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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1801 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:35 pm

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watch1958 wrote:Lots of decent point guard candidates. Maybe one will get frozen out and need a one year deal.


I'd rather pull one from the 2nd round (draft is deep with them) and then take either a veteran flier again, or give the reins to Poole.. or some 2-part combination of the above 3.

I'm definitely against drafting one in the 1st, because we'd be drafting a projected long-term backup with a lottery pick, and aside from the top 4, its pretty thin at the top. Mitchell and Giddey are the names most commonly thrown around. Mitchell's real small, kinda old for a prospect, and doesnt have a long-term body of work. Giddey has great vision, but as guys like Rubio have shown, great vision isn't enough for a PG in today's game. And he's even a borderline elite defender.. simply put, you have to be able to credibly shoot as a PG, otherwise the odds are long that you're an NBA starter

I hope our FA focus is on a C honestly.. we used to make due with guys that were nearly out of the league, like Zaza and McGee. Find a big that can board/dunk/set screens, and we should be fine. We're only looking to fill a 15mpg slot there.

Ideally Id love to bring in Nerlens Noel. Huge defensive impact last year, but his offensive impact was nil. I think that was more a product of his team's offensive style than anything. If you can even make that a net neutral, he's a find


I like Noel but his game really stagnated. Not sure he's a major upgrade on Looney. And he certainly doesn't fit the "shooting" part of what the Warriors said they were looking for there.

I like Mitchell, I think his lack of size is being over-blown ... that game is more about effort and IQ than size. That said I'm not sold on him at 7.

Giddey's shot is funky but it's not bad and there is some sign of ongoing improvement, and he is very young still. Taking him is a risk, but I don't think you can assume he will never develop a reliable outside shot like some past "non-shooting PGs"
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1802 » by The-Power » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:39 pm

FNQ wrote:I'd rather pull one from the 2nd round (draft is deep with them) and then take either a veteran flier again, or give the reins to Poole.. or some 2-part combination of the above 3.

Who do you have in mind in the second round? I'm not sure I see any PG ready to be a primary back-up in his first NBA season but maybe I'm missing someone?
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1803 » by FNQ » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:51 pm

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FNQ wrote:I'd rather pull one from the 2nd round (draft is deep with them) and then take either a veteran flier again, or give the reins to Poole.. or some 2-part combination of the above 3.

Who do you have in mind in the second round? I'm not sure I see any PG ready to be a primary back-up in his first NBA season but maybe I'm missing someone?


Probably not anyone definitely ready, but a lot of prospects I like who are fringe 1sts/early 2nds:

Joel Ayayi
David Duke
Daishen Nix
Shon Hyland
David Johnson

A lot of them are hybrids, kinda like Poole, but I think they slant more towards PG than he does. I wouldn't select one and then not give them veteran competition though. I'd even be OK with a Wanamaker in front of them, someone they have to beat to earn the role. Maybe Nico qualifies, I dunno. Ayayi remains my favorite because he's been a role player on a winner, hustles like hell (7 rebs!) and has a nicely rounded game
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Post#1805 » by wco81 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:31 pm

I guess team didn't want to extend him for a couple more years at a lower annual average?

He is definitely physically diminished compared to 2019 when he could finish over people once he gathered. But still the most effective center on the team other than in the small lineups.
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Post#1806 » by and1GS » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:18 am

Zach Collins re-injured his foot and I feel his value may be dumpster diver level as a RFA now. If it was near minimum deal, I'd love to bring him on board.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1807 » by Kuya » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:49 am

Patty Mills as backup PG. Kyle Lowry would be most ideal.
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Post#1808 » by wco81 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 am

Kuya wrote:Patty Mills as backup PG. Kyle Lowry would be most ideal.


Lowry is very effective at his age but I hate his game stylistically. He flops hard and he must have a higher FT rate than Curry because of it.

He’s an absolute bulldog like CP3, dulls some dirty tactics to be able to compete despite being undersized.

