Kuminga and moody extensions

whatisacenter · Post #181 » by **whatisacenter** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 6:26 pm

Too bad Giannis is a 4.

wco81 · Post #182 » by **wco81** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 6:36 pm

Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:
There have been a lot of moves that seemed obvious to do when the game was important, and Kerr always (at least as far as I can remember) goes with what he's been doing all season. 2 meritocracy games, without Curry, aren't enough to make me believe Kerr will have the stones to make a call like that when the games matter most

I agree, but Kerr has Stotts making those calls like he used to let Brown do, so it's more about making Steve comfortable with him at the helm of rotations and so far so good.

Scary that we're attributing so much to Stotts and he's the betting favorite to take over for Milwaukee.

That would be really weird.

He was hired as an assistant with the Bucks in summer of 2023 and right before the season began, Adrian Griffin fired Stotts for trying to talk to the players.

DonaldSanders · Post #183 » by **DonaldSanders** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 6:49 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Too bad Giannis is a 4.

Yeah I mean everyone knows Giannis (6'11) and JK (6'7) have identical player attributes and skillsets. Two players that are well known to be carbon copies. Bummer!

whatisacenter · Post #184 » by **whatisacenter** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 7:05 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Too bad Giannis is a 4.

Yeah I mean everyone knows Giannis (6'11) and JK (6'7) have identical player attributes and skillsets. Two players that are well known to be carbon copies. Bummer!

Just include Draymond in the trade package and bring back Giannis and Lopez… Problem solved.

I would love to see mouth on a team without Steph Curry.

EvanZ · Post #185 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 7:36 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Too bad Giannis is a 4.

Maybe he's the 5 on this team. :wink:

Scoots1994 · Post #186 » by **Scoots1994** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 9:14 pm

Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:
There have been a lot of moves that seemed obvious to do when the game was important, and Kerr always (at least as far as I can remember) goes with what he's been doing all season. 2 meritocracy games, without Curry, aren't enough to make me believe Kerr will have the stones to make a call like that when the games matter most

I agree, but Kerr has Stotts making those calls like he used to let Brown do, so it's more about making Steve comfortable with him at the helm of rotations and so far so good.

Scary that we're attributing so much to Stotts and he's the betting favorite to take over for Milwaukee.

Such is life.

Jester_ · Post #187 » by **Jester_** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 9:15 pm

is there any practical deal that would make a giannis trade work?

Wiggins / Kuminga / Podz and a bunch of picks perhaps

are there many teams that would give more young talent than that? OKC can but no chance they give up Chet even for giannis imo. i guess they could throw so many picks it doesn't matter though

marthafokker · Post #188 » by **marthafokker** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 9:46 pm

EvanZ wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Too bad Giannis is a 4.

Maybe he's the 5 on this team.

No no no. Kerr will put him in as a 1and move Curry to the 2.

EvanZ · Post #189 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 10:38 pm

Jester_ wrote:is there any practical deal that would make a giannis trade work?

Wiggins / Kuminga / Podz and a bunch of picks perhaps

are there many teams that would give more young talent than that? OKC can but no chance they give up Chet even for giannis imo. i guess they could throw so many picks it doesn't matter though

It's Wiggins/JK/Podz/GPII/Gui + picks

WarriorGM · Post #190 » by **WarriorGM** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:22 am

EvanZ wrote:
Jester_ wrote:is there any practical deal that would make a giannis trade work?

Wiggins / Kuminga / Podz and a bunch of picks perhaps

are there many teams that would give more young talent than that? OKC can but no chance they give up Chet even for giannis imo. i guess they could throw so many picks it doesn't matter though

It's Wiggins/JK/Podz/GPII/Gui + picks

If Giannis wants to be moved that might limit how much the Bucks can ask.

