4 Jordan Poole 22 10 288 16.2 .569 .520 .118 0.8 9.0 5.0 19.3 2.3 1.1 12.6 27.2 0.3 0.5 0.8 .132 -1.3 -0.5 -1.9 0.0
5 Damion Lee 29 9 217 14.5 .622 .494 .203 1.5 11.0 6.4 8.6 0.2 0.5 4.4 17.8 0.5 0.3 0.8 .173 0.1 -2.0 -1.9 0.0
6 Andre Iguodala 38 8 163 13.2 .488 .548 .129 3.3 17.2 10.4 22.6 1.7 3.1 10.9 9.7 0.3 0.3 0.6 .178 -0.6 2.4 1.8 0.2
7 Kevon Looney 25 10 155 15.8 .626 .000 .559 9.8 25.5 17.8 7.0 1.2 4.6 12.4 13.4 0.3 0.4 0.7 .215 -2.8 0.0 -2.7 0.0
8 Otto Porter 28 9 155 17.6 .646 .638 .085 4.2 22.8 13.7 10.8 2.4 3.3 9.3 14.9 0.3 0.4 0.7 .219 1.2 2.0 3.1 0.2
9 Nemanja Bjelica 33 10 151 21.1 .706 .404 .191 7.2 25.4 16.5 17.3 2.8 2.0 19.1 17.9 0.4 0.4 0.8 .246 1.7 2.4 4.0 0.2
10 Juan Toscano-Anderson 28 10 138 12.3 .598 .514 .114 2.4 12.8 7.7 15.6 2.4 1.5 16.0 13.6 0.2 0.3 0.4 .156 -2.4 1.4 -1.0 0.0
11 Gary Payton II 29 10 113 24.3 .781 .250 .111 7.7 12.9 10.3 13.7 5.4 0.9 15.6 17.0 0.4 0.3 0.7 .302 0.6 5.0 5.6 0.2
12 Moses Moody 19 8 56 6.2 .450 .556 .111 0.0 13.0 6.6 7.2 0.0 1.8 5.0 15.2 0.0 0.1 0.0 .040 -5.0 -2.0 -7.0 -0.1
13 Chris Chiozza 26 3 27 2.2 .333 .778 .000 4.0 11.5 7.9 14.0 3.5 0.0 25.0 19.0 -0.1 0.1 0.0 -0.069 -7.8 0.3 -7.6 0.0
14 Jonathan Kuminga 19 5 23 -5.5 .381 .571 .286 0.0 18.1 9.2 5.6 2.0 0.0 33.7 22.1 -0.1 0.0 -0.1 -0.186 -15.0 -1.6 -16.6 -0.1
15 Jeff Dowtin 24 2 6 -5.4 .000 .000 .000 0.0 34.6 17.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 -0.084 -17.4 -0.2 -17.7 0.0

bbref early advance stat is actually telling the story here. GP2, Porter and Bjelica are doing so well for us

[SpreeChokeJob]

Teams definitely are targeting Lee, the way the Warriors went after Paddy Mills whenever he played against them.

Having Klay back will help but it would be great if Moody and Kuminga can earn more minutes. They need to be consistent shooters when left open and be able to defend. They have the athleticism and size to defend better but they are learning.

Kuminga specifically I hope stops settling for 3s. We saw it more this game where he had a good drive, but with that frame he's really in there to play int he frontcourt and pressure the rim.

Moody - yes. Needs to be more consistent from 3 and once he hits that milestone I think we see him out there a lot more.

They designed a play for Kuminga to run a cut at the end, but the ball was stolen away.

Poole needs to add some more tricks to his game. Right now his game is dependent on having the ball in his hand. But when he was leading the third unit, he wasn’t making it easier for the other guys to score. The other four were looking at him dribbling and shooting. To take it to the next level and for him to inherit the team, he needs to be more than just a scorer.

[xdrta+]

There were no adjustments... people keep saying GP2 got roasted. Guys like Trae, Curry, Dame.. if you catch them when theyre hot, whos stopping them? Anyone?

Trae got hot. We rode it out and they couldnt sustain it.. because Curry got hot twice. Thats what it came down to - our star got on a heater twice, theirs only once. Our defense looked a lot better in the 2nd half because, for whatever reason, the Hawks decided to share the ball more and try and have the secondary players score. And bless them for that

There were definitely adjustments on our end defensively. At first we we were switching and leaving people on an island in the first half. The second half we started trapping and even zoning up which deterred Trae. We absolutely changed our defense. You can hear Steph say we started using a gimmick defense to load up on Trae.

Kerr and the coaching staff don't get enough credit for their halftime adjustments. There are reasons the Warriors have usually had big third quarters and halftime adjustments are an important one.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

I miss the old game threads.... this is what we're stuck with.