He will want way more than the Warriors can afford so is moot.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1809 » by Quazza » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:35 am

Kuya wrote:Patty Mills as backup PG. Kyle Lowry would be most ideal.


Patty would be awesome.

There's a push here for him to be our flag bearer at the Olympics too. Much loved
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1810 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:08 pm

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Kuya wrote:Patty Mills as backup PG. Kyle Lowry would be most ideal.


Patty would be awesome.

There's a push here for him to be our flag bearer at the Olympics too. Much loved


Patty Mills has never been awesome, and now he's old.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1811 » by Mylie10 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 6:38 pm

Patty Mills on a vet min is a good deal come on don’t hate. He’s about as vet as they come and he’s still jitter big good.

With veteran minimum deals, you guys better lower your standards lol

Like for instance Kelly Olynyk. Lots of people don’t like him, but if he came at a veteran minimum price tag you have to be all over it. Big with range. Something we don’t have.

JJ Reddick super old, but even with his foot injury and crappy Pelican season he still hit 39% from three this season. He would be nice off the bench for a vet min.

Millsap like Reggae mentioned would be a really solid addition as a vet min guy.

All vet min guys have warts.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1812 » by Mob Byers » Sat Jul 3, 2021 9:41 pm

Im cool off JJ Reddick, especially if our JJ comes over to the states. He should retire and focus on his social media/podcast stuff.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1813 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 11:45 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Patty Mills on a vet min is a good deal come on don’t hate. He’s about as vet as they come and he’s still jitter big good.

With veteran minimum deals, you guys better lower your standards lol

Like for instance Kelly Olynyk. Lots of people don’t like him, but if he came at a veteran minimum price tag you have to be all over it. Big with range. Something we don’t have.

JJ Reddick super old, but even with his foot injury and crappy Pelican season he still hit 39% from three this season. He would be nice off the bench for a vet min.

Millsap like Reggae mentioned would be a really solid addition as a vet min guy.

All vet min guys have warts.


I'm not against Patty Mills being a Warriors, but does he now meet the definition of awesome?

awesome: extremely impressive or daunting; inspiring great admiration, apprehension, or fear. :)

I would LOVE Olynyk on the vet min.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1814 » by Quazza » Sat Jul 3, 2021 11:49 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Patty Mills on a vet min is a good deal come on don’t hate. He’s about as vet as they come and he’s still jitter big good.

With veteran minimum deals, you guys better lower your standards lol

Like for instance Kelly Olynyk. Lots of people don’t like him, but if he came at a veteran minimum price tag you have to be all over it. Big with range. Something we don’t have.

JJ Reddick super old, but even with his foot injury and crappy Pelican season he still hit 39% from three this season. He would be nice off the bench for a vet min.

Millsap like Reggae mentioned would be a really solid addition as a vet min guy.

All vet min guys have warts.


I'm not against Patty Mills being a Warriors, but does he now meet the definition of awesome?

awesome: extremely impressive or daunting; inspiring great admiration, apprehension, or fear. :)

I would LOVE Olynyk on the vet min.


Relax - I said he would be an awesome addition to the team. Not that he is awesome, per say

I'm also Australian so don't be such a s**t c**t mate (also a very Aussie term )
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1815 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Jul 4, 2021 2:44 am

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Mylie10 wrote:Patty Mills on a vet min is a good deal come on don’t hate. He’s about as vet as they come and he’s still jitter big good.

With veteran minimum deals, you guys better lower your standards lol

Like for instance Kelly Olynyk. Lots of people don’t like him, but if he came at a veteran minimum price tag you have to be all over it. Big with range. Something we don’t have.

JJ Reddick super old, but even with his foot injury and crappy Pelican season he still hit 39% from three this season. He would be nice off the bench for a vet min.

Millsap like Reggae mentioned would be a really solid addition as a vet min guy.

All vet min guys have warts.