CDM_Stats · Post #191 » by **CDM_Stats** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:48 am

I know people love to dream about Giannis at GSW, but its been 5 games and they dont have their 2nd best player - and yes, he is their 2nd best player, because he's not a total sieve defensively

They are under no pressure at all to move him because he's not one of those guys who's value drops if he demands a trade, and most importantly, they have no incentive to tank. If they trade Giannis, they are as likely to want win-now guys as any contending team. We're deep, but not the kind of deep that gets Giannis. Miami I think has a good chance, Cavs could start with Mobley, Grizz have JJJ, and obviously the Thunder have the assets to go there as well. Just dont think the Warriors can compete unless the Bucks are basically going all in on the Warriors being bad in the upcoming future... a tough thing to bank on if Giannis were here

Onus · Post #192 » by **Onus** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:51 am

Tbh I’m not even sure how much I even want Giannis

CDM_Stats · Post #193 » by **CDM_Stats** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:52 am

Jester_ wrote:is there any practical deal that would make a giannis trade work?

Wiggins / Kuminga / Podz and a bunch of picks perhaps

are there many teams that would give more young talent than that? OKC can but no chance they give up Chet even for giannis imo. i guess they could throw so many picks it doesn't matter though

An offer around Jalen Williams beats anything we can offer dead, but salary wise I'm not sure exactly how they'd swing it without creating a giant hole in their roster

If I had to bet on a landing spot right now, I'd say Memphis.. JJJ/Smart is a win-now kind of offer with some upside in JJJ to be a legit star. Gives MIL some desperately needed perimeter defense with Smart and JJJ can mitigate the losing Giannis damage. Plus Memphis has all their 1sts, plus one extra, so I think they have the best win-now-but-not-all-in offer out there

Jester_ · Post #194 » by **Jester_** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 1:13 am

CDM_Stats wrote:
Jester_ wrote:is there any practical deal that would make a giannis trade work?

Wiggins / Kuminga / Podz and a bunch of picks perhaps

are there many teams that would give more young talent than that? OKC can but no chance they give up Chet even for giannis imo. i guess they could throw so many picks it doesn't matter though

An offer around Jalen Williams beats anything we can offer dead, but salary wise I'm not sure exactly how they'd swing it without creating a giant hole in their roster

If I had to bet on a landing spot right now, I'd say Memphis.. JJJ/Smart is a win-now kind of offer with some upside in JJJ to be a legit star. Gives MIL some desperately needed perimeter defense with Smart and JJJ can mitigate the losing Giannis damage. Plus Memphis has all their 1sts, plus one extra, so I think they have the best win-now-but-not-all-in offer out there

that's a pretty good deal. my first instinct was that JJJ is too old but i just realized he's somehow still only 25. i forget the guy was like 12 when he was drafted.

i think warriors picks will be a lot more valuable than Memphis picks though. they're unlikely to truly suck anytime soon.

watch1958 · Post #195 » by **watch1958** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 2:32 am

San Antonio might jump in. They have a bunch of valuable picks.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #196 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 4:38 am

Jk wanted 35M/year, dubs countered with 30M.

That's not horrible, but he's still not worth double of Moody.

superunknown · Post #197 » by **superunknown** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 8:23 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Jk wanted 35M/year, dubs countered with 30M.

That's not horrible, but he's still not worth double of Moody.

as for today, he doesn't worth 30M either. if that is true, that was a bad counter.

Onus · Post #198 » by **Onus** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:12 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Jk wanted 35M/year, dubs countered with 30M.

That's not horrible, but he's still not worth double of Moody.

Wow if true. Mdj sticking to his guns is chef kiss.

hamncheese · Post #199 » by **hamncheese** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:25 pm

Milwaukee is in bad shape. They don't necessarily own their own picks until 2031 (either traded away or pick swapped). They don't have young talent on their roster. They need a new coach. Giannis and Dame are their best assets. And at 34, Dame would need to be traded sooner than later.

They should trade Giannis for a haul of young talent and picks.

WarriorGM · Post #200 » by **WarriorGM** » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:26 pm

superunknown wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Jk wanted 35M/year, dubs countered with 30M.

That's not horrible, but he's still not worth double of Moody.

as for today, he doesn't worth 30M either. if that is true, that was a bad counter.

As it turned out it was actually a very good one. If the amount was too low Kuminga might feel insulted. Going by the contracts signed by others in the league it appeared to be about market rate for players in Kuminga's situation. If you thought it was too much to offer it still turned out fine since Kuminga rejected it.