Didnt realize there was a ban on making game threads.. there used to be a race to make them back in the day for each game.

The old game threads were clever, but if this is complaining about the whole "dont post scantily clad women on the game thread because some people surf at work/its more inclusive/this isn't reddit or twitter", then no sympathy whatsoever. Evolve.

I'd love to see the old style threads come back, I made one last year, but it takes time

Those threads made me question some of you guys' taste in women. Not that that's a necessarily a bad thing. You WANT a wing man who's attracted to women with giant thighs and facial hair. He's far less likely to block you.

Just bring back the Korean K-pop girls for the playoffs. It made me feel a bit like a pedophile but I liked them.

[FNQ]

There were no adjustments... people keep saying GP2 got roasted. Guys like Trae, Curry, Dame.. if you catch them when theyre hot, whos stopping them? Anyone?

Trae got hot. We rode it out and they couldnt sustain it.. because Curry got hot twice. Thats what it came down to - our star got on a heater twice, theirs only once. Our defense looked a lot better in the 2nd half because, for whatever reason, the Hawks decided to share the ball more and try and have the secondary players score. And bless them for that

There were definitely adjustments on our end defensively. At first we we were switching and leaving people on an island in the first half. The second half we started trapping and even zoning up which deterred Trae. We absolutely changed our defense. You can hear Steph say we started using a gimmick defense to load up on Trae.

Nope watch.. they did that in the 1st half too. Trae was hot. Looney was left twice and that was it, bc certain people who had a disastrous first half defensively left their assigned area. Mostly Wiggins, some Dray. They stayed home a bit more in the 2nd, but the same exact D was employed. Don’t listen to them, watch. I just rewatched entire 3rd Q, they trapped on Capela’s screens. Which is our defensive standard on lead guards / bad offensive screeners. The play that killed us in 1st half was Collins as a screener, where they had a ridiculous 1.9 PPP.

If that’s an adjustment to you guys, ok. But that’s how the defense is *supposed* to work. It’s how we’ve done it for almost a decade now. The adjustment was to play the defense we always do? Big props to Kerr for having the Hawks go away from the play that killed us early!

[cdubbz]

Being nit picky, but I wish the 3 minutes of garbage time are dedicated to at least letting Kuminga/Moody touch the ball and make a play.

Wouldn't have minded seeing the players run some plays to try and get Kuminga/Moody shots.

[Sam Lowry Jr]

There were no adjustments... people keep saying GP2 got roasted. Guys like Trae, Curry, Dame.. if you catch them when theyre hot, whos stopping them? Anyone?

Trae got hot. We rode it out and they couldnt sustain it.. because Curry got hot twice. Thats what it came down to - our star got on a heater twice, theirs only once. Our defense looked a lot better in the 2nd half because, for whatever reason, the Hawks decided to share the ball more and try and have the secondary players score. And bless them for that

There were definitely adjustments on our end defensively. At first we we were switching and leaving people on an island in the first half. The second half we started trapping and even zoning up which deterred Trae. We absolutely changed our defense. You can hear Steph say we started using a gimmick defense to load up on Trae.

From Slater https://theathletic.com/2944289/2021/11/09/five-observations-steph-curry-goes-for-50-and-warriors-make-defensive-adjustment-to-beat-hawks/

Janky/gimmicky D in full effect:

Even without Mike Brown — the coaching staff’s schematic head of the defense stayed home sick Monday, per the team — that league-best defensive unit adjusted well in the second half, blitzing Young more aggressively, using Payton as a pest and getting the ball out of his hands.

“They were box-and-one-ing me the whole second half or most of that second half,” Young said. “Every time I come off a screen, they trap. We kind of did it to Steph later in the game. But their team is so wired and they know how to — when Steph gets trapped, Steph gets off it and Draymond is throwing a lob and finding another shooter. They’re wired like that. They’ve been through this so they know how to handle when Steph’s getting trapped and things like that.”

Young’s point was that the young Hawks weren’t as prepared. The tactic worked. Young was held to only seven second-half points on six shot attempts. Atlanta, which scored 65 points in the first half, had only 48 in the second half. The Hawks looked discombobulated, unable to find ways to get Young going or leverage that tilted floor into clean opportunities for his teammates.

“If you let him kind of roll around, get his offense and play make, he’s tough,” Curry said of Young. “We tried to take that away in the second half. GP was awesome. Then we tried a gimmicky defense to slow his rhythm down a little bit, and it worked.”

Gimmicky? That’s one of the words Curry used to describe the box-and-one the Raptors put on him in the Finals and that teams have unleashed on him sporadically since. How’d it feel being able to spring that on an opposing star scorer?

“I loved it,” Curry said. “It was great to be (standing there) on the elbow instead of running around myself.”

[xdrta+]

I'd say those count as adjustments. Don't know why anyone would try and deny it.