I'm not against Patty Mills being a Warriors, but does he now meet the definition of awesome?

awesome: extremely impressive or daunting; inspiring great admiration, apprehension, or fear. :)

I would LOVE Olynyk on the vet min.


Relax - I said he would be an awesome addition to the team. Not that he is awesome, per say

I'm also Australian so don't be such a s**t c**t mate (also a very Aussie term )


I've spent enough time with Aussie's to have heard the term :)

Nothing about Mills on the Warriors is "awesome" to me. He's an okay shooter who used to be an above average defender for someone his size who doesn't create much offense for others.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1816 » by Arlo » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:36 am

I'd like me some Patty, but he's a steady, durable back up guard with a sweet 3pt stroke...he's making more than vet min.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1817 » by Arlo » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:39 am

Scoots1994 wrote:
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I'm not against Patty Mills being a Warriors, but does he now meet the definition of awesome?

awesome: extremely impressive or daunting; inspiring great admiration, apprehension, or fear. :)

I would LOVE Olynyk on the vet min.


Relax - I said he would be an awesome addition to the team. Not that he is awesome, per say

I'm also Australian so don't be such a s**t c**t mate (also a very Aussie term )


I've spent enough time with Aussie's to have heard the term :)

Nothing about Mills on the Warriors is "awesome" to me. He's an okay shooter who used to be an above average defender for someone his size who doesn't create much offense for others.


The kind of awesome we need...for sure. In the same way Livingston was. Reliable production, vet presence with the second unit, better than okay shooting, elite at the line...from a quality system.
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Re: Free Agent Talk 

Post#1818 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Jul 4, 2021 1:24 pm

Arlo wrote:
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Relax - I said he would be an awesome addition to the team. Not that he is awesome, per say

I'm also Australian so don't be such a s**t c**t mate (also a very Aussie term )


I've spent enough time with Aussie's to have heard the term :)

Nothing about Mills on the Warriors is "awesome" to me. He's an okay shooter who used to be an above average defender for someone his size who doesn't create much offense for others.


The kind of awesome we need...for sure. In the same way Livingston was. Reliable production, vet presence with the second unit, better than okay shooting, elite at the line...from a quality system.


Livingston was a much better defender and passer than Mills, and Mills shooting was worse than Wiggins last year (on the Warriors based on 3p% Mills would have been 9th best, but with more attempts than most above him).

The Spurs are my local team, and Mills was never special but he was good, but he's not really anymore.

I like Mills but he just doesn't really move the needle all that much.
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Post#1819 » by Mylie10 » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:41 pm

Arlo wrote:I'd like me some Patty, but he's a steady, durable back up guard with a sweet 3pt stroke...he's making more than vet min.


Not so sure he gets over the minimum unless he stays in San Antonio. I think he would value winning over a sightly bigger deal anyhow. But I don’t know his personal financials, so I can’t say.

Hit I do feel strongly he’s prefer to go somewhere and win.
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Post#1820 » by Arlo » Mon Jul 5, 2021 1:20 am

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I've spent enough time with Aussie's to have heard the term :)

Nothing about Mills on the Warriors is "awesome" to me. He's an okay shooter who used to be an above average defender for someone his size who doesn't create much offense for others.


The kind of awesome we need...for sure. In the same way Livingston was. Reliable production, vet presence with the second unit, better than okay shooting, elite at the line...from a quality system.


Livingston was a much better defender and passer than Mills, and Mills shooting was worse than Wiggins last year (on the Warriors based on 3p% Mills would have been 9th best, but with more attempts than most above him).

The Spurs are my local team, and Mills was never special but he was good, but he's not really anymore.

I like Mills but he just doesn't really move the needle all that much.


Yes I didn't mean trait for trait...more good system fit, low fuss vet, reliable production. Let's go with Blur if you want a more similar comparison.

I think Wiggins spike in 3P% is simply a function of improved spacing and less contested long bombs, that he has mostly eradicated...praise the lord...

We might expect a similar spike from Mills, who has never played with anything like the space he might see here. Anyway, enough from me on Patty

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