Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

killmongrel · Post #1841 » by **killmongrel** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:19 pm

cpower wrote:
northoakland510 wrote:
killmongrel wrote:I would pay Wiggins, Wiseman, 7 for PG13. Not for Siakam.

I am not even doing that trade. I think Wiggins fits perfect next to Klay and Steph.

you have to think beyond that, with PG on this team Klay can take an easy RS while slowly getting back to form. Also the FA market will be so much better for us. Not to mention PG is a good 3P shooter, much needed by us.

I remember when PG was at his lowest value. I was so adamant about wanting to trade for him because I knew he'd fit great with Steph, Klay, and Draymond. Like you said, PG can be the second option on the team until Klay gets healthy. We've seen PG take over games as well. I like Wiggins. But PG is so clearly better.

While it would suck to give up on WIseman so early, I'd pull the trigger on a guy that is still early in his prime and one of the best 3&D guys in the league. Was a DPOY candidate a few years ago. And no offense, he's kind of had a resurgence with Kawhi out. I definitely believe Steph and Klay are the kind of guys he needs to play with.

Even though we lose the 7th pick, we still have the 14th pick in this scenario where we can take a ready now player like Wagner or take on a prospect. Or attach it with Oubre via sign and trade.

Steph/Sign And Trade Player/PG13/Draymond/Looney

Klay, Poole, MLE, JTA, Vet Center. Yeah, it would be worth it.

Mob Byers · Post #1842 » by **Mob Byers** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:25 pm

killmongrel wrote:Warriors are not trading those assets for Siakam. Zero chance. The FO is underwhelming, but they're not that stupid. It was just Hollinger throwing his name out there based on nothing but him speculating.

Honestly John probably got that info from here :lol:

killmongrel · Post #1843 » by **killmongrel** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:26 pm

Mob Byers wrote:
killmongrel wrote:Warriors are not trading those assets for Siakam. Zero chance. The FO is underwhelming, but they're not that stupid. It was just Hollinger throwing his name out there based on nothing but him speculating.

Honestly John probably got that info from here

xdrta+ · Post #1844 » by **xdrta+** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:27 pm

Do people really think the Clippers are getting rid of PG? Not a chance, come back to reality.

killmongrel · Post #1845 » by **killmongrel** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:28 pm

xdrta+ wrote:Do people really think the Clippers are getting rid of PG? Not a chance, come back to reality.

They're not. Just saying.

cpower · Post #1846 » by **cpower** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:39 pm

xdrta+ wrote:Do people really think the Clippers are getting rid of PG? Not a chance, come back to reality.

unless they are getting a better player in Dame? 8-)

Mob Byers · Post #1847 » by **Mob Byers** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:48 pm

xdrta+ wrote:Do people really think the Clippers are getting rid of PG? Not a chance, come back to reality.

Their would be a lot more eggs thrown at Balmer if that happened

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Upperclass · Post #1848 » by **Upperclass** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:57 pm

Man.. a 7+14+Wiseman+Wiggins+Paschal trade for Lillard might look very good to Portland..

Mob Byers · Post #1849 » by **Mob Byers** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:02 pm

Upperclass wrote:Man.. a 7+14+Wiseman+Wiggins+Paschal trade for Lillard might look very good to Portland..

northoakland510 · Post #1850 » by **northoakland510** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:39 am

Upperclass wrote:Man.. a 7+14+Wiseman+Wiggins+Paschal trade for Lillard might look very good to Portland..

How does that make the Warriors better?

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GSWFan1994 · Post #1851 » by **GSWFan1994** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:06 am

Did you notice how, out of a sudden, now everybody wants Wiseman + 7 + 14?

Just check it out what I saw in the GB...

Wiggins + Wiseman + 7 + 14
for
Myles Turner + Brogdon + Justin Holiday

Come on... stop with this!!

cdubbz · Post #1852 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:10 am

Doubt Orlando does this but:

Magic get: James Wiseman & 14

Warriors get: Cole Anthony & Mo Bamba

Magic would obviously was #7 to pair with their #5 but they can replace Cole with RJ Hampton. Magic would have Hampton, Wiseman, #5 & 14.

Warriors get Cole Anthony as backup point guard with Nico as 3rd string as well as a Center plus #7 pick

cdubbz · Post #1853 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 am

GSWFan1994 wrote:Did you notice how, out of a sudden, now everybody wants Wiseman + 7 + 14?

Just check it out what I saw in the GB...

Wiggins + Wiseman + 7 + 14
for
Myles Turner + Brogdon + Justin Holiday

Come on... stop with this!!

Warriors need to low ball. #7 stays but #14 can go

cdubbz · Post #1854 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:12 am

cdubbz wrote:Doubt Orlando does this but:

Magic get: James Wiseman & 14

Warriors get: Cole Anthony & Mo Bamba

Magic would obviously want #7 to pair with their #5 but they can replace Cole with RJ Hampton. Magic would have Hampton, Wiseman, #5 & 14.

Warriors get Cole Anthony as backup point guard with Nico as 3rd string as well as a Center plus #7 pick

GSWFan1994 · Post #1855 » by **GSWFan1994** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:14 am

This is horrible for us.

Wiseman > Bamba
14 > Anthony

Upperclass · Post #1856 » by **Upperclass** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:33 am

northoakland510 wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Man.. a 7+14+Wiseman+Wiggins+Paschal trade for Lillard might look very good to Portland..
How does that make the Warriors better?

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You'll have to see I suppose

canada_dry · Post #1857 » by **canada_dry** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:44 am

wco81 wrote:Siakam had major shoulder surgery.

He shot under 30% from 3 last season and is around 32% for his career. He rebounds better than Wiggins but gets fewer blocks or steals despite his length. He rebounds more than Wiggins.

Like the other guy, sorry for the intrusion lol. I come in peace i promise. Reading to get the temperature of the room the trade rumors.

I just wanted to add: Siakam is a much much much much much better defender than Wiggins (whos inproved defensively) especially when he doesn't have to be the #1 option of an offense. Blocks and steals dont always tell who the better defender is. Keep that in mind.

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canada_dry · Post #1858 » by **canada_dry** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:47 am

canada_dry wrote:
wco81 wrote:Siakam had major shoulder surgery.

He shot under 30% from 3 last season and is around 32% for his career. He rebounds better than Wiggins but gets fewer blocks or steals despite his length. He rebounds more than Wiggins.
Like the other guy, sorry for the intrusion lol. I come in peace i promise. Reading to get the temperature of the room the trade rumors.

I just wanted to add: Siakam is a much much much much much better defender than Wiggins (whos inproved defensively) especially when he doesn't have to be the #1 option of an offense. Blocks and steals dont always tell who the better defender is. Keep that in mind.

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Ok maybe that was 1 or 2 too many "much"s . Wiggins i give it up to him hes a better defender now. But Pascal is honestly all defensive levels when he can play as a #2 option. His blocks or steal stats dont tell the whole story.

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ILOVEIT · Post #1859 » by **ILOVEIT** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:13 pm

I thought trades between teams could not include two sign and trades for those two players?

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xdrta+ · Post #1860 » by **xdrta+** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:51 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:I thought trades between teams could not include two sign and trades for those two players?

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They don't seem to realize that the Warriors can't receive a player in a S&T, their team salary is too high, it's above the Apron. You would think they would look at those things before they put out something like that.