Free Agent Talk

[killmongrel]

Langston Galloway for the vet. minimum. Dude is trash or is he worth the vet. minimum?

By the way, I keep forgetting that we still have the Wannamaker TPE. Just slightly more than the vet. minimum.

I thought it was less.

I thought we paid him with part of the MLE?

[NeoWarriors]

Langston Galloway for the vet. minimum. Dude is trash or is he worth the vet. minimum?

By the way, I keep forgetting that we still have the Wannamaker TPE. Just slightly more than the vet. minimum.

I thought it was less.

I thought we paid him with part of the MLE?

Brad Wanamakers trade exception is $2,250,000 And we also have Marquis Chris's trade exception which is $1,824,003.

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[killmongrel]

I thought it was less.

I thought we paid him with part of the MLE?

Brad Wanamakers trade exception is $2,250,000 And we also have Marquis Chris's trade exception which is $1,824,003.

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Thank you.

[Mylie10]

I thought it was less.

I thought we paid him with part of the MLE?

Brad Wanamakers trade exception is $2,250,000 And we also have Marquis Chris's trade exception which is $1,824,003.

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What’s the minimum amount? And also the vet minimum amount?

[NeoWarriors]

I thought we paid him with part of the MLE?

Brad Wanamakers trade exception is $2,250,000 And we also have Marquis Chris's trade exception which is $1,824,003.

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What’s the minimum amount? And also the vet minimum amount?

It looks like the minimum salary is $925K and the vet minimum starts at $1.489 for 1 year experience up to $2.642 for 10+ years.

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[killmongrel]

Brad Wanamakers trade exception is $2,250,000 And we also have Marquis Chris's trade exception which is $1,824,003.

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What’s the minimum amount? And also the vet minimum amount?

It looks like the minimum salary is $925K and the vet minimum starts at $1.489 for 1 year experience up to $2.642 for 10+ years.

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So Wannamaker's actually just the vet minimum that we can offer anybody? I had thought that since we used part of the MLE, when we traded him for the TPE, it was just a little more than that. My bad.

[killmongrel]

What do you think Lacob and Myers know that we don't? They seem confident when talking about signing vets in FA.

[NeoWarriors]

What’s the minimum amount? And also the vet minimum amount?

It looks like the minimum salary is $925K and the vet minimum starts at $1.489 for 1 year experience up to $2.642 for 10+ years.

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So Wannamaker's actually just the vet minimum that we can offer anybody? I had thought that since we used part of the MLE, when we traded him for the TPE, it was just a little more than that. My bad.

Yes and no. Wanamaker was a 2-year pro so we could have only offered him 1.62 last year.

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[NeoWarriors]

What do you think Lacob and Myers know that we don't? They seem confident when talking about signing vets in FA.

Oh definitely. Every year when free agency starts players are signed the very minute it's open. That means it's all been negotiated and ready to go.

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[killmongrel]

It looks like the minimum salary is $925K and the vet minimum starts at $1.489 for 1 year experience up to $2.642 for 10+ years.

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So Wannamaker's actually just the vet minimum that we can offer anybody? I had thought that since we used part of the MLE, when we traded him for the TPE, it was just a little more than that. My bad.

Yes and no. Wanamaker was a 2-year pro so we could have only offered him 1.62 last year.

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I see.

One more question, when it comes to vet minimums, I thought I read something along the lines that the league pays a portion of it? Did I misread something? And if that's true, does the portion that the league pays for, gets included in the luxury tax? Or does a team still pay the full minimum.

[killmongrel]

What do you think Lacob and Myers know that we don't? They seem confident when talking about signing vets in FA.

Oh definitely. Every year when free agency starts players are signed the very minute it's open. That means it's all been negotiated and ready to go.

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Interesting. It's just weird to see them so confident about FA whereas the years before they were so ho-hum about it. That's why I'm thinking, "Woah, what are these dudes thinking of doing?".

Watch us get Finals champion Jeff Teague.

[Badly Browned]

So Wannamaker's actually just the vet minimum that we can offer anybody? I had thought that since we used part of the MLE, when we traded him for the TPE, it was just a little more than that. My bad.

Yes and no. Wanamaker was a 2-year pro so we could have only offered him 1.62 last year.

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I see.

One more question, when it comes to vet minimums, I thought I read something along the lines that the league pays a portion of it? Did I misread something? And if that's true, does the portion that the league pays for, gets included in the luxury tax? Or does a team still pay the full minimum.

Veteran minimum depends on service time, but for lux tax purposes the max is like $1.7m, and I think the part of subsidizing is for money that is above that $1.7m mark.

[killmongrel]

Yes and no. Wanamaker was a 2-year pro so we could have only offered him 1.62 last year.

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I see.

One more question, when it comes to vet minimums, I thought I read something along the lines that the league pays a portion of it? Did I misread something? And if that's true, does the portion that the league pays for, gets included in the luxury tax? Or does a team still pay the full minimum.

Veteran minimum depends on service time, but for lux tax purposes the max is like $1.7m, and I think the part of subsidizing is for money that is above that $1.7m mark.

Thanks.

[NeoWarriors]

So Wannamaker's actually just the vet minimum that we can offer anybody? I had thought that since we used part of the MLE, when we traded him for the TPE, it was just a little more than that. My bad.

Yes and no. Wanamaker was a 2-year pro so we could have only offered him 1.62 last year.

Edit: Also, it has to be at least a third year vet and only a one year contract.

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I see.

One more question, when it comes to vet minimums, I thought I read something along the lines that the league pays a portion of it? Did I misread something? And if that's true, does the portion that the league pays for, gets included in the luxury tax? Or does a team still pay the full minimum.

This is true. They pay the $925 k of whatever the vet minimum is. If it's a 10+ year veteran he would get paid $2,642,000 but the team would only be on the hook for $1,717,000.

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[NeoWarriors]

Cory Joseph was just waved by Detroit.

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[Scoots1994]

need a cap expert to weigh in, but IIRC Batum's contract for next year doesn't make him any money unless it's more than the Hornets have agreed to pay him, so short of $10M the money really doesn't matter for him. Still I think he likes the Clippers, and with Kawhi missing time he'll get more run not less.

Cory Joseph just became available ... don't think he's got much left.

[ChuckDurn]

What do you think Lacob and Myers know that we don't? They seem confident when talking about signing vets in FA.

Oh definitely. Every year when free agency starts players are signed the very minute it's open. That means it's all been negotiated and ready to go.

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I had a conversation some time ago with a former NBA GM who was still working in the front office for a team, and I asked him about this specific thing. You know, how can guys agree to contracts with new teams 2 minutes after the start of free agency, when they supposedly couldn’t talk to the teams before then…..

He basically laughed and said something along the lines of “everybody’s always talking, there’s just a pact that everybody keeps it quiet and isn’t ‘too obvious’ about it.” It pretty much confirmed my suspicions.

So my guess is that the Warriors already have a pretty good idea of who they’re going to get, and that explains the confidence.

[xdrta+]

need a cap expert to weigh in, but IIRC Batum's contract for next year doesn't make him any money unless it's more than the Hornets have agreed to pay him, so short of $10M the money really doesn't matter for him. Still I think he likes the Clippers, and with Kawhi missing time he'll get more run not less.

Cory Joseph just became available ... don't think he's got much left.

The rules for stretching salary and set-offs (the amount deducted from what the original team pays) are a little complicated, but the one that matters in this case is that set-offs only apply during the original term of the contract. Since Batum's original contract ended in 20-21, there's no set-off for 21-22. He'll get paid the $9M from Charlotte and everything else is gravy. He signed for the minimum last year because the set-off applied.

[azwfan]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

[RichmondWarrior]

We probably talked to Iggy coming back being a player/mentor to the younger guys. Maybe Draymond is talking to McGee about coming back. Like many others have said Batum would be great to have off the bench.

I’m wonder if owners pay some of these guys under the table that take cheap 1 year deals to chase a championship?